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E-cigarettes: no smoke without ire
The Guardian ^ | January 5, 2013 | Lionel Shriver

Posted on 01/09/2013 7:06:47 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084

I've long been a decorative smoker. One daily roll-up hasn't imperilled my health much, and it's rescued me from the ranks of the self-righteous. I've relished the dash of badness, but my indulgence has come at a price: complicity. My more heavily addicted husband has smoked from the age of 19. So long as I join him in the odd postprandial drag, I'm a bad influence.

Last month I switched to an e-cig. I'm a convert. Sleek, black, and easily confused with a fine-point felt-tip, this newfangled "nicotine delivery system" is dead cool. The gently warm vapour ingeniously replicates the reflective pause of a real fag, the same quiet little buzz. But it doesn't stink up your breath, cover surfaces with ash, turn the air acrid, stain your fingers, brown your teeth, reduce bone mass of the jaw, promote gum disease, or – wait for the drum roll – cause cancer. Nor does an e-cig give anyone in your vicinity cancer.

Why, then, are so many nonsmokers queasy, nay denunciatory, about electronic fags? Why did the EU's tobacco product directive released last month propose effectively banning any e-cigs that deliver remotely enough nicotine to make them an attractive alternative to tobacco? Isn't a "tobacco product directive" reaching beyond its remit by seeking to regulate a product containing no tobacco? Why is the sale of a device that administers a mild stimulant about as energising as a cup of coffee already illegal in Denmark, Belgium and Norway? Why do some airlines specifically ban e-cigs, which don't foul the air on planes?

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: antitobaccoscam; blu; bluecigs; bullystate; ecigarettes; ecigs; pufflist; scam
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To: cripplecreek
Make me. I just fired up a homemade cigarette made out of pipe tobacco. Regular cigarette tobacco is weak, and for children. ;)

I'm also drinking beer, mostly nekked, except for a hair tie and a smile, and filling the bathtub with hot water so I can soak and enjoy on a rainy afternoon.

That should wad their panties right up.

This is the day the Lord has made. Rejoice, and be glad in it.

/johnny

21 posted on 01/09/2013 7:34:01 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

LOL

Edgar Friendly, isat you?


22 posted on 01/09/2013 7:36:54 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Marcella

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.


23 posted on 01/09/2013 7:37:40 PM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: Eric Blair 2084
Answers to the above questions can be found here...

The Phony Tobacco War
24 posted on 01/09/2013 7:37:46 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Eric Blair 2084
Is it possible that liberals are ...

...mentally ill?


25 posted on 01/09/2013 7:38:49 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Throw a couple more Firestone tires on the fire while you are up?


26 posted on 01/09/2013 7:41:29 PM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: SpaceBar

It’s a very lucrative racket. Much like global warming. Lots of cash and gubmint grants to pay for the villa in Aspen and the lease on the Mercedes Benz E550.

All paid for by some honest guy who works in a factory somewhere who just wants to have a beer and a cigarette in a bar with his friends after work.

Can’t have that. He wouldn’t be coerced to quit using the gums and patches that Big Pharma sells to the smoker quit lines.


27 posted on 01/09/2013 7:44:07 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer to drink a bunch of them. Stay thirsty my FRiends)
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To: Eric Blair 2084
“What side? Lol. I’m on the side of freedom. I quit smoking 3 years ago with ecigs. I still love the smell of smoke and hang outside with my former smoking buddies just to get a whiff.”

Wasn't going to waste my words on someone who posted and ran. Since you are here:

I am of both worlds. I smoke real cigarettes when I am in my house and anyone who comes in and doesn't like it, can leave.

I use “blu” e cigarettes when in someone’s car or a restaurant. When my son is here, I use the e cigarette when we are in my car because the smoke bothers him physically.

I tried another e cigarette first and it was impossible as either the tip or the battery was out, hard to get both working at the same time. “blu” is different. The tips are use and throw away, nothing to re-fill. There is a nice box that has a rechargeable battery in it that charges a battery when you are using another one. When that one dies, get the one the box has charged and put the one just out in there and it recharges so it travels well. You always have a charged battery.

So, I use both and the blu works very well.

28 posted on 01/09/2013 7:46:07 PM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084
“What side? Lol. I’m on the side of freedom. I quit smoking 3 years ago with ecigs. I still love the smell of smoke and hang outside with my former smoking buddies just to get a whiff.”

Wasn't going to waste my words on someone who posted and ran. Since you are here:

I am of both worlds. I smoke real cigarettes when I am in my house and anyone who comes in and doesn't like it, can leave.

I use “blu” e cigarettes when in someone’s car or a restaurant. When my son is here, I use the e cigarette when we are in my car because the smoke bothers him physically.

I tried another e cigarette first and it was impossible as either the tip or the battery was out, hard to get both working at the same time. “blu” is different. The tips are use and throw away, nothing to re-fill. There is a nice box that has a rechargeable battery in it that charges a battery when you are using another one. When that one dies, get the one the box has charged and put the one just out in there and it recharges so it travels well. You always have a charged battery.

So, I use both and the blu works very well.

29 posted on 01/09/2013 7:46:07 PM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: cripplecreek
I had to google that reference. I'm more of a 16th to 19th century kind of reader. (technical and military, some art and poetry)

I did ping the daughter to ask her if she has the movie and would she be kind enough to share it if she does.

I was very busy for 20 years and missed out on pop culture. From what I see of today's pop culture... I didn't miss much.

/johnny

30 posted on 01/09/2013 7:48:47 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

That’s strange - only hit post once.


31 posted on 01/09/2013 7:51:17 PM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Thanks for the ping!


32 posted on 01/09/2013 7:51:24 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Marcella

I was of both worlds for the first week. It is interesting how it doesn’t work for everyone.

The technology was still in the Commodore 64 stage. I dealt with crappy batteries, clogged atomizers.

Now it is in the Apple II stage.


33 posted on 01/09/2013 7:53:13 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer to drink a bunch of them. Stay thirsty my FRiends)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Actually I think you might enjoy the movie Demolition Man. Its a liberal dream come true with disastrous results.

You see, according to Cocteau's plan, I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think; I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech and freedom of choice. I'm the kind of guy who likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecued ribs with the side order of gravy fries?" I WANT high cholesterol. I wanna eat bacon and butter and BUCKETS of cheese, okay? I want to smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section. I want to run through the streets naked with green Jell-o all over my body reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly might feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiener".

-Edgar Friendly
34 posted on 01/09/2013 7:55:34 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: TigersEye

In this case, leftists and statists just have their typical reaction....Ban, ban ban. Laws laws laws. Ask questions later.

NY public serpent legislators banned UFC and ultimate fighting when they first heard of it. Just because.

Then they calmed down and stopped emoting and thought. Now it is at MSG.


35 posted on 01/09/2013 8:03:34 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer to drink a bunch of them. Stay thirsty my FRiends)
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To: SpaceBar; Gabz

I read that whole thing. Thanks.

FWIW, I only heard about this piece from reading Dr. Siegels blog.

http://tobaccoanalysis.blogspot.com/2013/01/sometimes-it-takes-novelist-to.html?m=1

He’s great. Gabz will disagree.:-)


36 posted on 01/09/2013 8:12:46 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer to drink a bunch of them. Stay thirsty my FRiends)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Bttt.


37 posted on 01/09/2013 8:13:15 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (My greatest fear is that when I'm gone my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them)
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To: cripplecreek
LOL! That guy might be a cousin... But I can hang with that attitude.

I'm not so good with lime jello, but the rest has a certain appeal.

/johnny

38 posted on 01/09/2013 8:18:42 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

How does it compare cost wise with regular smokes?


39 posted on 01/09/2013 8:37:51 PM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Superciliousness is the essence of Obama)
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To: IBIAFR

Billions of dollars. That is the big shoe to drop. Gubmints will have to admit the truth.


40 posted on 01/09/2013 8:43:52 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer to drink a bunch of them. Stay thirsty my FRiends)
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