Skip to comments.SCHOOL NURSE REVEALS THE CHILLING DETAILS FROM CT SHOOTING:
Posted on 01/09/2013 7:23:16 PM PST by Uncle Chip
Sally Cox: " The popping kept going off. And I just dove underneath my computer desk.... I could see his feet and his legs from the knees down... his feet were facing in my direction. And I just froze with fear. And then ... he turned around and I could hear him walk out.
I heard the door close and then I just heard popping starting all over again. And then the secretary, she was down behind my desk and we pulled the phone off the desk and she called 911. ... she said, ... please send help right away. We have a shooter in the building.
And then we just wanted to get out of there. And then we just ran into my big supply closet We pulled that door closed. So we were behind two locked doors. And we could just hear the popping continue. And we heard screams. Theres nothing we could do. You know? It was just a helpless, horrible feeling....like a nightmare .... you just think its a bad dream.
After some time, I think it was about 11:15, so we had been in that closet for about an hour and a half, I opened the door and I peeked out, cause my office has a lot of windows and looks into the courtyard. And I just saw what looked like maybe SWAT people but I didnt know, you know, who they were. I didnt know if there were other shooters.
And it wasnt until 1:15 when I somebody was jiggling the door. And but nobody called out. So I decided to be brave enough and open that door into the office and a lot of state police officers were there at that point. And they were very surprised to see me."
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How different things might have turned out had she had a weapon in the bottom drawer of her desk -- or on a shelf in that closet that she retreated to.
Not sure I could sit there in fear while hearing 5 year olds get shot and killed. Don’t know what I could do, but definitely couldn’t sit there and live with myself.
>>How different things might have turned out had she had a weapon in the bottom drawer of her desk — or on a shelf in that closet that she retreated to.<<
I agree with the sentiment but very few people have the wherewithal to possess a CCW and follow-up on it.
Let’s face it: most people aren’t comfortable with guns and even less so with having them on their their person. Mrs. FD is a great Conservative but I still can’t get her to the gun range, much less CCW classes.
Saw it the first time around and I’ve seen nothing that contravenes my opinion then: this nurse ignored a responsibility to the injured staff and students when the shooting stopped. She chose to continue to cower in the closet.
I know it’s a hard opinion but I just can’t see how any medical professional could ignore the potential to save lives.
The shooter had 10+ minutes of unopposed shooting of innocents before armed police entered the building. He saw them and quickly killed himself as he wanted to die, not be captured.
The type of firearm, magazine capacity and bullets used were not the problem, the problem was a gun free zone and no good person on site capable of stopping him. He could have killed just as many in those 10+ minutes with two old Colt style revolvers and a pocket full of bullets. He was the monster, not the weapons.
My thoughts as well.
I don’t believe anything she says. She was the one who said Mrs. Lanza was the most wonderful kindergarten teacher a kid could have. Her earlier interviews she was by herself in the closet but now she’s in the closet with the secretary. The police had already given their presser with the numbers before SWAT found them in the closet?? So, she’s saying SWAT didn’t bother searching the front offices for another bad guy for 4 hours? I - don’t - think - so.
I share that opinion. I doubt she would have been useful anyway, school nurses don’t do much but determine that you should be sent home (with condoms, of course).
Yea, very little passes the smell test. Where’s the first responder interviews, security video, or photos of the dead shooter, or even the blown out front window where he entered the bldg?
..Cox had been in the office roughly four hours by the time she left. When she was escorted from the building, officers told her to shut her eyes to spare her the sight of the students and teachers she once cared for.
I agree. But instead of figuring out what was wrong about him, they will focus on the hardware he used.
Where did she say this??? She didn't say that on the interviews that I have seen.
“And we heard screams. Theres nothing we could do. You know? It was just a helpless, horrible feeling...”
You could not make a better argument for gun ownership.
AMOK by John Russell
Merry saw how the thing was done one steamy hot day at Palembang, and he saw quite stark and plain. He had a first balcony seat to the performance, as you might say, for he was leaning from a raised and shaded veranda on the river street when it happened just below him. Also, by some chance or other, he was almost completely sober at the time. And this is the thing the sobered Merry saw:
From a doorway just across sprang suddenly out and down to the muddy level a little stout-shouldered half-naked Malay with a face mottled and bluish, with foam on his lip a creese in his hand. Forthright he drove into the crowd like a reaper into standing grain. His blade rose and fell in a crimson flicker, and he strode over the bodies of two victims before the people were aware of him and fled streaming through alleys and bolt holes. Then the terrible hoarse cry of the man hunt began to muster, and furious swart figures to start back out of the mass and to line the course with bright points of steel. The murderer neither paused nor turned aside, but held straight on, hewing steadily and silently, until the weapons bristled thick about him and he went down at last like a malignant slug under a tumble of stinging wasps.
Merry resumed breathing with a conscious effort and loosed his clutch of the balcony rail....
“Whatwas that?” he wanted to know.
A stolid and rather shabby client of the Dutch marine persuasion drew stolidly on a cheroot and[Pg 309] craned over to count the huddled bundles that marked the madman’s path.
“Oh, it iss nothing,” observed this judicious person, who might have been mate, or such, of a country ship. “He got four only. Sometimes they kill eighttwelveeven more, till they get themselves killed. That fellow was just a common fellow.”
“But whywhat was he after?”
“Oh, it iss just going amok, you know. That iss a habit wit’ the Malay folk. I have seen them often.”
Still Mr. Merry desired light.
“How can I say?” returned the other. “A native iss always a native, except when he iss only a man an’ a dam’ fool. Perhaps his woman has gone bad on him or he has played his last copper doit at gambling. Maybe he has crazied himself wit’ opium or bhang. Maybe he iss just come to a finish, you know?”
“A finish?” stammered Merry.
“Where he has no more use: where he gets sorry wit’ the world an’ wants to die quick. So he takes his knife an’ runs amok to stab so many people as he can, an’ he don’t care a dam’ if only he makes a big smash. It is like a sport, truly.”
What about the vaunted lock down programs in these school? From reports the outside doors are locked and apparently the shooter shot out the front door. This should have given time for someone to sound an alarm and lock all doors and call 911. I have a feeling that school lock down procedures are bureaucratic exercises that have never been tested in a realistic scenario. When I was a kid school fire drills were a joke. They were often announced in advance and when the alarm sounded we just walked out the door. No effort was made to use alternate escape routes or to instruct kids to crouch down to avoid inhaling the toxic smoke. Could school lock down procedures and drills be just as phony?
Ohhh - I believe what this nurse says because it is not particularly flattering to her as a nurse who could have helped as a first responder.
She painfully tells this story about her hunkering down in a closet [with no cell phone btw] while her charges are dying in the room next to her. And she stays in there 4 hours after the shooting stops.
There is video of her being escorted from the school 4 hours after everyone else.
‘Popping’ doesn’t sound like an AR-15 going off. More like a .22 pistol.
I totally agree, I could not save my skin while the kids I am supposed to be taking care of are getting slaughtered. What on earth is wrong with this person.
Good thing she was in a “gun-free” zone!
All doors were locked automatically at 9:15.
At 9:30 the front glass was shot out. The school office is right there as you come in the front door so as the principal walked out of her office she would have been face to face with Lanza. At about that time 911 calls were made.
3-5 minutes after the first 911 call came in the police were on the scene and the shooting ended.
At 9:40 police and SWAT teams can be seen from news copters already swarming around the building.
It started and ended in a mere 5 minutes.
The only thing that would have helped is if someone had had a weapon and kept him pinned down and busy for those 5 minutes until the police arrived.
you know, that was my first thought too... as a nurse, isn’t she vtrained in first aid to help people?
when she sat there cowering in a closet, feeling so helpless did she wish she had a gun of her own? or that someone else on premises did?
The secretary she mentions needs to also come forward and collaborate her story. A possibility, however unlikely, is she could have played a part in the massacre - just sayin' it needs investigating.
Further, "There is video of her being escorted from the school 4 hours after everyone else.."
Four hours sounds a little long, especially after she claims being brave enough to go peak out a window.
A nurse would have strong urgings to go to aid of her charges ASAP, after immediate danger to her personal being subsided.
Oh, you'll find all that with the information and pictures regarding the murder of bin Laden.
They can't focus on what was wrong about him because it will undermine their entire philosophy going all the way back to The Community Mental Health Act of 1963 (CMHA). Instead, they let the mentally ill roam at will within the general population with no regard to the myriad problems that result.
When I have time I must look up a recent article that said either Obama's Dept of Just Us or NY State decided to discontinue a certain class of group homes for mentally ill patients because those homes required that the patients stay on their meds. WTF???
> “She chose to continue to cower in the closet.” <<
That’s what lefties do. - The only time they’re bold is when stealing your money or your rights.
Gun control is entirely ineffective in preventing another such incident; the steps being taken in New York are almost certain to ENSURE another such incident. With the re-election of Obama we have truly put the lunatics in charge of the asylum called the United States of America.
>> “Popping doesnt sound like an AR-15 going off. More like a .22 pistol” <<
No kidding. My head hurts for hours after shooting the .357, even with the muffs.
I don’t know anyone that would describe it as a “pop.”
“It started and ended in a mere 5 minutes.”
From the CNN Website:
Police and other first responders arrived on scene about 20 minutes after the first calls.
Police report that no law enforcement officers discharged their weapons at any point.
The gunman took his own life, police said. He took out a handgun and shot himself in a classroom as law enforcement officers approached, officials said.
Did an officer actually see this, or is this just another bit of false information being disseminated? Let's see video identifing officers, describing exactly what they encountered when they entered the building.
When seconds count, police are only minutes away.
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Wiki has the first shot at 9:35 and the last one at 9:46-49 — 11 to 14 minutes. Police were dispatched to the school at 9:35.
News copter video shows police swarming the building at 9:40.
I’m not sure who to believe on the timeline, or whether the police immediately entered the school or staged outside for several minutes, but here is an alternate view of the timeline from what you have, that shows about 10 - 11 minutes from first call to engage from PD:
9:30:00 AM: Classes begin at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut.
9:35:53 AM: First known dispatch call - 911 Dispatch: “Sandy Hook School, Caller’s indicated she thinks someone is shooting in the building.”
9:36:15 AM: Shooting continues - Dispatch: “The individual I have on the phone is continuing to hear what he believes to be gun shots.”
9:38:10 AM: Pause in shooting - “The shooting appears to have stopped. The school is in lock down.”
9:38:50 AM: Police call for SWAT team - “We’ll stage up the SWAT and go from there.”
9:40:30 AM: Reports of shots fired - “Shooter’s apparently still shooting in office area. Dickerson Drive.”
9:40:55 AM: Connecticut State Police receive call and begin sending emergency units from western part of the state - “Troop 8 personnel, take Exit 10, left on 34, turn on Riverside Drive. Make sure you have your vests on.”
9:43:45 AM: Female confirmed shot - Dispatch: “We have one female in Room 1 who has gunshot wound to the foot.”
~9:45 AM: First responders/SWAT team arrive - begin an “active shooter search, checking every door, crack and crevice.”
9:46:20 AM: Another report of person shot - Dispatch: “We’ve got an injured person in Room 9 with numerous gunshot wounds.”
9:49:05 AM: Shooting finally stops approximately around 9:46 AM - “Negative on description. Shots were fired about three minutes ago.”
9:53:25 AM: Suspect reported down - “Newtown’s reporting one suspect down. The Building has now been cleared.”
9:55:25 AM: Weapons report - “Be advised, we have multiple weapons. One rifle and a shotgun.”
9:57:25 AM: Police notice to officers responding to call in plain clothes - “Any plain clothes responding, make sure you have you raid gear on, your raid gear on.”
10:00:15 AM: Police complete search for any other potential suspects - “Ask the custodian, get a team up on the roof and clear the roof.”
I just cant see how any medical professional could ignore the potential to save lives.
School Nurses don’t want any trouble....that’s why they are there. They don’t make any money but then they don’t really have to do anything....usually. That day was different and she failed. Which is why she was a school Nurse to begin with.
Okay I found it:
Note who is saying all this stuff that turns out to not be true: the bimbo reporter with Channel 9 News [in the LL Bean jacket] — not the nurse.
In extreme stress, it can indeed pop rather than boom. On the range it might still be deafening. Likewise, a shooter running a 12 gauge recoil might feel like a 22. Stress of places like that reduces what you take in.
Likewise, the 357 that beats you up on the range will barely be noticed when you are shooting it for keeps. Kinda cool really. Works that way for many many people.
9:55:25 AM: Weapons report - Be advised, we have multiple weapons. One rifle and a shotgun.
I thought the SAME THING. If they had the shooter down, and he was using the rifle and wearing two pistols...why didn’t they mention the pistols? Also, I thought it took them a while (don’t know how long) before they discovered the shotgun in the car. WEIRD
I am SO glad I had that talk with the teachers at the schools where my Sons go when school started this week.
Informing them that I will be volunteering to guard on my days off.
Needless to say, they were extremely grateful.
(And I know I’m not alone in this duty)
Not to mention the shot up cars in the parking area.
Actually almost all of this shooting doesn’t pass the smell test.
I’m starting to believe even who they say the shooter was is a lie.
Fathers who look like actors preparing for a role.
Not one single teacher or kid who saw dead bodies because they were to told close their eyes.
Websites collecting money for dead victims showing start-up dates a day earlier than the shootings.
Way too much here not making any sense. My husband mentioned something interesting when I brought up how I was feeling...
The public hasn’t actually SEEN ANYTHING to prove anything the media is saying. All we know or believe is what the media has told us.
In every mass shooting there is at least one eye witness who got away. One person who was shot but survived.
Someone.. anyone who can be interviewed.
So we are supposed to believe that this kid had clean kills of everyone who laid eyes on him that day.
I don’t care who calls me crazy,,, I don’t believe what happened that day is in any way shape or form what they are telling us happened.
Let's not sell school nurses short. They also demonstrate how to put a condom on a banana.
But isn't that how liberals feel all the time? Always utterly helpless, always wanting someone else to take care of every situation for them. And making sure they stay that way by avoiding and morally condemning any behavior that would make them able to cope without Big Nanny when push comes to shove.
She could have spent the time, instead of hiding and quaking, plotting a way to sneak behind the shooter and crash a desk over his head. Open a bag of marbles and strew them on his next logical pathway to make him fall down. Anything.
Lot of versions to swallow.
Don’t judge all school nurses by this one. There are many conservative and Constitution-loving school nurses; we are Veterans, moms and dads who would not be cowering in a closet. School nursing is a specialty that combines emergency, educational and public health skills; looks easy until SHTF.
the S did HTF and she was useless.
Another SH hoaxter....by 1:00 pm there were masses of Swat Rats and CT LE’s walking around w/o a care in the world. The whole episode @ SH appears fraudulent. WAKE THE H-— UP!
It’s always possible that a crazy kid could shoot his own mother in the face, but it doesn’t seem likely. I agree with you on the clean kills, a 100% record sounds a little too professional. OTOH, I have not yet read any contradictory reports.