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YOUTUBE: Penn & Teller on the 2nd Amendment
YOUTUBE ^ | 1-2013

Posted on 01/09/2013 8:59:29 PM PST by doug from upland

SUCCINCT AND THEY NAIL IT


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; guncontrol; guns; secondamendment

1 posted on 01/09/2013 8:59:37 PM PST by doug from upland
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To: doug from upland

Interesting. I am not a fan of theirs, but they make a good point here.


2 posted on 01/09/2013 9:11:06 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: doug from upland

There is a series done by Penn & Teller on the 2A, three, I believe, in the series and they are on Youtube. Well done and to the point. Try this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhXOuuHcjbs

MOLON LABE


3 posted on 01/09/2013 9:12:23 PM PST by chulaivn66 (Semper Fidelis in Extremis)
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To: BenLurkin

How can you not be a fan of a guy who names his daughter “Moxie Crimefighter Jillette”?

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4 posted on 01/09/2013 9:13:56 PM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools we will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

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5 posted on 01/09/2013 9:19:36 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: doug from upland
Actually they make two errors:

1) the Revolutionary war was not fought for two years (granted, minor error, unrelated to the rest of their points).

2) "well regulated militia" does not refer to a "military" to defend the country.

6 posted on 01/09/2013 9:26:15 PM PST by Michael.SF. (Obama lied, Stevens died.)
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To: doug from upland

Thanks for finding this !!!! Did you get our Hilary e-mail?


7 posted on 01/09/2013 9:38:09 PM PST by Dagny Taggart
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To: doug from upland

I am a proud owner of one of their metal Bill of Rights, bought at their show in Vegas. Several parts of their Vegas show must make libs fume!


8 posted on 01/09/2013 9:42:00 PM PST by Moonmad27 ("I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way." Jessica Rabbit)
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To: Michael.SF.

The founders were clear that by militia they meant all of the people capable of bearing arms. The constitution has many instances of an explanatory clause followed by a declarative clause. The explanatory clause outlines the need and the declarative clause gives the power or restriction.

To promote the arts and sciences, the exclusive right to the writing or discovery is granted for a limited time. Congress does not have the power to do anything that would promote the arts and science, they have the power to grant patents for that purpose.


9 posted on 01/09/2013 9:44:45 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: doug from upland

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhXOuuHcjbs


10 posted on 01/09/2013 9:44:59 PM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: doug from upland

Thanks, DFU, keep watching over and over and still keep laughing.


11 posted on 01/09/2013 9:45:26 PM PST by Hoosier-Daddy ( "It is not our job to protect the people from the consequences of their political choices.")
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To: Michael.SF.

The founders were clear that by militia they meant all of the people capable of bearing arms. The constitution has many instances of an explanatory clause followed by a declarative clause. The explanatory clause outlines the need and the declarative clause gives the power or restriction.

To promote the arts and sciences, the exclusive right to the writing or discovery is granted for a limited time. Congress does not have the power to do anything that would promote the arts and science, they have the power to grant patents for that purpose.


12 posted on 01/09/2013 9:45:46 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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13 posted on 01/09/2013 9:46:22 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Dagny Taggart

I got probably 200 emails today, many of which were duplicates, and most of which were spam. I don’t remember seeing one with the subject Hillary email.


14 posted on 01/09/2013 9:47:07 PM PST by doug from upland (Obama and the leftists - destroying our country one day at a time)
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To: Michael.SF.
well regulated militia" does not refer to a "military" to defend the country.

thank you! i noticed it too... that is a common error...

15 posted on 01/09/2013 9:55:14 PM PST by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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To: doug from upland

Well - how many of them were from us ?


16 posted on 01/09/2013 10:35:39 PM PST by Dagny Taggart
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To: allmendream

Great post on #2.

Q: how many bullets are needed to defend the life of yourself, family, friends, and neighbors?

A: as many as it takes.

Q: how much is that?

A: as many as it takes.


17 posted on 01/09/2013 10:36:38 PM PST by Morris70
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To: Michael.SF.

Depends on when you define the start of the war. Some will place it not at Lexington or Concord, but rather in 1774 when, the colonists rejected parlimentary rule and formed the First Continental Congress. If you want to base it simply on the use of force, British troops were already killing politically active colonists in 1770.


18 posted on 01/09/2013 10:57:44 PM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Michael.SF.

The militia were under the command of Washington in the Revolutionary War, so Penn is not completely incorrect in referring to the militia as military in that context.


19 posted on 01/09/2013 11:07:04 PM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: doug from upland

bump


20 posted on 01/09/2013 11:57:32 PM PST by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: Michael.SF.
militia  

mi·li·tia [mi-lish-uh]
noun

1. a body of citizens enrolled for military service, and called out periodically for drill but serving full time only in emergencies.

2. a body of citizen soldiers as distinguished from professional soldiers.

3. all able-bodied males considered by law eligible for military service.

Origin: 1580–90; < Latin mīlitia soldiery, equivalent to mīlit- (stem of mīles ) soldier + -ia -ia

No, he was right. A militia is a type of military.

21 posted on 01/10/2013 12:05:10 AM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: doug from upland

22 posted on 01/10/2013 1:21:03 AM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: TigersEye
The use of the term "militia" in the Federalist papers was used to mean a separate and distinct group from the military. Penn and Teller, equated the two without a distinction between them.

This was an error on their part, though I agree with them on this issue. Here is a source for usage of the term as intended by the founding fathers.

23 posted on 01/10/2013 5:29:33 AM PST by Michael.SF. (Obama lied, Stevens died.)
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BFL


24 posted on 01/10/2013 6:55:41 AM PST by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: Dagny Taggart

Several


25 posted on 01/10/2013 7:28:18 AM PST by doug from upland (Obama and the leftists - destroying our country one day at a time)
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To: Moonmad27
We went to one of their shows in Vegas because we liked their show on Cable. It was a very lame magic show, we were disgusted.
26 posted on 01/10/2013 7:33:50 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Michael.SF.
Penn and Teller, equated the two without a distinction between them.

No, Penn just called a militia an "organized military force" which is exactly what it is.

27 posted on 01/10/2013 1:31:51 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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