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Registration Will Lead to Confiscation
The Blaze ^ | January 9, 2013 | Brian Lilley

Posted on 01/10/2013 10:37:19 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

According to The Washington Post, the Obama administration is considering a “national database” of all firearms in the United States to “track the movement and sale of weapons.” If such a database comes to fruition the database will lead to confiscation.

Last year Canada ended its national long gun registry, a national database of every rifle and shotgun in the country that was supposed to help police track the movement of and sale of weapons. When it was introduced twenty years ago critics said the registration of firearms would eventually lead to confiscation, a criticism dismissed as ridiculous, yet that’s what happened and more right up until its dismantling.

As recently as last winter law abiding gun owners who had complied with the registry were having their rifles confiscated. In late 2011 hundreds if not thousands of people who had legally purchased the Armi Jager AP80, a .22 calibre variant of the AK47, were informed that their rifles had been deemed illegal and must be surrendered .

“You are required by law to return your firearm registration certificates, without delay, either by mail to the address shown in the top left corner of this page or in person to a peace officer or firearms officers. You have 30 days to deliver your firearms to a peace officer, firearms officer of Chief Firearms Officer or to otherwise lawfully dispose of them,” read the letter sent by the Canadian Firearms Centre.

The reason for the need to surrender what had been legal firearms was simply cosmetic, the AP 80 looked too similar to the AK47. There were no interchangeable parts between the two rifles, the rifles used vastly different ammunition, had vastly different uses but they looked the same.

What was more worrisome was that the decision to reclassify what for years had been a legal rifle was made by a bureaucrat not by elected officials. There was no debate, no vote just a decision by a bureaucrat who felt the AP80, legally owned for decades, was too dangerous to be privately owned by Canadians.

Of course confiscation of firearms could just be the start, confiscation of homes and cars could also come to the USA.

Former Marine Joshua Boston recently wrote a scathing response to Senator Diane Feinstein’s gun control proposals saying that he would not register his guns. That could cost him everything.

Bruce Montague, a gunsmith from Dryden, Ontario faces the possibility of having his home seized for failure to register his firearms. Montague’s decision not to register was purely political, he wanted to challenge the constitutionality of the gun registry. When his constitutional challenge failed and Montague was convicted the government of Ontario moved to seize his home under its proceeds of crime legislation. They were treating a paperwork criminal as if he were a drug lord, the kind of person the law was intended to prosecute.

If the United States follows Canada’s lead in registering all guns into a national database then the confiscation of rifles and shotguns won’t be far behind.

Brian Lilley is the host of Byline on Sun News Network


TOPICS: Canada; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; bigbrother; confiscation; database; guncontrol; gunregistry; obama; registration; rkba
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1 posted on 01/10/2013 10:37:30 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: bang_list

BANG!


2 posted on 01/10/2013 10:40:17 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Happy New Year!)
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To: 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; AliVeritas; alisasny; ALlRightAllTheTime; ...

PING!


3 posted on 01/10/2013 10:41:29 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Happy New Year!)
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PING!


4 posted on 01/10/2013 10:42:04 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Happy New Year!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I’m not going to “Register” shit with the Federal Government, period. They are going to have to confiscate all the seller-held Forms 4473 first and then sift through to see what I have. And, by that time, they will have been sold. Sold to a private citizen whose Identification I inspected but did not record. All I’ll have is a signed bill of sale with a date. All legal.


5 posted on 01/10/2013 10:43:53 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Please let all of your ,or any active military friends and family know that can have a FREE one-year membership to NRA.

NRA offers troops free one-year membership

By Karen Jowers - Staff writer
Posted : Tuesday Aug 14, 2007 17:07:55 EDT

Active-duty military personnel are eligible for a free one-year membership in the National Rifle Association.

A one-year membership typically costs $35. This offer will run indefinitely, said Zach Price, workplace giving coordinator for the NRA Office of Advancement. It is also open to Guard and Reserve members who have been called to active duty.

Service members can sign up for the free year’s membership online.

Benefits of membership include a subscription to an NRA magazine, $5,000 worth of accidental death and dismemberment coverage, and $1,000 of ArmsCare coverage for firearms, air guns, bows and arrows against theft, accidental loss and damage, as well as other benefits.

“NRA wants to emphasize the partnership between itself and the military,” Price said. “There’s a lot of overlap with the military in shooting sports, training classes, and a lot of present NRA members are current or former military.” The NRA’s ties with the military reach back to 1871 when the association was founded by two Union army veterans.

“We want to give a big thank-you to our active-duty troops,” Price said.

As with all similar association memberships, he said, members are asked if they want to renew at the end of their membership, as paid members.

http://nralifeofduty.tv/#/home

http://www.armytimes.com/news/2007/08/military_nra_070814w/


6 posted on 01/10/2013 10:44:05 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Any such law would be illegal under one of the provisions signed into law under “Obamacare”.


7 posted on 01/10/2013 10:45:51 AM PST by TheRhinelander
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Thirty years ago the AP 80 was selling in Shotgun News for peanuts. Looked kinda AK fakey.

In Canuckistan owning one now makes you a dangerous psycho.

Went to Ottawa last year. It’s a foreign country, everything is in French, & their money looks like Slobbovian pezoozas. No need to travel, Americans, you’re already here.


8 posted on 01/10/2013 10:49:10 AM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Police raid home of mourning husband to confiscate his deceased wife’s pain killers.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865569894/Drug-search-shattered-tender-moment-with-deceased-wife-Vernal-man-says.html?pg=all

Make me wonder if they’ll do this with guns also...


9 posted on 01/10/2013 10:51:29 AM PST by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Obama cannot do this by executive order. This would require legislation through Congress.

While I do not doubt the radical left and the tyrant Obama want this, I don’t see this happening.


10 posted on 01/10/2013 10:53:02 AM PST by Obadiah (It is when a people forget God, that tyrants forge their chains.)
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To: TheRhinelander

As I understand it, that provision forbids the government from using doctors to find out about gun ownership. I don’t think it forbids a database.


11 posted on 01/10/2013 10:57:14 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Happy New Year!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

then I will become a criminal.... heh it wont be the first time I have walked the fine edge of the law.


12 posted on 01/10/2013 10:59:11 AM PST by SouthernBoyupNorth ("For my wings are made of Tungsten, my flesh of glass and steel..........")
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To: Obadiah

That assumes that we have a congress that would stop him.

We don’t.


13 posted on 01/10/2013 11:02:45 AM PST by LegendHasIt
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

You bet’chya!


14 posted on 01/10/2013 11:05:23 AM PST by onedoug
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; Clive; exg; Alberta's Child; albertabound; AntiKev; backhoe; ...
To all- please ping me to Canadian topics.

Canada Ping!

15 posted on 01/10/2013 11:06:38 AM PST by Squawk 8888 (True North- Strong Leader, Strong Dollar, Strong and Free!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Actually you’re right. My answer for such a thing will be:

“Sorry sir, I lost that rifle in a boating accident a couple of months ago. You’re more than welcome to search the house for it as long as you have a warrant but I can assure you it’s not here. Not happy about it, that rifle cost me a lot of money, sir.”

In the meantime I’m going to be stocking up on Marlin model 60s. They fly under the ban radar and you’ld be amazed at what one can do with ..2 LR hollow points.


16 posted on 01/10/2013 11:09:07 AM PST by TheRhinelander
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To: Obadiah; All

“Obama cannot do this by executive order. This would require legislation through Congress.”

You mean he cannot *legally* do this.

That has not stopped him before. Attorney General Eric Holder refuses to prosecute Black people for voter intimidation. President Obama declares amnesty of illegal residents by executive order. He declares the Senate in recess when it isn’t, so he can appoint who he wants.

The MSM applaud him as a great leader. They want ACTION! on gun control.

Gun Registration is Gun Confiscation:

http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2012/12/gun-registration-is-gun-confiscation.html


17 posted on 01/10/2013 11:09:07 AM PST by marktwain
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The thugs in control of the American Sate will not stop because they have acted so far with impunity. There have been no negative consequences to their dismantling of this Constitutional Republic. They act with neither conscience nor fear.

It is up to us to deliver those consequences. No one else will.


18 posted on 01/10/2013 11:10:11 AM PST by Noumenon (One individual with courage, determination and a rifle can change the course of history.)
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19 posted on 01/10/2013 11:12:19 AM PST by Iron Munro (I Miss America, don't you?)
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20 posted on 01/10/2013 11:14:23 AM PST by RetSignman ("A Republic if you can keep it"....)
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