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Senate Balks at Promoting Officer Who Downed F-4
Military.com ^ | 1.1.13 | Rowan Scarborough

Posted on 01/10/2013 11:25:21 AM PST by QT3.14

A Senate committee has refused to approve a promotion to admiral for a Navy officer who, as a young fighter pilot during a training mission, deliberately shot down an Air Force plane whose flier has suffered a life of pain from his forced ejection.

The Senate Armed Services Committee took no confirmation vote on the nomination of Capt. Tiimothy W. Dorsey as the 112th Congress ended.

Because the Senate did not act, the nomination goes back to the White House. The Navy has the option of trying to resubmit his nomination during the 113t Congress, which convened Thursday.

(Excerpt) Read more at military.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: 112th; bho44; cicobama; military; navy; promotion; timothydorsey; usn

1 posted on 01/10/2013 11:25:31 AM PST by QT3.14
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To: QT3.14

How did he get promoted to O-6?


2 posted on 01/10/2013 11:28:45 AM PST by EEGator
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To: QT3.14
Say what!!! How the hell did he make Captain?

The incident should have been a career ender. Just ask any skipper that 'accidentally' hit another ship or ran aground - here we have INTENTIONALLY shot down an aircraft!

Another example of dummbing-down our military, or who his daddy was at the time?

3 posted on 01/10/2013 11:28:51 AM PST by QT3.14 ( USA: Likely only country in world history to adopt policies and laws that ensure self-destruction)
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To: QT3.14

Holder’s People, or Mohammed’s?


4 posted on 01/10/2013 11:32:31 AM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: QT3.14

5 posted on 01/10/2013 11:32:59 AM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: EEGator
The dork in question:

Capt. Timothy Dorsey

relavant paragraph:

"At the time, his father, James Dorsey, commanded the carrier USS America. He later attained three-star rank as a vice admiral.

6 posted on 01/10/2013 11:33:09 AM PST by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: QT3.14
Euthanasia is legal in the military service? Who knew?
7 posted on 01/10/2013 11:33:21 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: Mr. K

Hey, it worked for McCain.


8 posted on 01/10/2013 11:34:15 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: QT3.14

“Capt. Dorsey’s father, James Dorsey, was at the time of the incident commander of the carrier USS America and an aviator. A year later, he became assistant deputy chief of naval operations at the Pentagon and later attained three-star vice admiral rank.”


9 posted on 01/10/2013 11:35:28 AM PST by EEGator
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To: QT3.14
this guy has a$$hole written all over him

"Fished out of the water and taken to the Saratoga, Ross waited for an apology from Dorsey. It did not come until last year, when the former Air Force pilot received a note from Dorsey as his nomination was pending in the Senate Armed Services Committee."

If Obama wants to promote him he might be a libtard he wants to put in charge of further destroying the military

10 posted on 01/10/2013 11:35:53 AM PST by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: QT3.14

This guy should have been court-martialed and sent to jail after shooting down the other plane was found to have been deliberate.

Buried in the article is the explanation of why he wasn’t: “At the time, his father, James Dorsey, commanded the carrier USS America. He later attained three-star rank as a vice admiral.”

Reminds me of McCain. He was known as “Ace McCain” because the managed to lose five of his own planes during the course of his career, and at least four of those appear to have been his own carelessness and incompetence. Yet he continued to be promoted and work his way up to nomination for POTUS. Why? Because his father was an Admiral, and then he married money.


11 posted on 01/10/2013 11:36:03 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: EEGator

How you ask? He is the son of a Navy admiral, an admiral who was I believe 2nd in command of the fleet when this happened. To quote Animal House, “He’s a legacy...” like John McCain, with all of the rights and privileges of family inheritance of titles. Unlike any of the rest of us, he was not courts martialed but was sent to the active reserves and promoted in accordance with his “legacy”. A perfect example of “who you know and who you blow”, or who you are related to. After all, the AF crew didn’t die, did they.


12 posted on 01/10/2013 11:38:49 AM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Mr. K

I’m sure Captain Dorsey has the respect of those under his command. /s


13 posted on 01/10/2013 11:39:29 AM PST by EEGator
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To: QT3.14

Shame he didn’t have McCain’s daddy.


14 posted on 01/10/2013 11:39:37 AM PST by LadyBuck (Strangeways, here we come....)
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To: QT3.14
A Navy Pilot irresponsibly shoots down a friendly and is allowed to not just stay in the service but to achieve flag rank???

Oh, Daddy was a carrier captain...well then there you go.

15 posted on 01/10/2013 11:40:20 AM PST by Happy Rain ("Banning guns over Adam Lanza would be like banning speech over Bill Maher.")
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To: QT3.14

Hey. it’s not like he did something career-ending, like screw a married woman or make fun of homosexuals or be insensitive to terrorist suspects

sarc


16 posted on 01/10/2013 11:41:06 AM PST by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: QT3.14
I read about that guy back then. Wonder if he did a 'Victory Roll'. Should have been canned then. But because of his dad, he's had a nice cushy career.

My dad was a retired LCDR. Never got me anything during my time in the Marines.

17 posted on 01/10/2013 11:44:40 AM PST by real saxophonist (I show my friends my 1911. I show my enemies my Glock.)
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To: QT3.14; BIGLOOK

“Say what!!! How the hell did he make Captain?
The incident should have been a career ender. Just ask any skipper that ‘accidentally’ hit another ship or ran aground - here we have INTENTIONALLY shot down an aircraft!

Another example of dummbing-down our military, or who his daddy was at the time?”

His Daddy was a 3 star Admiral, when this jerkoff got his first kill, an USAF plane.

http://www.militarycorruption.com/timdorsey.htm

EXCLUSIVE

“UNDUE COMMAND INFLUENCE” FROM PILOT’S
REAR ADMIRAL FATHER SAVED NECK OF THEN
LTJG TIMOTHY DORSEY AFTER FIGHTER JOCK
SHOT DOWN AIR FORCE RECON PLANE, NEARLY
KILLING TWO-MAN CREW ABOARD - “IF DORSEY’S
DADDY WASN’T A BIG SHOT, SONNY BOY WOULD
HAVE BEEN KICKED OUT OF NAVY,” SOURCE SAYS

© 2012 MilitaryCorruption.com

We’ve all heard the old saying about the military: “Screw up and move up.” Well, a Naval Reserve captain who shot down an American plane in 1987, nearly killing the two crewmen aboard, may be promoted to flag rank soon. Go figure.

Well-connected Capt. Timothy W. Dorsey is one of Obama’s picks to be an admiral in the Navy. It figures. Dorsey’s always had help from folks in high places. Like his daddy, retired three-star Admiral James Dorsey, the former skipper of the aircraft carrier USS America.

The senior Dorsey was a naval aviator, and his son had followed in his father’s footsteps.

SHOT DOWN THE PLANE

It was some 25 years ago, that then-LTJG Tim Dorsey committed the ultimate foul-up. During a training exercise, against orders, the headstrong young pilot fired a missile at an Air Force recon plane and blew it out of the sky. It was a miracle that both crewmen survived.

One would think a stunt like that would have gotten Dorsey busted and sent to he fleet as a swabbie. No such luck. Because he was Admiral Dorsey’s boy, nothing, and we mean just that, nothing adverse happened to the doofus.

Now, a loyal reader of Military Corruption.com (we get up to six million hits a month, worldwide) has tipped us - and you - the real story why young Dorsey escaped any punishment at all.

“I’ve seen lots of Navy officers lose their careers over some small stuff,” a retired Navy commander told us, “but this guy Dorsey, we remember he was so arrogant he didn’t even express regret he’d destroyed an expensive U.S. aircraft and nearly cost both the pilot and co-pilot (they parachuted to safety) their lives in the process.”

“It was the old man (Adm. James Dorsey) that got sonny boy off, our well-informed source said. “for anyone else that (shooting down a friendly aircraft) would have been a definite career ender. But for Dorsey’s son, that junior officer got a free pass, even though an investigation showed him clearly at fault.”

An IG probe expressed the view that young Dorsey “lacked good judgment” and cast doubt upon the Saratoga pilot’s ability to fly. Yet the “brass hat” sibling got off without even a slap on the wrist.

Today, the 48 year-old Dorsey is general counsel for USA Discounters in Virginia Beach, Va. and is a four-striper in the Naval Reserve. That this man could rise to flag rank - “like father, like son” - shows it’s not what you do, it’s who you know and who cares about you. Justice and equal treatment under the law have nothing to do with this.


18 posted on 01/10/2013 11:52:14 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Tagline space for rent to pay for some of my extra taxes the next 4 years!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Euthanasia is legal in the military service? Who knew?

The AF pilot' s back problems were caused by this idiot' s firing of the missile.
19 posted on 01/10/2013 11:55:47 AM PST by Signalman
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Hey, it worked for McCain.

My first thoughts was about McQueeg. I think McCain is a reverse Ace who either crashed or got shot down totalling at least 5 times during his career.

20 posted on 01/10/2013 11:57:28 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

At least Queeg was sick.


21 posted on 01/10/2013 12:04:03 PM PST by onedoug
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To: Signalman

Then whoever wrote that story needs to take remedial English.


22 posted on 01/10/2013 12:04:14 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: QT3.14

Ummm, isn’t deliberately shooting down an friendly aircraft “attempted murder?” Why wasn’t he sent for a long stay in prison?


23 posted on 01/10/2013 12:21:54 PM PST by Little Ray (Waiting for the return of the Gods of the Copybook Headings.)
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To: QT3.14

A dastardly man after Obama’s own heart.


24 posted on 01/10/2013 12:24:32 PM PST by righttackle44 (Take scalps. Leave the bodies as a warning.)
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To: righttackle44

That this is being discussed at all is an embarrassment. He should have been put on trial for murder in the first degree as it had to have been premeditated.


25 posted on 01/10/2013 12:48:12 PM PST by Yollopoliuhqui
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To: righttackle44

That this is being discussed at all is an embarrassment. He should have been put on trial for murder in the first degree as it had to have been premeditated.


26 posted on 01/10/2013 12:48:41 PM PST by Yollopoliuhqui
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To: EEGator
He seems like a male version of "The Sea Hag", Captain Holly Graff who has a similarly checkered history.

She was up for Admiral, don't know if she made it. Her daddy is and so is her sister.

27 posted on 01/10/2013 1:08:15 PM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Mr. K

He seems like the definitive loose cannon. I wonder what else he’s done that hasn’t made the news. The rot is deep.

Imagine how great our military would be if promotion were truly based on merit, not race, gender, orientation, or family or political connection.


28 posted on 01/10/2013 1:35:47 PM PST by OldNewYork
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Imagine how great our military would be if promotion were truly based on merit, not race, gender, orientation, or family or political connection.

Imagine how great our PLANET would be.

But instead, we have The Lodge.

29 posted on 01/10/2013 1:42:39 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: OldNewYork

Something must have attracted the Fraud to him....


30 posted on 01/10/2013 1:47:30 PM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: QT3.14

Didn’t mclame crash some F4’s in his career?


31 posted on 01/10/2013 1:51:43 PM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: RJS1950

Whoever covered for this idiot should be busted along with the idiot.


32 posted on 01/10/2013 2:04:10 PM PST by uncommonsense (Conservatives believe what they see; Liberals see what they believe.)
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To: hal ogen; Tijeras_Slim; Cicero; RJS1950; Red Steel; LadyBuck
Didn’t mclame crash some F4’s in his career?

And...I'm pretty sure it was the ordnance on McCain's A-4 that set the USS Forrestal ablaze.

FWIR of the documentary, the excuse given was that the expenditure rate of munitions was so rapid in Vietnam at the time, WWII-era stuff, aka "unstable". was being pressed into service.

The bomb or rocket that decided to spontaneously catch fire, eventually setting off a chain reaction of explosions, just happened to be on McCain's aircraft.

McCain escaped the escalating bonfire by climbing out over the nose and refueling probe.

33 posted on 01/10/2013 2:13:14 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: Happy Rain

Homicidal maniac makes admiral. Almost.

Obvious Obama material.


34 posted on 01/10/2013 3:48:15 PM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: Calvin Locke
The bomb or rocket that decided to spontaneously catch fire, eventually setting off a chain reaction of explosions, just happened to be on McCain's aircraft.

Oh please. A Zuni Rocket on an F-4 across the deck from McCain's plane fired because of an electrical fault and hit the A-4 next to McCain's plane, setting it on fire. McCain saw the fire and jumped out of his plane before the bombs in the fire starting going off.

McCain has ZERO responsibility for the Forrestal fire.

35 posted on 01/10/2013 4:40:14 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: Red Steel
I think McCain is a reverse Ace who either crashed or got shot down totalling at least 5 times during his career.

McCain crashed two aircraft - one was judged to be his fault, the other was an engine failure.

He was shot down over Vietnam, once.

His plane was destroyed on the Forrestal but of course that wasn't his fault.

There was one incident where he flew too low hitting power lines in Spain, but he landed safely.

So McCain crashed ONE aircraft where it was his fault.

36 posted on 01/10/2013 4:45:08 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: Strategerist

Funny how mayhem follows McQueeg. And you forgot one thing - McCain is still an idiot.


37 posted on 01/10/2013 4:55:03 PM PST by Red Steel
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