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Chicago police chief: WE'LL SHOOT LICENSED CIVILIANS WITH GUNS
LiveLeak ^ | January 10, 2013 | LiveLeak

Posted on 01/10/2013 5:11:01 PM PST by gwjack

Chicago’s illustrious Police Chief, Superintendent or SuperNintendo (whichever you wish to call him) got on a local radio station in Chicago and told it like he perceives it. He said that citizens licensed to carry could be, and indeed predicted they would be shot by Chicago Police Officers.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; ccw; chicago; chicagovalues; guncontrol; guns; illinois; lineinthesand; police; rahmunism; secondamendment; votefromtherooftops
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Unbelievable!!! To think that the police chief would say this in public. He should be "shamed" into resignation.

Gwjack

1 posted on 01/10/2013 5:11:13 PM PST by gwjack
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To: gwjack

He does work for - who? Yeah, tu tu wearing Raman Noodle Emanuel.


2 posted on 01/10/2013 5:14:36 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: gwjack

I consider in his city the U.S. Constitution is of little importance.


3 posted on 01/10/2013 5:15:03 PM PST by rovenstinez
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To: gwjack

I consider in his city the U.S. Constitution is of little importance.


4 posted on 01/10/2013 5:15:08 PM PST by rovenstinez
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To: gwjack

I dont think his city has to worry about licensed gun owners one whit


5 posted on 01/10/2013 5:15:58 PM PST by RaceBannon (When Chuck Norris goes to bed, he checks under it for Clint Eastwood!)
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To: gwjack

Why not, they shoot the unarmed, fellow officers and sometimes themselves.

I remember William Buckley saying something to the affect that police should be disarmed as they have demonstrated an inability to use them properly.

This is also interesting in the light of all the grief that Gen Mattis, USMC caught when he said it was a hoot to kill bad guys.


6 posted on 01/10/2013 5:16:10 PM PST by rey
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To: gwjack

For him simply to have said that is awfully close to a crime.

Let’s take the people of Chicago out of the way of danger and relieve this troubled man of his badge.


7 posted on 01/10/2013 5:16:38 PM PST by gaijin
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To: gwjack
"predicted they would be shot by Chicago Police Officers"

Pretty much proves what we at FR have known for a long time.. The police motto "to protect and serve" refers to our GOVERNMENT, not we citizens. It wasn't that way when I was a kid.

8 posted on 01/10/2013 5:16:45 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: gwjack

They’ve been practicing by shooting dogs.


9 posted on 01/10/2013 5:18:03 PM PST by JohnnyP
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To: gwjack

This city needs to be sterilized!


10 posted on 01/10/2013 5:18:13 PM PST by Renegade
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To: rovenstinez

The link to newsinblack contained in LiveLeak is more complete. It goes into the “training” that is received. I think refresher courses in Constitutional law is appropriate.

And to think that years ago I liked watching “Hill Street Blues.”

Gwjack


11 posted on 01/10/2013 5:18:54 PM PST by gwjack (May God give America His richest blessings.)
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To: gwjack
Things were better for self defense 140 years ago in several cities.


12 posted on 01/10/2013 5:19:01 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name! See new paintings!)
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To: gwjack

I have the perfect job for McCarthy.

He can come scrub my toilets.................at gunpoint, the asshole.


13 posted on 01/10/2013 5:20:01 PM PST by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: Renegade

So why hasn’t someone asked him, “if guns are illegal in his city, why were there 8 shootings on New Years Eve alone?” How many criminals would his police officers shoot?


14 posted on 01/10/2013 5:20:57 PM PST by Cyclone59 (Obama is like Ron Burgundy - he will read ANYTHING that is on the teleprompter)
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To: gwjack

He should be fired! Wow!


15 posted on 01/10/2013 5:21:19 PM PST by petitfour
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To: gwjack

So now the Police do not protect the populace,
but are there to exterminate them.

America is truly now a banana republic without Law.


16 posted on 01/10/2013 5:21:19 PM PST by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: gwjack
some people might take that as a threat, and act accordingly...
17 posted on 01/10/2013 5:25:37 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Diogenesis

So I guess if you shoot a cop in Chicago and you are licensed you have a self defense claim in court that would hold up.


18 posted on 01/10/2013 5:26:38 PM PST by jimpick
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To: gwjack

Shooting law abiding citizens is much easier than perusing and shooting criminals. The mayor begs gang bangers to just kill each other, not children. Now his police chief attacks peaceful citizens. This is a mental and moral depravity that is beyond belief. Yet it is completely in character for liberals.


19 posted on 01/10/2013 5:27:37 PM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: gwjack

It’s OK. He’s telling us the rules of engagement. In Illinois, whether you’re a criminal or an innocent civilian, you’re going to be better off shooting first and asking questions later. He’s actually endangering his own people. Irresponsible. Criminally irresponsible.


20 posted on 01/10/2013 5:27:54 PM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: gwjack

Somebody takes this psycho’s gun away now before he shoots his mother.

Damned. I thought we had stupid police chiefs in Philadelphia (since Rizzo), Baltimore since the early 60’s, and DC (since the beginning of time).

Chicago has now outscored them all on the “Dumb as Shit” meter.

The citizen has now become the police’s top shooting target while the gangbangers and Obama voters continue on with their deadly rampages almost unchallenged.

Rahm and Obama: “Yes you did” make Chicago the biggest shithole in America. Proud of yourselves, huh?

And crime victims, most of you voted for them!! Lesson learned yet, before someone kills you on your front porch?


21 posted on 01/10/2013 5:28:44 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: gwjack
Billy Badass talks tough about taking out law-abiding citizens while murder gangs and robbery mobs run wild in his city.

What a loser.

22 posted on 01/10/2013 5:31:23 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (So?)
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To: Red Steel

Police chiefs in big cities are essentially political appointees and cophouse politicians themselves. Rank and file officers usually ignore them and consider them dangerous because they never really have their backs.


23 posted on 01/10/2013 5:32:28 PM PST by allendale
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To: gwjack
I think this police chief got his badge from a Cracker Jack box.

He claims licensed civilians aren't trained well enough. Have you ever seen a news report about police shootouts where they tell you how many shots were fired...like 30 rounds expended for two hits?

We already know of a Georgia stay-at-home mom who hit an intruder with five out of six shots from a .38 revolver,I don't think many cops could match that.

Also my 73 year old eyes get a workout at the range at least once a month with my 1911,.357/.38 Special snubbie and a Ruger Vaquero in .45 Colt...although it is getting a little expensive...I'm considering re-loading.

My best groups are with my snubbie...a 2 1`/2 inch total titanium Taurus...3 inch groups at 25 yards...not too bad for an old fart like me!

24 posted on 01/10/2013 5:32:49 PM PST by oldsalt (There's no such thing as a free lunch.)
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To: gwjack
I’ll train our officers that there is a concealed carry law, but when somebody turns with a firearm in their hand the officer does not have an obligation to wait to get shot to return fire

It's already SOP.

Why do these media sources have to over dramatize?

25 posted on 01/10/2013 5:33:02 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: gwjack

I’ve tried to warn people over the many years that the cops will be easily turned into a Bolshevik militia with the principle mission of terrorizing the ordinary person into obedience.

Even today, you are more likely see cops focused on “law-abiding” people than criminals —largely because the law-abiding don’t shoot back.


26 posted on 01/10/2013 5:33:28 PM PST by PaleoBob
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To: gwjack
Chicago Police beat up unarmed women. Why wouldn't they shoot legally armed citizens?

Chicago Police Officer Attacks Female Bartender - YouTube video

27 posted on 01/10/2013 5:40:01 PM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: petitfour
He should be fired! Wow!

HA!
By whom?

Rahm Emanual???

28 posted on 01/10/2013 5:40:17 PM PST by grobdriver (Sic semper tyrannis!)
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To: gwjack

Completely believable. Liberals dream of the day when they can send their jack booted thugs in to confiscate firearms and murder anyone who resists.


29 posted on 01/10/2013 5:40:31 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The only thing that Hollywood gets right about guns is that criminals will always get them.)
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To: All

Don’t ever forget that the police don’t carry guns to protect you; they carry guns to protect themselves!

Shouldn’t we (the people) be able to protect ourselves? Of course!

That is why I qualified, and carry CCW licenses from 4 states. Oh, the licenses don’t give me protection; it is what they permit me to carry that protects me and others.

Gwjack


30 posted on 01/10/2013 5:42:00 PM PST by gwjack (May God give America His richest blessings.)
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To: All

Don’t ever forget that the police don’t carry guns to protect you; they carry guns to protect themselves!

Shouldn’t we (the people) be able to protect ourselves? Of course!

That is why I qualified, and carry CCW licenses from 4 states. Oh, the licenses don’t give me protection; it is what they permit me to carry that protects me and others.

Gwjack


31 posted on 01/10/2013 5:43:03 PM PST by gwjack (May God give America His richest blessings.)
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To: PaleoBob

“largely because the law-abiding don’t shoot back” I’m willing to bet that is quickly becoming no longer true.


32 posted on 01/10/2013 5:43:22 PM PST by OHPatriot (It's time to party like it's 1096 AD.)
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To: gwjack

could that be considered a declaration of war against gun owners?


33 posted on 01/10/2013 5:45:12 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: gwjack

This is the guy who was in church attacking Sarah Palin.

*McCarthy blasted the NRA, telling parishioners that their communities have paid the price while the gun manufacturers are getting “rich and living in gated communities.”

And he told an anecdote of just one night with the New York Police Department. After returning home from investigating a pair of shootings, he said he flipped on the television to relax, only to find “Sarah Palin’s Alaska” being broadcast.

“She was caribou hunting, and talking about the right to bear arms,” he said. “Why wasn’t she at the crime scene with me?”*


34 posted on 01/10/2013 5:46:28 PM PST by ansel12 (Cruz said "conservatives trust Sarah Palin that if she says this guy is a conservative, that he is")
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To: gwjack
Well. That was unexpected...
35 posted on 01/10/2013 5:51:02 PM PST by null and void (Soap box. Ballot box. Jury box. We're just two boxes away from freedom...)
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To: Diogenesis
So now the Police do not protect the populace,
but are there to exterminate them.

So it would appear.

36 posted on 01/10/2013 5:51:19 PM PST by null and void (Soap box. Ballot box. Jury box. We're just two boxes away from freedom...)
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To: gwjack

I’m going to say something that’ll piss off a few folks here but dead Chicago cops are a mixed blessing; shoot back civilians.

It’s the rotten 98% that give the other 2% a bad name.


37 posted on 01/10/2013 5:51:50 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

when I was a municipal police officer back in the 50’s, we were referred to as “peace officers” and keeping the peace was our job with six shooter revolvers and billy clubs. We had few problems.


38 posted on 01/10/2013 5:51:57 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: gwjack

to protect and serve, LOL. Actually, the way most cops shoot, I wouldn’t be too worried about this


39 posted on 01/10/2013 5:52:09 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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..."the officer does not have an obligation to wait to get shot to return fire."

In other words, corrupt Chicago cops have more reasonable 'rules of engagement' than our sons & daughters in Obama's wars in the Middle East.

Nice...

40 posted on 01/10/2013 5:52:09 PM PST by DJ Frisat ((optional, printed after my name on post))
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To: gwjack
Maybe this so-called "Police chief" will some day travel outside his "gun-free" Chitcago town?

Maybe he can venture around parts of the country that resist tyranny?

Maybe people in those parts can "re-educate" him on what liberty means.

Please, Mr. "Chitcago police chief", visit my area soon!

41 posted on 01/10/2013 5:52:36 PM PST by MountainDad (Support your local Militia)
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To: gwjack

I’m an LE Officer/former Marine, and I say this bonehead should be fired immediately. Fellow freepers broad brushing LE officers as if we are in agreement with the current assault on our common rights need to check yourselves. We are not the enemy... The political class is, and police chiefs are entirely political.


42 posted on 01/10/2013 5:53:22 PM PST by arielguard (Fasting without prayer is vainglory.)
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To: gwjack

It’s pretty obvious who has the loose nut behind the wheel.


43 posted on 01/10/2013 5:53:54 PM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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some freepers begged to put bammey back in office....this is on them...thx for nothing...

for as rino and moderate and big money and elitist Romney might have been, he wouldn't be destroying the constitution and allowing citizens to be threatened by hack police bullheads....

we are in very very dark times....I'd encouraged everyone to move to a safe state if you can....

44 posted on 01/10/2013 5:57:47 PM PST by cherry
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From “Second City Cop”, the *best* cop blog in Chitown:

“...Yet Rahm and McShitForBrains continue to push their belief that Illinois residents in general and Chicago denizens in particular, are completely incompetent when it comes to gun ownership. Let’s be real - how often do you think you’ll be running into an actual legally carrying citizen? Those aren’t the people that the police usually encounter. And if you aren’t treating every traffic stop as one where a gun might be on scene in any event, you’re not being the police.

“And not to denigrate the Department, but we’ll bet a sizable percentage of Illinois citizens not only know guns better than the police, they can outshoot them 60-to-70% of the time, 99% of the time if we’re talking long guns.

“Remember, McKillTheCitizens was documented to have been shooting out streetlights when he carried a gun in New York - is that really the sort of asshole who should be telling citizens they can’t have guns after a year of 500+ homicides, 2,500+ shootings and a January that is already 200% ahead of last years dismal showing?”

For more, go to:

http://secondcitycop.blogspot.com/

and scroll down to “McD*mb*ss Threatens to Shoot Citizens”

The comments section is itself extensive and enlightening.


45 posted on 01/10/2013 6:00:24 PM PST by Stosh
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To: rey
Why not, they shoot the unarmed, fellow officers and sometimes themselves.

It's a nondiscrimination policy.

46 posted on 01/10/2013 6:01:01 PM PST by Jeff Winston
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To: gwjack
Chicago police chief: WE'LL SHOOT LICENSED CIVILIANS WITH GUNS

The Chicago cops are worse criminals than than gang bangers, they just have better benefits.

47 posted on 01/10/2013 6:02:31 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: gwjack
I think he has opened himself up to criminal and civil charges if one of his cops does shoot a CCW-holder for carrying a gun.

He's basically ordered them to do so.

48 posted on 01/10/2013 6:03:26 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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To: OHPatriot

“largely because the law-abiding don’t shoot back” I’m willing to bet that is quickly becoming no longer true.


I imagine there are very few law-abiding citizens who, at this point, fear the cops. And many cops are still “in it” for all the right reasons.

But the upper echelons of big city/blue state police forces are easily co-opted by big labor and big political interests, which we all know are increasingly veering in a direction that could make the USA a Police State in due time.

I was on the premises during the years that the Left finished off the co-option of the Lamestream Media (1980s and 1990s), and the fact is the PDs will fall into lock-step with the governing orthodoxy even easier than the media did.


49 posted on 01/10/2013 6:03:26 PM PST by PaleoBob
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To: gwjack

THIS is why we don’t give up our guns to an oppressive, tyrannical govt in the making.


50 posted on 01/10/2013 6:03:43 PM PST by HeartlandOfAmerica (Get in touch with your galtitude!)
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