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Lopez: Limit size of ammo clips to stem gun violence
tucsonsentinel.com ^ | January 10, 2013 | Chloe Brooks

Posted on 01/10/2013 11:01:02 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe

A Democratic state senator called Thursday for Arizona to ban ammunition clips that hold more than 10 rounds, saying they enable rampages like the ones in Newtown, Conn., Aurora, Colo., and her hometown of Tucson.

“After Sandy Hook, we said that was enough,” Linda Lopez said. “Those 20 children who were killed there, that was the minority compared to the number of children who die every year because of gun violence.”

At a news conference, Lopez said she also will propose legislation to require background checks for all gun sales and to repeal a state law requiring law enforcement to sell confiscated guns to licensed dealers.

“This problem is multifaceted, but we do have to start somewhere,” she said.

Lopez said she was working on the bills, which have yet to be introduced, with the nonprofit Arizonans for Gun Safety.

That group’s founder, Geraldine Hills, urged lawmakers to look beyond issues of gun rights and gun control to better protect citizens.

“This is not and should not be a partisan issue,” Hills said.

Lopez’s proposal comes two years after Jared Lee Loughner used a 30-round clip to shoot U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and 18 others, six of whom died, at a Tucson-area Safeway supermarket. Loughner, who was later diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia, was sentenced to life in prison after pleading guilty in an agreement with prosecutors.

“We can’t just blame the mentally ill for this,” Lopez said.

Besides restricting the size of ammunition clips, Lopez said Arizona needs to require universal background checks for all gun purchasers. That would expand the requirement to include purchases at gun shows and from unlicensed parties.

Rep. Chad Campbell, D-Phoenix, the House minority leader, also proposed universal background checks Wednesday when he announced plans for bills to address gun violence.

Lopez also wants to repeal a 2012 law requiring law enforcement agencies to sell or auction weapons used in crimes to licensed gun dealers within one year of seizure.

A call to Mike Phillipsen, a spokesman for the Senate Republican majority, seeking comment on Lopez's plan wasn't returned by late Thursday afternoon.


TOPICS: US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: banglist; democrats; guncontrol; hicapmags; secondamendment

1 posted on 01/10/2013 11:01:04 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Morons who can’t be taught (or can’t learn) the distinction between clips and magazines and automatic vs. semi-automatic have no business legislating for the rest of us.


2 posted on 01/10/2013 11:04:03 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

The Swiss have got it CORRECT !
We need to learn from the Swiss and implement their "gun control measures" here in the United States right now, today!
The Swiss have got it CORRECT !
Remember: Read Second Amendment: It’s Not About Hunting, IT'S ABOUT TYRANNY .
3 posted on 01/10/2013 11:09:18 PM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: muir_redwoods

Arizona just elected a hardcore leftist/Communist Party sympathizer, Krysta Sinema, to Congress.

For her background, see “www.keywiki.org”, search under her name. She is in with some interesting people.


4 posted on 01/10/2013 11:21:04 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Have at it.

Limit clips all you want. In fact, I welcome the limitations on clips.

Do it...


5 posted on 01/10/2013 11:24:36 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Yosemitest

What’s the problem?

They want to limit the size of clips.

I for one welcome the limitation of clips.


6 posted on 01/10/2013 11:26:11 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Yosemitest

USSR (Stalin), China (Mao), Germany (Hitler), Cambodia (Pat), Iraq (Sadddam), etc all have one thing in common, civilians were stripped of firearms.

Every other dictatorship in the world (Iran, Venezuela, N.Korea, Pakistan, Cuba, Uganda, Italy, etc.) all have one thing in common, no civilians with firearms.

If people do not learn of actual history, they are doomed to repeat it.


7 posted on 01/10/2013 11:35:13 PM PST by entropy12 (The republic is doomed when people figure out they can get free stuff by voting democrats)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

this woman is a blithering idiot. i don’t know if you can fix idiot. you just have to oppose it as strongly as possible.


8 posted on 01/10/2013 11:36:14 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Better Yet let’s limit leftist to 10 in this country all the rest have to leave and we will give them a one way ticket to
Bogota!


9 posted on 01/10/2013 11:37:15 PM PST by tallyhoe
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To: Vendome
I don't !
Civilians should have all the tools to defend themselves the cops do.
Anyone who would limit magazine size should be sent to war with a single-shot rifle.
'Nuff said !
10 posted on 01/10/2013 11:44:43 PM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: entropy12

And may the liberals be the first to die !


11 posted on 01/10/2013 11:46:13 PM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

This is what happens when liberals escape California, they invaded AZ and are spreading their disease faster than a free Vegas hooker.


12 posted on 01/11/2013 12:03:40 AM PST by Eye of Unk (AR2 2013 is the American Revolution part 2 of 2013)
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To: Yosemitest
I don't ! Civilians should have all the tools to defend themselves the cops do. Anyone who would limit magazine size should be sent to war with a single-shot rifle.

Limiting "clip" capacity is really O.K. with me. The most common is the 8 round M1 clip so it already meets the "under ten" round capability espoused by the left. Just leave magazines out of the equation!

13 posted on 01/11/2013 12:07:38 AM PST by TexasRedeye (Eschew obfuscation.)
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To: TexasRedeye
26 plus years of military experience has taught me to love the 20 or 30 round magazine.
My practice with a quad 50 for a short fully auto 30 second burst was also exhilarating.
I love and own a Garand, but I also have an AR-10 that I respect just as much!
14 posted on 01/11/2013 12:17:58 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Linda Lopez said. “Those 20 children who were killed there, that was the minority compared to the number of children who die every year because of gun violence.”

The vast majority of which are killed with handguns that hold less than ten rounds, stupid.

15 posted on 01/11/2013 12:20:22 AM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Yosemitest

Save


16 posted on 01/11/2013 12:30:04 AM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
And if the rifle was limited to 10 rounds, only 20 children would have been killed.

I forget what talking head program I was watching and there was a liberal subject matter expert debating gun laws. The host asked this guy if he had ever shot a firearm - not did he own one - and he sheepishly admitted he's never fired a gun! Huh!!!??? How on God's green earth can someone reach the age of 60 in this country and not fire a gun? That seems impossible. He's probably an expert on conservation and has never baited a hook.

These are the morons who mandate how we live day to day and if we don't like it, they'll send their paid thugs over to break down the door, storm in and shoot the family dog, tase grandma, and straighten us out using whatever means necessary.

17 posted on 01/11/2013 12:48:26 AM PST by uncommonsense (Conservatives believe what they see; Liberals see what they believe.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

A Democratic state senator called Thursday for Arizona to ban ammunition clips that hold more than 10 rounds, saying they enable rampages like the ones in Newtown, Conn., Aurora, Colo., and her hometown of Tucson.

Nice when stupid people speak so that the rest of us can know for a fact that they are stupid.
So some evil demented person carrying 3-4-10 ten round clips is better then a evil demented person carrying 2 twenty round clips in what manner?? If you do not understand weapons you should maybe speak to someone that does before you make silly asinine comments on weapons.......


18 posted on 01/11/2013 1:46:50 AM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Linda Lopez is the moron who blamed the tea party and then a vet for the Arizona shootings.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2653526/posts


19 posted on 01/11/2013 2:55:59 AM PST by FreedomGuru (Without Life nothing else matters.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

These people have no clue how long it takes to change a magazine. And, if you are shooting children and passive adults trapped in a room, time is not a factor. You could use a muzzle loader and still end up killing 20 people. It just takes longer.

I was thinking it would be good to show them a video of a mag being changed, but then they would say, “OK, I see your point. Let’s ban everything then.”


20 posted on 01/11/2013 3:09:17 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
"Limit this, restrict that, ban the other thing ..."

Leftists are thoroughly predictable, and thoroughly useless.

How 'bout this, MIzzzzz Lopez: Lets' liberate teachers, administrators, staff, volunteer aides. Encourage them to bear arms for the defense of themselves and the precious children in their care.

If it saves even one life, Mizzzzzz Lopez, it's worth it.

21 posted on 01/11/2013 3:16:02 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

>> “After Sandy Hook, we said that was enough,” Linda Lopez said.

How many killed annually by illegals, drunks, psychotic mothers? Have you really had enough, Lopez?

Take your Leftwing agenda and figuratively shove it.


22 posted on 01/11/2013 3:17:12 AM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: SECURE AMERICA

Wait’ll he sees the rampages gun control triggers! (pardon the pun)


23 posted on 01/11/2013 3:41:35 AM PST by gotribe (obama = the Great Divider)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

HIGH CAPACITY MAGAZINE BAN for WHAT?


24 posted on 01/11/2013 3:55:39 AM PST by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: Yosemitest

Excellent post!


25 posted on 01/11/2013 4:00:29 AM PST by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: uncommonsense

It is possible never to have fired a gun. Some aren’t inclined that way; some consciously avoid it. I’ve only done so on I’d say less than ten occasions.


26 posted on 01/11/2013 4:23:28 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: Tailgunner Joe

If it wasn’t for government, these mentally ill people would be wandering the streets...


27 posted on 01/11/2013 4:43:34 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

28 posted on 01/11/2013 5:31:34 AM PST by ASA Vet (There are 10 kinds of people in the world. Those who understand binary, and those who don't.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

As an experiment I loaded 9 rounds into each of 6 magazines for my 9mm. I then inserted one in the handgun.

From the moment I racked in the first shell till I had shot all 6 magazines was under 90 seconds.

And I hit the target with every shot - near as I could tell as it was pretty tore up.


29 posted on 01/11/2013 5:45:23 AM PST by msrngtp2002 (Just my opinion.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

What retards elected this walking piece of ignorance?

Another democrat firearms expert here.
IGNORES reality.
Clips enable rampages?
If that’s the case then there would be multiple rampages every day in every gun store across the country.
Require background checks on all gun sales.
Legally bought a gun lately? Already a federal requirement.
“Look beyond issues of gun rights” Means take away rights to self defense. Bet she has armed security though.
Can’t just blame the mentally ill for this.
Hey babe, can you name a sane person who has gone on a killing spree? Did Charlie Manson use a evil gun?
And unlicensed parties. Ok so now we can’t sell our bought and paid for property to another person without goverment permission?
Ignorance combined with power is a dangerous thing.


30 posted on 01/11/2013 5:51:55 AM PST by Texas resident
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Liberal logic: A 16 year old has the right to kill her unborn baby, but I can’t defend my family with a 30 round magazine.


31 posted on 01/11/2013 5:54:13 AM PST by csmusaret (I will give Obama credit for one thing- he is living proof that familiarity breeds contempt.)
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To: Yosemitest
In reference to Swiss training, I agree that training is as important as the gun itself, if not more so. I was a very avid hunter for many years. I learned respect for guns and was trained in hunter safety. I taught all my children the same respect and safety. I was very narrow minded and could not completely understand the need for defensive type weapons. I had my shotguns and my deer rifles. Why would anyone want anything else.

My grown son got very interested in defensive weapons and shooting and invited me to a week long defensive weapon school. Wow. Changed my mind, changed my collection, and provided insight to a whole new world of why and how to use defensive tactics and weapons. I highly recommend training with defensive weapons to everyone I meet. Although I was raised in a military family, I was never enlisted.

32 posted on 01/11/2013 5:55:34 AM PST by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

This communist punk doesn’t belong in America. I vote that she get a seat on a tramp freighter going one-way to North Korea. It’s time for a discussion about stripping anti-Americans and America haters of citizenship. If they are actively advocating destruction of the Constitution, they’re gone. They’re engaged in treason. Bye-bye.


33 posted on 01/11/2013 6:48:44 AM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: ASA Vet

I currently use two different types of clips: 5-round clips for my 1903 Springfield, and 8-round clips for my M1 Garand.


34 posted on 01/11/2013 6:55:20 AM PST by 04-Bravo
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Linda Lopez’s Contemptible Hair-clips

A smile is something special,
A ribbon is something rare,
So I’ll be special and I’ll be rare with a smile and a ribbon in my hair.
To be a girl they notice,

Takes more than a fancy dress,
So I’ll be noticed because I’ll dress with a smile and a ribbon in my tresses...
The bigger my toothy grin is, the smaller my troubles grow
The louder I say I’m happy, the more I believe it’s so

So I’ll have that extra something,
Because I know what to wear.
So I’ll be special and I’ll be rare.
I’ll be something beyond compare.
I’ll be noticed because I’ll wear a smile and a ribbon in my hair


35 posted on 01/11/2013 7:33:00 AM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Yosemitest

They want to change the language and I’m for it.

They want to ban high capacity clips then so be it.

I’ll keep my high capacity magazines.

Frankly, I can’t jam bullets into my Garand or M1A using a clip.


36 posted on 01/11/2013 8:49:10 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: showme_the_Glory

Welcome to the “AWAKE” crowd.


37 posted on 01/11/2013 9:52:44 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Vendome
I understand your point, but I'm of the frame of mind that the ONLY law we should have about guns, is in the U.S. Constitution.
ANY OTHER LAW about guns, is an infringement upon our ability to "Keep and Bear Arms.
Anyone who would propose such a law, or support such a law, should be returned to DUST.

38 posted on 01/11/2013 10:04:53 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Right up there with Jocelyn “We need safer bullets” Elders for sheer stupidity.


39 posted on 01/11/2013 10:08:08 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Yosemitest

Absolutely. In fact, we have all the laws we need including the ability to restrict mental defectives and demonstrable nutsos from lawfully acquiring a cordless long distance drill.


40 posted on 01/11/2013 10:41:55 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: csmusaret
Liberal logic: A 16 year old has the right to kill her unborn baby, but I can’t defend my family with a 30 round magazine.

Just as our godless communist masters want it. All evil must be called good and all good must be called evil. You can't control a righteous God fearing people. You have to destroy all morality first.

41 posted on 01/11/2013 2:14:38 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Free goodies for all -- Freedom for none.)
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