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Obama to pay US debt with trillion-dollar coins?
Russia Today ^ | 1-4-2013

Posted on 01/11/2013 4:50:37 AM PST by Renfield

......As analyst Chris Krueger from Guggenheim Securities’ Washington Research Group explains to the American Enterprise Institute, “There are limits on how much paper money the U.S. can circulate and rules that govern coinage on gold, silver and copper. BUT, the Treasury has broad discretion on coins made from platinum.”

“Although the Treasury can't just create money out of thin air to pay its bills, there is a technicality in the law that says the Treasury has special discretion to create platinum coins of any denomination, and the thinking is that [Secretary of the Treasury] Tim Geithner could make the coin and walk it over to the Federal Reserve and deposit it in the Treasury's bank account,” adds Joe Weisenthal of Business Insider.

Although the idea seems outrageous, it’s been discussed repeatedly in the media since the start of 2013, and has even been brought up by an influential member of Congress....

(Excerpt) Read more at rt.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government
KEYWORDS: debt; fed; obama; treasury
Joseph Farrell comments at his site (www.gizadeathstar.com):

....Didn’t all those supposedly counterfeit bearer bond scandals involve gold-backed bearer bonds issued not by the US Treasury but by the Federal Reserve? Could there then be a relationship between this story and the facts (1) that several countries are now wanting to audit and/or repatriate their gold from London and New York (think GERMANY and BRAZIL here folks), (2) that it appears that the amounts of gold bullion have been massively obfuscated, (3) that it also appears that whatever bullion DOES exist, has been rehypothecated many times over (4) that many gold bars upon delivery have been filled with tungsten, (5) that the bearer bonds scandals represent a possible reality, rather than being mere counterfeits as the government (and some academics) keep reminding us?

Bottom line: I suspect there’s MUCH more going on with this story than meets the eye, but one thing we might conclude from this (crazy) idea: if it’s being talked about quietly but openly, then it is possible that a vast system of corruption is close to being exposed.

1 posted on 01/11/2013 4:50:45 AM PST by Renfield
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To: Renfield

If this coin idea is valid then we can just mint a coin of infinite value and live in exquisite luxury for eternity.


2 posted on 01/11/2013 5:00:53 AM PST by dmcnash (Back off! I'm a Scientist.)
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To: Renfield

I think the idea first came up on the Simpsons.


3 posted on 01/11/2013 5:08:05 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Renfield

“it’s been discussed repeatedly in the media since the start of 2013”

That’s the money phrase; perhaps with the idea that repetition begets legitimacy.


4 posted on 01/11/2013 5:08:12 AM PST by RangerM
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To: Renfield

—here’s another good one on the subject—last paragraph especially pertinent—

http://www.mineweb.com/mineweb/content/en/mineweb-political-economy?oid=169218&sn=Detail


5 posted on 01/11/2013 5:09:38 AM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: dmcnash

We can have the EU send us a 1T Euro coin, and we can send them a 1T dollar coin, and then we can all resume spending.


6 posted on 01/11/2013 5:10:07 AM PST by ltc8k6
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To: dmcnash

Or we could give the Chicoms the trillion-dollar coin as security and borrow on it.


7 posted on 01/11/2013 5:10:52 AM PST by luvbach1 (We are finished.)
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To: Renfield

No problem, I think the change in my pocket is going to be worth a trillion dollars in the near future.

http://historysshadow.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/zimbabwe-inflation.jpg


8 posted on 01/11/2013 5:12:48 AM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: dmcnash

Rumor has it they have minted several and lost one already. Keep an eye out fer it in your pocket change. They say it has a picture of Bigfoot on it.

I seen it on the History Channel.


9 posted on 01/11/2013 5:14:59 AM PST by Uncle Lonny
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To: luvbach1
Or we could give the Chicoms the trillion-dollar coin as security and borrow on it.

Why be so weak in our approach?

Send them the coin and tell them all is now "Paid in Full"!

As someone said the other day, they can also mint enough billion dollar coins for each family in America and immediately end all debt and all poverty. The markets will boom, taxes all be rescinded in favor of coin minting, and every American can hire illegals to perform "work".

But we can't let them have citizenship or they'll get their coin, too.

/sarc

10 posted on 01/11/2013 5:16:20 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Renfield
I'm told the "printing money" thing is actually a misnomer. They do not have the facilities to print the amount of paper money they are spending. It is all done with "zeros" added to accounts for increasing the number of dollars. It would be like you going to your bank account and, with a computer, add a few zeros after your balance. AND it should be just as illegal for the government as you!
My point is, they don't need a coin, that's just a cutesy gimmick the "low information voters" would understand. We are living in a scam no matter what color they try to paint it or what gimmick they use to explain it.
11 posted on 01/11/2013 5:17:30 AM PST by ThePatriotsFlag (...and to the Republic for which it STOOD...)
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To: Renfield

A trillion dolllar coin....with dear leaders face on it? Wow!

The Obama groat rammed down your throat?

Talk about massive deflation.

I ‘ll take poker chips from Vegas first, thank you.


12 posted on 01/11/2013 5:20:16 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Renfield

Bottom line: I suspect there’s MUCH more going on with this story than meets the eye, but one thing we might conclude from this (crazy) idea: if it’s being talked about quietly but openly, then it is possible that a vast system of corruption is close to being exposed. >>>>>>>>>>>>>

Actually, out t5hug politicians will create a war with countries like Brazil , Germany , who want their gold back.

Note that Iran repatriated all of its gold from Europe back in the early 2000, or late 1990s, if I remember correctly.


13 posted on 01/11/2013 5:23:04 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Renfield

Only problem is when they try to exchange it for real dollars.
Then what happens to the economy?
It damage would be less if we defaulted.


14 posted on 01/11/2013 5:24:17 AM PST by ed34222 (With those kinds of enemies the chamber must be doing something right.)
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To: Candor7

You can take your POKER CHIPS from Las Vegas, but I get all of the money in the MONOLOPY games...I’ll buy them up off of Ebay, at Goodwill and I’ll corner the market...and I’ll but up all of the trillion dollar coins!!!


15 posted on 01/11/2013 5:26:35 AM PST by rovenstinez
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To: Renfield

So, where would all the platinum for this coin come from?

Of course, they could just mint a dime-sized coin out of platinum and call it a trillion dollars.

The monetary system is all smoke and mirrors anyway.


16 posted on 01/11/2013 5:28:59 AM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: Renfield

At the current price, all the platinum ever mined is nowhere near $1 trillion. Therefore, this is nothing more than printing money to pay a debt. They might as well be honest about it and start printing $1 trillion bills. That anyone with (supposedly) more maturity and insight than a 5th grader is even talking about this is emblematic of the rot and stupidity of our political culture in this country. Hyperinflation, here we come!


17 posted on 01/11/2013 5:40:31 AM PST by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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To: Renfield

Sooo uhhh.. what happens when the person they paid with the coin wants to exchange it for cash?


18 posted on 01/11/2013 5:49:20 AM PST by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: Campion

They’ll simply issue a Platinum-CLAD tungston coin.

We’d never know the difference.

ABCCBSCNNNBCFOX/AP and at least half of America wouldn’t DARE question it.


19 posted on 01/11/2013 6:03:52 AM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: cableguymn

Sooo uhhh.. what happens when the person they paid with the coin wants to exchange it for cash?

No Problem:

http://historysshadow.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/zimbabwe-inflation.jpg


20 posted on 01/11/2013 6:37:21 AM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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