Skip to comments.Obama Muzzling Military Chaplains
Posted on 01/11/2013 7:34:26 AM PST by NKP_Vet
One of the items on Obamas second term agenda is to root out traditionally Christian chaplains from the military. He sees them as bigots unworthy of conscience protections. Like Chick-fil-A, they dont uphold Obamas values.
Obamas mouthpieces in the military have already blurted this out. In 2010, Admiral Michael Mullen told a Christian chaplain who opposed the repeal of the Dont Ask, Dont Tell policy that If you cannot get in line, resign your commission. That same year Lieutenant General Thomas P. Bostick, the Armys deputy chief of staff in charge of personnel, said military members who dissent from Obamas gay rights agenda should get out.
Unfortunately, we have a minority of service members who are still racists and bigoted and you will never be able to get rid of all of them, he said, as reported by the Washington Times. But these people opposing this new policy will need to get with the program, and if they cant, they need to get out.
Pentagon officials go through the motions of saying that military chaplains still enjoy religious freedom. But this claim grows ever more lawyerly and narrow. When Defense Department Counsel Jeh C. Johnson testified before Congress about the implications of the Dont Ask, Dont Tell policys collapse for religious freedom, he said that it would not affect what a chaplain said in the religious context. In other words, chaplains would be punished for objecting to Obamas gay rights agenda anywhere outside of a pulpit.
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Had a close friend (may he R.I.P) who was an Army Chaplain for many, many years. One of the best people I ever knew.
Some Republicans are standing Idly by-—Others are complicit.
All Democrats are complicit.
The Supreme Court under Roberts is complicit.
This is one of the slickest Coups ever perpetrated on Free People the world has ever seen.
The American public, while I generally hold them in very low regard, has no reasonable way of knowing what the Obama minions are up to.
The problem with re-electing a communist is that he has the ability to put so many subversives in so many places that it’s impossible to know what they’re subverting next.
And the media would never, ever tell.
But then, Romney would have done the same thing.
Look for more in the military to leave.
That is why more then ever, in turning to the alternate news media, such as conservative talk show hosts.
None of this is surprising. My husband was active duty air force for 13 years before he got out. I have seen this coming for some time. Catholic and conservative Christian chaplains will have no place in the near future in the armed forces. They will be replaced by “interdenominational” faith leaders who will allow anything and say nothing.
As a society we cannot serve two masters. It’s either God or the government. Guess which one the government favors?
I have empathy for those conservative Christian military members who are trying to faithfully uphold the constitution at this time. It is not an easy road.
In many ways, “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” has become the motto of the obama controlled media.
“Look for more in the military to leave.”
And then look for a draft since no sane person will enlist in this sham.
Then the draftees will be subject to the p.c. military police.
One hell of a world we live.
So essentially, the US military Generals are now replacing God with the obozo. From their lips, Praise the obozo!! When the SHTF I hope those generals aren’t forgotten.
Satan is very active in this country and has many working for him. BUT, remember GOD IS IN CHARGE, no one else. We’ve allowed this by electing people with no will to do what is right.(they call it “compromising”) They and we have allowed laws to be passed that are contrary to Americ’s Christian base.
I almost cannot think of a harder situation to be in.
Actually, I think it is even worse than that. He will get more and more like minded enlistees and officers who will follow orders to fire upon American citizens when he needs the iron fist to eradicate opposition to his imperial rule.
maybe the ones drafted will be those on public assistance, so they can continue to obtain their EBT cards. No serve, not receive...
One can only hope...
That is the wrong approach because then we would have lost. We need to get the homos out. The fruits are still laying low for the most part. They are realizing that most people are not all Happy, Happy, Joy, Joy about their behavior.
The problem is that, the gays/lesbians are now a “protected” group. The sad reality is that it could very well drive these clergy out which would be a big lost indeed.
This is why my oldest son decided not to pursue military chaplaincy. Which is a shame because he was very excited about the prospect of serving our military men and women and would have been good in that role.
Of course, our muslim in chief hasn’t said a thing about prisoner and terrorist hassan being able to wear a beard in deference to his religious beliefs in hearings where many of our brave and honlrable servicepeople were murdered. Hating and murdering is OK with him as long as muslims do it.
"C'mere little boy, sit with me."
Render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s. Render unto 0bama all the rest.
I wonder how many of the outreach military Imams go along with the gay or go rules.
“I have empathy for those conservative Christian military members who are trying to faithfully uphold the constitution at this time. It is not an easy road.”
No, it’s not. Fortunately, we’ve got quite an effective underground prayer and intercession ministry going in my Corps involving all ranks.
Thanks for the ping, Doc. I saw it and meant to get back to it. (You have hastened the day. :>)
The author is basically correct, and I say that after a career as an Army Chaplain.
A chaplain is supposed to be a fully qualified, fully ordained minister/priest of the denomination he represents, and he is to fully represent them. That is his religious ministry.
On the other hand, there are roles a chaplain generally performs that are not specific to his religious identity. For example, in my years in service I had a couple assignments where I was uniquely used as a family counselor due to education I’d received. I was to counsel, train, and educate. Additionally, I was a trainer in terms of suicide prevention, long-distance relationships, deployment and redeployment family issues, etc.
There are other roles as a set of visitation eyes and ears for a commander that make a chaplain a resource for a commander on the morale of a unit as it relates to the chaplain’s expertise in morality, esprit, etc.
In short, not all of a chaplain’s time is used in uniquely religious pursuits.
So, given that a chaplain is to fairly represent his denomination but also be a human resource for a commander in non-religious concerns, what does that mean for Obama’s focus on freedom in religious matters.
Simply, that there won’t be freedom in non-religious matters.
For me, there’d be an easy work around. If I had to counsel a gay couple, I’d counsel them to break up. I wouldn’t have to paint a target on myself. I’d simply have to say that the “facts” point to their greater happiness apart from each other.
Really, though, the issue is being rated by a commander who can end your career with a bad rating. If he’s an old-army kind of guy, then you’re probably protected. If he’s a wingnut himself or craven toward them, then he’ll be on a crusade to root out those who believe homosexuality is deadly behavior for the poor souls who engage in it.
may God Bless you and keep you. Thank you for your service.
God is in charge, but He is very angry.
Remember Obama’s remark about people clinging bitterly to guns and Bibles. Once he finishes with our guns, he will go to work on the Bibles. I’m not kidding.
Biggirl said “Look for more in the military to leave.”
That is what big ears barry wants so the chinese won’t feel threatened.
Jist tink, fu yeahs go, cudent eben spel maj genrule, now I is 1.