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China Warns Citizens To 'Prepare For The Worst' As It Sends Fighters To East China Sea
Business Insider ^ | January 11, 2013 | Robert Johnson

Posted on 01/11/2013 12:51:10 PM PST by LucianOfSamasota

After repeatedly flying surveillance aircraft into disputed airspace with Japan, and Tokyo scrambling F-15s in response, China's now sending fighters of its own on "routine flights" into the East China Sea.

China Daily:

A Foreign Ministry spokesman said Friday that Chinese military planes were on"routine flights" in relevant airspace over the East China Sea. Spokesman Hong Lei made the remarks at a press briefing in response to media reports that Japan sent fighter jets to head off a number of Chinese military planes spotted in Japan's "air defense identification zone" over the East China Sea on Thursday.

"China firmly opposes Japan's moves to gratuitously escalate the situation and create tensions," Hong said.

The area north of the Japanese-controlled Senkaku islands, known as the Diaoyus in China, is reportedly home to billions in oil and gas deposits claimed both by Japan and China.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china
Though it's a formal agreement to aid Japan if it comes under attack, there are few who believe the U.S. would risk a full-blown war with China over a few uninhabited islands, regardless of how much oil and gas lay beneath them.

China is flexing its muscles do to the perception of US weakness under Obama, claiming territory from Japan, Vietnam, Taiwan, Philippines, etc. Obama's foreign policy will lead to a new world order. And we will be at the bottom.

1 posted on 01/11/2013 12:51:19 PM PST by LucianOfSamasota
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To: LucianOfSamasota
...flexing its muscles due to the perception of US weakness... Sorry.
2 posted on 01/11/2013 12:52:57 PM PST by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

We need to go in there with a stealth bomber and just blow those islet away, then they can argue with each other over some open water.


3 posted on 01/11/2013 12:54:27 PM PST by stuartcr ("I upraded my moral compass to a GPS, to keep up with the times.")
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To: stuartcr

“We need to go in there with a stealth bomber and just blow those islet away, then they can argue with each other over some open water.”

Bad idea.
There is no guarantee that those bombers are mission capable. And even if they were, it’s not wise to anger the country that makes the stuff your military needs.

The new reality is America is weak, and getting weaker by the day.


4 posted on 01/11/2013 12:59:48 PM PST by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: LucianOfSamasota
If Japan and China go to war, who would the US side with? If we side with Japan, would we boycott all of China's products? If we side with China, what happens with our Japanese technology and automobiles?
5 posted on 01/11/2013 1:02:38 PM PST by Cowboy Bob (Soon the "invisible hand" will press the economic "reset" button.)
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To: brownsfan

America is not weak, just our current leaders...couple administrations from now, and we’ll be back on top.


6 posted on 01/11/2013 1:12:43 PM PST by stuartcr ("I upraded my moral compass to a GPS, to keep up with the times.")
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To: LucianOfSamasota
The area north of the Japanese-controlled Senkaku islands, known as the Diaoyus in China, is reportedly home to billions in oil and gas deposits claimed both by Japan and China.

Oh for heaven sakes.. who are they trying to BS? Everyone knows that Bush is the only one starting wars over oil. Give me a break. Golly.

7 posted on 01/11/2013 1:15:59 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Cowboy Bob
There's no telling what an Obamugabe administration will do. Probably something to weaken America even further. But we do have treaty obligations with Japan. See this pdf for an overview:,

Treaty Obligations with Japan

8 posted on 01/11/2013 1:17:59 PM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: LucianOfSamasota

We will defend communism wherever it rears its ugly head.

And 51% of the population agree.
The enemy is in the White House.


9 posted on 01/11/2013 1:18:52 PM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

China realizes it US Debt notes are worthless as the US contemplates another increase in its debt ceiling. Thus, China takes revenge on Japan.


10 posted on 01/11/2013 1:21:07 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: stuartcr
"We need to go in there with a stealth bomber and just blow those islet away, then they can argue with each other over some open water."

Huh? Why get involved at all? Just let the Japanese and China sort each other out; not to mention we would have committed an act of war against one or both of them by running a bombing mission.

11 posted on 01/11/2013 1:22:56 PM PST by Truth29
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To: stuartcr

the islets are not mere sand bars

the bases of the islets would remain, below the waterline, after any bombardment, and as such they would continue to be claimed as someone’s, may someone’s territory

as most of the disputed islands in the ocean waters around Asia are claimed by more than one modern nation

the article only concerns one such dispute and only one of the disputes in which China is using bullying and trying to use bullying and one-on-one negotiations, instead of southeast Asian multinational agreements, to get settlements in these disputes more favorable to it

unless the U.S. very, very strongly steps up it’s favor of the all southeast Asian multinational approach, China WILL try to bully its way, one by one, and there is no way of knowing if it will exceed everyone’s patience or pull itself back from causing actual military hostilities


12 posted on 01/11/2013 1:23:35 PM PST by Wuli
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To: stuartcr

“America is not weak, just our current leaders...couple administrations from now, and we’ll be back on top.”

You mean Hillary Clinton and Corey Booker are going to be good presidents?


13 posted on 01/11/2013 1:24:37 PM PST by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: Bernard Marx

I guess the statement that we have treaty obligations, but no one expects us to go to war to defend Japan, is just like we have borders, citizenship, etc but no one expects us to do a damn thing about illegal citizens of other countries walking in here.

Or we have a Constitution but not when it gets in teh way of Obamacare or gun confiscation, or religious freedom.

In other words, nothing means a damn thing to the leftists who are attempting to subvert the entire world order.

The left will get many millions of us killed. We just had an election in which no one gave a damn about anything but Benghazi, Israel and Afghanistan - meanwhile we are being disarmed and China is preparing for the big one.


14 posted on 01/11/2013 1:27:14 PM PST by Williams (No Obama)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

Probably the best thing Japan could do is give the Chinese a significant distraction away from the area. The nature of this distraction would almost have to be the loss of a significant, tangible asset for China.

And quite certainly, this distraction would have to have plausible deniability for the Japanese. Something under the heading of “bad luck” for the Chinese. Very bad luck.


15 posted on 01/11/2013 1:27:55 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: LucianOfSamasota
...flexing its muscles due to the perception of US weakness

That is exactly what is going on. Historically these islands have never been claimed or even contested by China before now. There has been no dispute until oil was discovered in the seabottom.

This is naked aggression by China and they are counting on Obama to do nothing. They are making a sound judgment about that, even though it is in the service of the usual Chinese criminality.

16 posted on 01/11/2013 1:31:24 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: LucianOfSamasota
Though it's a formal agreement to aid Japan if it comes under attack, there are few who believe the U.S. would risk a full-blown war with China over a few uninhabited islands, regardless of how much oil and gas lay beneath them.

Darn.. poor Senator Feinstein. She's busy enough taking the little people's guns. Now she will have to apologize "on behalf of the American people" for every plane the Chi-Coms lose in any dispute with us -- if it happens.

Remember back in 2001?

Chinese pilot Wang Wei twice "buzzed" the U.S. EP-3 Aries II plane over international waters, flying directly for the EP-3 Aries II, the F-8 hit the propeller of the U.S. plane's No. 1 engine causing the crash of the Chinese F-8.

Best if the Americans apologise now - soon the Chinese could rule the US (2001)

"Dianne Feinstein, the senior senator from California, was unusual in rushing to apologise for the EP-3 incident."

BTW the Chi-Coms demand that American citizens be disarmed.. and who is the first to spring into action?

It's no secret that Feinstein and her financier husband Richard Blum have close ties to Red China. Some of their vast wealth comes from Red China.

17 posted on 01/11/2013 1:31:43 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: stuartcr

“America is not weak, just our current leaders...couple administrations from now, and we’ll be back on top.”

Well said! We can nuke anyone on the face of the earth but currently, we a have a pus&y leader.


18 posted on 01/11/2013 1:33:05 PM PST by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

Not only that, but this thing could escalate to the point where China and Japan (our two biggest foreign bond buyers) no longer have any money to lend us because they have other priorities. If they fail to show up for the next T-Bill auction, the only tool left in ObaMao’s arsenal is hyperinflation.


19 posted on 01/11/2013 1:34:50 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

I wonder what the delivery time for guns and ammo is over there!?


20 posted on 01/11/2013 1:43:13 PM PST by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: stuartcr

Why not just send Hank Johnson and his fatassed constituents to tip the islands over?


21 posted on 01/11/2013 1:45:52 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat
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To: stuartcr
We need to go in there with a stealth bomber and just blow those islet away

Because in the fevered neocon mind, reckless militarism is the default solution to every foreign policy problem.

22 posted on 01/11/2013 2:00:27 PM PST by Romulus
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To: Williams
"...I guess the statement that we have treaty obligations, but no one expects us to go to war to defend Japan, is just like we have borders, citizenship, etc but no one expects us to do a damn thing about illegal citizens of other countries walking in here.

Or we have a Constitution but not when it gets in the way of Obamacare or gun confiscation, or religious freedom..."

Or, like Chrysler secured-bond holders who were steamrolled into accepting 29 cents on the dollar for their loans. Meanwhile, the underfunded pension plans of the United Auto Workers — unsecured creditors, but possessed of better political connections — received more than 40 cents on the dollar.

The rule of law means nothing, absolutely nothing to liberals and Marxists. With this piece of crap in office, our allies are on their own regardless of any treaty obligations, as are any US citizens who presume that the law of the republic will offer them any kind of protection or recourse

Buckle up, folks. It is going to get bumpy in the near future.

23 posted on 01/11/2013 2:09:13 PM PST by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

China could probably whip all those countries if the US stayed out of it. That is the problem, we have pretty much funded their military through borrowing.


25 posted on 01/11/2013 2:17:07 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

Sell the islands to Walmart.


26 posted on 01/11/2013 2:23:07 PM PST by bunkerhill7 (doggone!)
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To: brownsfan

Is this all saber rattling or is war looming? When America is weak—the world become a more dangerous place. Obama doesn’t know—he was never trained at the Great Game. This means he will stay neutral is such a war just as he does with Syria and Iran.


27 posted on 01/11/2013 2:35:54 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

It’s not the islets it’s the economic zones which reach
out 200 miles from them, could be as much as 200,000 sq
miles or more of minerals and oil.


28 posted on 01/11/2013 2:41:49 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
The nature of this distraction would almost have to be the loss of a significant, tangible asset for China.

You wouldn't be hinting at the floating 'casino' would you?

29 posted on 01/11/2013 3:21:38 PM PST by JOAT
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To: GeronL

Do NOT count the Japanese out.

A few years ago, the defense minister, (I’m sorry, I cannot remember his name or the year, it was recent.) declared that. “If on Monday, Japan decides to build an atomic bomb, we would have it by Friday.”

The only people who caught that were the chinese, who went ballistic.

Truth is Japan has all the INGREDIENTS at their disposal, they are just labeled under “civilian peaceful purposes.” They have hidden behind Article 9 for years as a ruse.

The chinese know that truth. Its why it upset them so badly.

If china moves on Japanese space militarily, Article 9 will be swept aside in half a day, and Japan will harness its “parallel” technology in a heartbeat.

Japanese militarism isn’t that far beneath the surface, count on it.


30 posted on 01/11/2013 3:33:00 PM PST by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslimz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

Japan will kick ass against the 30 IQ ChiComm apes. The ChiComm morons crashed 20 planes below the waterline when they were trying aircraft landings. The ChiComm monkeys have one pilot who landed on the carrier and walked away.

Long live Mao, morons.


31 posted on 01/11/2013 3:36:10 PM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: Truth29

We’re pretty much automatically involved.


32 posted on 01/11/2013 4:19:50 PM PST by stuartcr ("I upraded my moral compass to a GPS, to keep up with the times.")
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