Proof that Concealed Carry permit holders live in a dream world, Part One

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[Right Wing Assault]

The controlled study documented in these videos show that concealed carry permit holders are fooling themselves if they think they will be able to react effectively to armed aggressors. Most CCW holders won't even be able to un-holster their gun. They will more likely be killed themselves or kill innocent bystanders than stop the aggressor. For more details, see "Unintended Consequences: Pro-Handgun Experts Prove That Handguns Are a Dangerous Choice for Self-Defense." http://www.vpc.org/studies/unincont.htm.

CCW permit holders don't protect innocent people. They kill them.

[paratrooper82]

Hey rocky! Watch me pull another “study” out of my ass, clearly showing Americans don't need guns at all! signed Always Been Communist (ABC) News Corp.

ABC old media working hard to get strict gun control measures passed against Mr. and Mrs. America!

[Right Wing Assault]

OK, some people aren’t watching the videos, so I WILL comment.

They take college kids and give them CCW training. Then they put one or two them in a “classroom” with a bunch of other “students” who will be acting. The Glocks are real but they are paint marking training cartridges. Everyone wears a full helmet with a burka-style window and paint ball-type gloves. They also wear baggy, long padded sweatshirts to conceal their weapons. Then one or two bad guys storm the room and start shooting the “teacher.” The students are supposed to take them out.

Two of the three can’t even draw their guns!

Also, rather than dropping for cover behind the desks until they are ready, they stand up straight fumbling with the weapon, making themselves perfect targets. The shooters also seem to know who they are and blast the hell out of them.

The moral, don’t do all of the above.

I will remember not to wear a blindfold and boxing gloves under a sea of fabric the next time I need to shoot. I will also remember not use any tactics at all.

[LibLieSlayer]

Of course I wouldn’t shoot Georgie... I would just bip him on the nose with the muzzle... ammo is just too darned expensive to waste on that piece of human waste.

LLS

[skeeter]

ABC News steppin' & fetchin' for president Obama.

Mainstream medias blatantly supporting the democrat's gun grabbing agenda by continuing the steady stream of gun related non-stories, keeping the pressure on.

The bastards need to start filing with the IRS as political organizations.

[Yosemitest]

No wonder why NO ONE takes ABC News for anything but a bad joke.

It's timer to mock the "Gun Control" Zombies!
"Gun Control" is a firm grip, steady breathing, accurate aim (developed by lots of practice), and a slow trigger pull.


The Swiss have got it CORRECT !
We need to learn from the Swiss and implement their "gun control measures" here in the United States right now, today!

" Today, military service for Swiss males is universal. At about age 20, every Swiss male goes through 118 consecutive days of recruit training in the Rekrutenschule. ...

Even before required training begins, young men and women may take optional courses with the Swiss army's M57 assault rifle.
They keep that gun at home for three months and receive six half-day training sessions.

From age 21 to 32, a Swiss man serves as a "frontline" troop in the Auszug, and devotes three weeks a year (in eight of the 12 years) to continued training.
From age 33 to 42, he serves in the Landwehr (like America's National Guard); every few years, he reports for two-week training periods.
Finally, from ages 43, to 50, he serves in the Landsturm; in this period, he only spends 13 days total in "home guard courses."

Over a soldier's career he also spends scattered days on mandatory equipment inspections and required target practice.
Thus, in a 30-year mandatory military career, a Swiss man only spends about one year in direct military service.
Following discharge from the regular army, men serve on reserve status until age 50 (55 for officers).

By the Federal Constitution of 1874, military servicemen are given their first equipment, clothing and arms.
After the first training period, conscripts must keep gun, ammunition and equipment an ihrem Wohnort ("in their homes") until the end of their term of service.

Today, enlisted men are issued M57 AUTOMATIC assault rifles and officers are given pistol.
Each reservist is issued 24 rounds of ammunition in sealed packs for emergency use.
(Contrary to Handgun Control's claim that "all ammunition must be accounted for," the emergency ammunition is the only ammo that requires accounting.)

After discharge from service, the man is given a bolt rifle free from registration or obligation.
Starting in the 1994, the government will GIVE ex-reservists assault rifles. Officers carry pistols rather than rifles and are given their pistols the end of their service.

When the government adopts a new infantry rifle, it sells the old ones to the public.

Reservists are encouraged to buy MILITARY ammunition
(7.5 and 5.6mm-5.56 mm in other countries-for rifles and 9 and 7.65 mm Luger for pistols)
which is sold AT COST by the government, for target practice .
Non-military ammunition for long-gun hunting and .22 Long Rifle (LR) ammo are not subsidised, but are subiect to NO sales controls.
Non-military non-hunting ammunition more powerful than .22 LR (such as .38 Spl.) is registered at the time of sale.

Swiss military ammo must be registered IF bought at a private store, BUT NEED NOT BE REGISTERED IF bought at a range.
The nation's 3,000 shooting ranges sell the overwhelming majority of ammunition.
Technically, ammunition bought at the range must be used at the range, but the rule is barely known and almost never obeyed.

The army SELLS a variety of machine guns, submachine guns, anti-tank weapons, anti-aircraft guns, howitzers and cannons.
Purchasers of these weapons require an EASILY OBTAINED cantonal license, and the weapons are registered.
In a nation of six million people, there are at least two million guns, including 600,000 FULLY AUTOMATIC assault rifles, half a million pistols, and numerous machine guns.
Virtually every home has a gun.

Besides SUBSIDIZED military surplus, the Swiss can buy other firearms easily too.
While long guns require NO special purchase procedures, handguns are sold only to those with a Waffenerwerbsschien (purchase certificate) issued by a cantonal authority.
A certificate is issued to every applicant over 18 who is not a criminal or mentally infirm.

There are NO restrictions on the carrying of long guns.
About half the cantons have strict permit procedures for carrying handguns, and the other half have NO rules at all.
There is NO discernible difference in the crime rate between the cantons as a result of the different policies.

Thanks to a lawsuit brought by the Swiss gun lobby, semi-automatic rifles require NO PURCHASE PERMIT and are NOT registered by the government.
Thus, the ONLY long guns registered by the government are FULL AUTOMATICS."

The Swiss have got it CORRECT !
Let's adopt THEIR LAWS !

Remember:

The beauty of the Second Amendment is
that it will not be needed
until they TRY to take it.

Read Second Amendment: It’s Not About Hunting, IT'S ABOUT TYRANNY .

[bmwcyle]

The majority of crimes stopped by gun owner carrying a gun never have to draw their gun. They only have to let the criminal know they have a gun.

[Boogieman]

Well, even if people only have minimal training and still make mistakes, what does that tell us about their chances versus an armed criminal? The criminal probably didn’t have any training at all, and since they are likely carrying illegally, most of them are not putting in any range time. I’ve also seen some anecdotal data from police that show a lot of the firearms criminals use are non-functional, unreliable, or not even loaded.

So, considering that, even a guy with just a small amount of training is at least even odds with most criminals, probably having the edge, with surprise and all.

[Hot Tabasco]

Folks need to visit at least the first video to leave comments for “Ponyboy”......what a liberal jackiass.........

[History Repeats]

Total bull. I have drawn my gun in 5 different situations and each time I was able to protect myself.

Plus my friends and I were Airsoft players and got used to pulling and using our guns just as we would in a Real Life event. We trained in how to draw and point shoot and had very good results.

[ConradofMontferrat]

ABC News:

1. It ISN’T NEWS

2. POO TRAILS AND P!SS STAINS.

3. Commie pig propaganda.

4. Nuff said.

[Dead Corpse]

Already proven false.

Next.

[Secret Agent Man]

in fact the reverse is true.

ccw gun owners, when they do use their weapon, hit fewer innocent bystanders than police do, they shoot less bullets on average than police do per incident, and they hit the criminal more often - they are on target - more than police.

[Da Coyote]

Please, please, ABC,

Your position requires little, if any intellect.

Do not try thinking.

Leave that to adults.

[Tucsonican]

I didn’t watch the Part 2 that was posted in this thread, but I have seen this ABC piece of comedy.

Is this the video where they simply hand someone a weapon, NO TRAINING whatsoever, and then blame everyone in the world because things didn’t go smoothly ?

It's even worse than that. If you watch the video you will see that the "protector" is seated in the same place for each run through and that the shooter, immediately after going for the instructor, turns to the "protector".

In a real situation the "protector" could be seated anywhere and the shooter would need to identify them during the commotion of everyone running which would give that "protector" several additional seconds to take care of business.

It was a completely bogus setup and completely agenda driven.

[dhs12345]

What is their solution? Call the police and wait for them to show up?

[VeniVidiVici]

Here’s a home defense story from earlier today. Not CCW but a happy ending with the mom putting five .38 slugs into the bad guy protecting herself and her two kids.

Listen to the 911 call if you have time.

http://www.cbsatlanta.com/story/20536626/911-call-released-in-loganville-home-invasion

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[EricT.]

So they don’t ever consider that maybe someone in the next classroom or down the hall might have a CCW?

From your description of a total lack of even a rudimentary tactical response by the supposed CCW holder, this is utter Bravo Sierra.

[TigersEye]

Pat Caddell called it. Do you believe it yet?

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The Media are enemies of the people!