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Obama Admin Responds to Secession Petitions: Our States Remain United
The White House ^ | Friday, January 11, 2013 | Jon Carson

Posted on 01/11/2013 5:25:07 PM PST by kristinn

Official White House Response toPeacefully grant the State of Louisiana to withdraw from the United States of America and create its own NEW government. and 8 other petitions .

Our States Remain United

By Jon Carson

Thank you for using the White House's online petitions platform to participate in your government.

In a nation of 300 million people -- each with their own set of deeply-held beliefs -- democracy can be noisy and controversial. And that's a good thing. Free and open debate is what makes this country work, and many people around the world risk their lives every day for the liberties we often take for granted.

But as much as we value a healthy debate, we don't let that debate tear us apart.

Our founding fathers established the Constitution of the United States "in order to form a more perfect union" through the hard and frustrating but necessary work of self-government. They enshrined in that document the right to change our national government through the power of the ballot -- a right that generations of Americans have fought to secure for all. But they did not provide a right to walk away from it. As President Abraham Lincoln explained in his first inaugural address in 1861, "in contemplation of universal law and of the Constitution the Union of these States is perpetual." In the years that followed, more than 600,000 Americans died in a long and bloody civil war that vindicated the principle that the Constitution establishes a permanent union between the States. And shortly after the Civil War ended, the Supreme Court confirmed that "[t]he Constitution, in all its provisions, looks to an indestructible Union composed of indestructible States."

Although the founders established a perpetual union, they also provided for a government that is, as President Lincoln would later describe it, "of the people, by the people, and for the people" -- all of the people. Participation in, and engagement with, government is the cornerstone of our democracy. And because every American who wants to participate deserves a government that is accessible and responsive, the Obama Administration has created a host of new tools and channels to connect concerned citizens with White House. In fact, one of the most exciting aspects of the We the People platform is a chance to engage directly with our most outspoken critics.

So let's be clear: No one disputes that our country faces big challenges, and the recent election followed a vigorous debate about how they should be addressed. As President Obama said the night he won re-election, "We may have battled fiercely, but it's only because we love this country deeply and we care so strongly about its future."

Whether it's figuring out how to strengthen our economy, reduce our deficit in a responsible way, or protect our country, we will need to work together -- and hear from one another -- in order to find the best way to move forward. I hope you'll take a few minutes to learn more about the President's ideas and share more of your own.

Jon Carson is Director of the Office of Public Engagement


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: obama; secession; whitehousepetitions
H/t Zeke Miller at BuzzFeed
1 posted on 01/11/2013 5:25:19 PM PST by kristinn
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To: kristinn
As President Obama said the night he won re-election, "We may have battled fiercely, but it's only because we love this country deeply and we care so strongly about its future."

Boy howdy he didn't waste any time telling his first 'whopper' did he?

2 posted on 01/11/2013 5:27:58 PM PST by skeeter
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To: kristinn

Not for long under you, t*rdbrain quota baby.


3 posted on 01/11/2013 5:28:40 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: kristinn

"There is scarce a king in a hundred who would not, if he could, follow the example of Pharaoh - get first all the people's money, then their lands, and then make them and their children servants forever. It will be said that we do not propose to establish kings. I know it. But there is a natural inclination in mankind to kingly government. It sometimes
relieves them from aristocratic domination. They had rather have one tyrant than 500. It gives more the appearance of equality among citizens, and that they like.
I am apprehensive - therefore - perhaps too apprehensive - that the government of these States may in future times end in a monarchy [not called a monarchy but an executive with monarchial powers]. But this catastrophe, I think, may long be delayed, if in our proposed system we do not sow the seeds of contention, faction and tumult, by making our posts of honor places of profit. If we do, I fear that, though we employ at first a number and not a single person, the number will in time be set aside, it will only nourish the fetus of a king (as the honorable gentleman from Virginia very aptly expressed it), and a king will the sooner be set over us."

-- Benjamin Franklin

4 posted on 01/11/2013 5:29:01 PM PST by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: kristinn; All

President Obama...Blowin’ smoke...


5 posted on 01/11/2013 5:30:02 PM PST by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: kristinn
Reminded me of a smack down via jimmi the peanut, another zer0. FAIL
6 posted on 01/11/2013 5:30:23 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: kristinn
That's up to us to decide, not him.
7 posted on 01/11/2013 5:33:18 PM PST by JoeFromSidney ( New book: RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY. Buy from Amazon.)
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To: kristinn

Barry obviously doesn’t get it. Those states on the map that were colored red didn’t want him to have a second term. That’s not very “united”.


8 posted on 01/11/2013 5:35:53 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Impeach Obama Now.)
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To: kristinn; skeeter
So let's be clear: No one disputes that our country faces big challenges, and the recent election followed a vigorous debate about how they should be addressed. As President Obama said the night he won re-election, "We may have battled fiercely, but it's only because we love this country deeply and we care so strongly about its future."

OMG, I just did a Spit Take.

9 posted on 01/11/2013 5:37:04 PM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: kristinn

C-section:knife :: Secession:___


10 posted on 01/11/2013 5:37:16 PM PST by mikrofon (FReedom BUMP)
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To: kristinn
Sorry, Bama. The big smile has no possession on me.

Under that exterior is a Marxist. I. Accept. That. As. Truth.

11 posted on 01/11/2013 5:37:31 PM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt. Our nation's foundation is under attack.)
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To: skeeter
As President Obama said the night he won re-election, "We may have battled fiercely, but it's only because we love this country deeply and we care so strongly about its future."

That commie pig, white hating racist wants to destroy this country. He HATES America, he HATES white folk, he HATES individualism and capitalism.

Anyone who doubts that is a USEFUL IDIOT.

12 posted on 01/11/2013 5:38:42 PM PST by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslimz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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To: kristinn
Our States Remain United

Actually...no.

You have divided the states. So do you demand that they behave in a manner unsuited to the beliefs of their voters?

Let me suggest Mr. Obama...what you are saying is that our states will remain unified...not united.

You can demand our inclusion in your idea of a country...but you cannot, not now or ever, win our hearts.

The United States of America will never give in to your communist takeover.

Take your Marxist/Alinsky ideology to your favorite club, Mans Country in Chicago, wherein they will obligingly and gleefully shove it up your derriere (in the manner you have done the same to the America people).

In other words, take your ideology and shove it...or up yours Bronco Bamma!

13 posted on 01/11/2013 5:39:43 PM PST by RoosterRedux (The 2nd Amendment is our defense against tyranny.)
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To: Lazamataz

As Franklin said in the above quote let us not make
our positions of honor a source of parfit.

Isn’t that what they have become?
Our representatives all grow rich in office.
They have profit but little honor.
It’s time for a change.
Restore the Constitution.


15 posted on 01/11/2013 5:47:47 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: tet68

We have so terribly departed from the ideals of the American founders, that sometimes, lying in bed before sleeping, I fantasize about what I would do to create a Free Martian Nation when colonizing the planet, since it is as distant from Earth now as America was from England.


16 posted on 01/11/2013 5:52:27 PM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: kristinn

“Constitution, in all its provisions, looks to an indestructible Union composed of indestructible States.”

Well with what he is doing to the Constitution ... that is up for debate.


17 posted on 01/11/2013 5:54:22 PM PST by crusadersoldier
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Only the 6th President to garner 51% twice. Instead of wasting time on inane petitions we might want to build a party to win. The only civil war is going on is within the party


19 posted on 01/11/2013 6:05:03 PM PST by chopperjc
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To: kristinn
They enshrined in that document the right to change our national government through the power of the ballot . . .
___________________________________________________
That’s an incomplete statement. It should read: They enshrined in that document the right to change our national government through the power of the ballot . . . AND, ADDITIONALLY, when in the course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
20 posted on 01/11/2013 6:16:53 PM PST by iontheball
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To: kristinn

The States are incredibly divided. Some kowtow to the federal tyranny. Others, and a growing number, are telling the feds to screw off. Look at State Nullification. Eight States have nullified federal gun control laws for any firearm that is made and remains within the State. Also, there is marijuana. Federal law completely bans marijuana, but many States have legalized it for medical purposes and now two have legalized it even for recreational purposes. The States are rising up and the People need to be with them. Hopefully, the States will become unified in abolishing the federal tyranny.


21 posted on 01/11/2013 7:08:54 PM PST by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: kristinn
Don't be so sure kenyan.

Impeach the kenyan or secession.


22 posted on 01/11/2013 7:19:13 PM PST by ex91B10 (We've tried the Soap Box,the Ballot Box and the Jury Box; ONE BOX LEFT!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer; unkus; vette6387; mazda77; flat; celtic gal; MamaDearest; seekthetruth; ...

Apparently, the DC hacks, one and all, don’t care that half of the country despises the Regime and Congress!!

Drain the swamp in 2014 and finish in 2016. The people I’ve talked to, both parties, want them all gone and consider them all corrupt.


23 posted on 01/11/2013 8:00:03 PM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: iontheball; kristinn
"...when in the course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. "

Thanks for pointing out the key revisionist crap in that WH response.

24 posted on 01/11/2013 8:09:27 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: kristinn

Why should the red states have to secede from the union? I would rather kick the blue states out!


25 posted on 01/11/2013 8:13:12 PM PST by A. Patriot (Re-electing Obama is like the Titanic backing up to hit the iceberg again.)
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26 posted on 01/11/2013 8:13:46 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: kristinn

Louisiana to Obama: “We’re not ASKING, dummy- We’re TELLING”


27 posted on 01/11/2013 8:17:31 PM PST by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: Lazamataz

‘Randy pope’ *snort*


28 posted on 01/11/2013 8:34:30 PM PST by skeeter
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To: kristinn; mickie; flaglady47; seenenuf; Chigirl 26
The petitions for secession just play into Obama's hands. He'll use them with gusto to point out how he'll hold the country's sovereign states together forever.

He fancies himself the Lincoln of his time....he's even going to be holding the Lincoln Bible in his Idolization Day swearing-in ceremony.

I bet he'll grow a beard and a wart and wear a top hat for the day's festivities.

Leni

29 posted on 01/11/2013 8:37:04 PM PST by MinuteGal (Send a penny NOW to CNN, 1 Time-Warner Center, NY,NY 10019 for "PENNIES FOR LEAVING!" (Piers Morgan))
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To: kristinn

“But as much as we value a healthy debate, we don’t let that debate tear us apart.”

The economy is fine. Spending isn’t the problem. Guns are bad.
We welcome your input, as long as you don’t disagree with us.
We’re the White House, don’t let the door hit you in the ...


30 posted on 01/11/2013 9:04:42 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: MinuteGal

He’s already got the wart.


31 posted on 01/11/2013 9:08:48 PM PST by left that other site (Worry is the Darkroom that Develops Negatives.)
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To: kristinn
Texas was the one state that included an agreement to
secede as part of the entry into the Union.
32 posted on 01/11/2013 9:44:22 PM PST by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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To: kristinn

:)Thank you valerie for your response.


33 posted on 01/11/2013 9:51:39 PM PST by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: MinuteGal

I agree with you, and would point out that he already has the wart. All this recent fluffing of Lincoln is to a purpose. We’ll see soon enough what the reason is.


34 posted on 01/12/2013 1:54:06 AM PST by Psalm 144 (Capitol to the districts: "May the odds be ever in your favor.")
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