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Reid Urges Obama to Bypass Congress on Debt Ceiling
Newsmax ^ | Friday, 11 Jan 2013 10:13 PM | Todd Beamon

Posted on 01/12/2013 6:00:31 AM PST by Olog-hai

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and other Democratic leaders told President Barack Obama on Friday to consider side-stepping Congress if no agreement could be reached next month on raising the nation’s $16.4 trillion debt ceiling.

And two Republican congressmen asked Obama in their own letter that the president to “be open and honest with the American people” on the nation’s finances in his State of the Union address next month.

In their letter, Reid and other top Democrats said Obama should “take any lawful steps” to avoid defaulting on the debt—“without Congressional approval, if necessary,” The Washington Post reports. …

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
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1 posted on 01/12/2013 6:00:34 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Conspiracy for treason.


2 posted on 01/12/2013 6:03:49 AM PST by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: Olog-hai

What does Boehner, our fearless leader, have to say about this nonsense?

Nothing but the sound of crickets coming from the Republicans.


3 posted on 01/12/2013 6:04:52 AM PST by dinodino
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To: Olog-hai
The inevitable and disastrous result of the 17th amendment. Senators simply cede their lawful state authority to the emperor with no recourse left to the citizens.

Hey Nevada, represent this.

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4 posted on 01/12/2013 6:05:31 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Olog-hai

That would be high treason.


5 posted on 01/12/2013 6:06:14 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Thought Puzzle: Describe Islam without using the phrase "mental disorder" more than four times.)
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To: Olog-hai

Go ahead and do it Kenyan. Hopefully these few words will be a clarion call:

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.—That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, —That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.—Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States.”


6 posted on 01/12/2013 6:08:32 AM PST by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: dinodino

Boehner is out getting a lube.


7 posted on 01/12/2013 6:08:59 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: Olog-hai

Removal from office by an armed posse of patriots would be too kind for this miscreant.


8 posted on 01/12/2013 6:09:22 AM PST by BillyBonebrake
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To: fatnotlazy

...or having another coat of orange tan sprayed on.


9 posted on 01/12/2013 6:14:15 AM PST by dinodino
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To: Psycho_Bunny

WE say these things, but there’s not a complete set of balls in all of our government.


10 posted on 01/12/2013 6:16:04 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Olog-hai
Emmett Tyrrell asks, "Has Harry Reid Committed a Felony or Just a Misdemeanor?"

Majority Leader Harry's transgression is that for over 1300 days, he has failed to pass a budget. In fact, there is no evidence he has even tried. This is against the law. Federal law clearly requires the Congress to pass a budget every year.

Looks to me like Felonious Harry Reid is a repeat offender. What's the rule on repeat offenders, three strikes, he's out, right?

11 posted on 01/12/2013 6:17:07 AM PST by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: Diogenesis
Conspiracy for treason.

We are on the verge of CWII. The Democrats are acting like the US Government is a democracy, which gives the ruling party the ability to ride roughshod over the minority, which are the God fearing, family oriented, gun clinging fly-over country Americans. We are/were a Constitutional Republic, which protected the rights of the minority from abuse by the majority. Dictator Obama and the democrats are hell-bent on bringing down our Republic. I would guess that their model for America is a Totalitarian dictatorship that they WILL accomplish through Cloward-Piven stratety of overwhelming the system. This requires that they collaple the economy to re-boot the system to their vision of Statism.

It is interesting to me that Boehner was so freakin' naive to think that Obama was negotiating in good faith in the "Financial Cliff" debacle. Most, if not all Freepers know what is going on. We can not and will not negotiate the end of the Republic. If Obama exerts dictatorial control over the Debt Ceiling, America is F*cked! It isn't too much of a stretch of the imagination to see that their goal is to nullify the Constitution and inject their goal of a Communist-Marxist government. They have to exert Gun confiscation to achieve their objectives. Look for it in the next few weeks by EO from Satan's deciple BHO and Hairball Reid.

12 posted on 01/12/2013 6:17:26 AM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: Olog-hai

I find this incredible. You wouldn’t think a senator would put it in such open terms as the headline implies. I see he’s careful to say “lawful” and couch it in terms of avoiding default. Which isn’t at risk, though they profit from pretending.

By the way, there is no lawful way for the president to bypass Congress on appropriation. So this is utterly empty blather. Unless there’s one of them emergency buttons.


13 posted on 01/12/2013 6:18:36 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: Olog-hai
It's coming.


14 posted on 01/12/2013 6:20:33 AM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Olog-hai
It's coming.


15 posted on 01/12/2013 6:20:42 AM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: GBA

I think Congress as a whole passes budgets, not Reid. The house has passed a few, so they’re off the hook. I don’t see why Reid couldn’t blame the rest of the senate, or at least everyone who voted budgets down, in place of himself.

Appropriating money without a budget is another matter, and they’ve done that (boy, howdy.) But you can’t throw then all out of office ans in jail. Or can you?


16 posted on 01/12/2013 6:22:42 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: Jim Noble

Cloward-Piven = Bread(EBT) and Circuses(NFL)


17 posted on 01/12/2013 6:26:17 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Olog-hai

Saying that obama is going to lawfully spend money the Congress didn’t authorize is like saying obama is going to lawfully bugger an 8 year old boy - which he probably does on a regular basis as a member in good standing with his islamofascist cult.


18 posted on 01/12/2013 6:27:50 AM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: Olog-hai

Ignoring Congress in the matter of the budget will be an indication of what is to come, for those so thick that they can’t see it already.

If obumbler ignores the Constitution, or rather purposefully illegally evades the Constitution, then the 2Nd Amendment nor any other part of it is of any importance to him.

Maning not only your guns, but your gold, your property and perhaps even your life is not safe.

The inauguration of obumbler, this month, is the worst thing to ever happen to the US since the Civil War.

And the sheep have not one clue.


19 posted on 01/12/2013 6:30:39 AM PST by old curmudgeon
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To: Olog-hai

Let ‘em bypass

- except make Democrat Party responsible for every dollar $$ borrowed.

The Party must pay back every buck and cannot spend any money for campaign until we return to present.


20 posted on 01/12/2013 6:34:56 AM PST by snoopy 'n linus
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To: Diogenesis

Well maybe at some point we’ll have a Republican President (of course he’ll probably be another Rino) See how Reid likes all that power he’s giving a sitting President then.


21 posted on 01/12/2013 6:36:42 AM PST by Babashane
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To: old curmudgeon

I figure the War Socialism of Wilson and the New Deal were worse, if only for being less precedented. Obamaism is just that much more of the same from the past 80 or so years.


22 posted on 01/12/2013 6:38:28 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: Tublecane

I knew that I would get that answer from someone, and I admit that it is a thoughtful statement made in good taste and good faith.

The loss of life in WWI and WWII was horrendous.

But then there was a fellow named Patrick Henry who said it pretty well.

And I suspect that many of those who died in WWI and WWII would have expressed their view of our government today in much the same way.


23 posted on 01/12/2013 6:50:50 AM PST by old curmudgeon
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To: Olog-hai

24 posted on 01/12/2013 6:55:57 AM PST by Zakeet (Democracy is the art and science of running the circus from the monkey cage - Mencken)
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To: Tublecane

Please pardon my previous reply.

I read yours too fast and missed the word “Socialism”.

You were also referring to the war on the Constitution, not the World Wars.

And you are right that they set the tone that makes today’s abusive government possible.

But obumbler is Wilson on steroids.

Don’t forget that obumbler has only had four years. The next four will make the first look like George Washington unless he takes too big a move in one jump, which given his ego and his unstable mind is a very good possibility.


25 posted on 01/12/2013 6:57:35 AM PST by old curmudgeon
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To: Olog-hai

There are no lawful steps to bypassing Congress.

Read Section 5 of the 14th Amendment—Congress makes that decision not the President, not just Section 4 which Obama always quotes.

Harry Reid is unlawfully ceding his responsibility to another Branch of the government, thus he needs to be removed from office.

The governor and the people of Nevada need to find their voice.

Obama and company have “Cloward and Piven”-ed us to the cliff.


26 posted on 01/12/2013 6:58:42 AM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: Olog-hai
The BBC recently had a story concerning the debt ceiling.

They stated that it is already too late to stop the outlays before we hit the debt ceiling.

It takes changes in software, redirection of federal employees and many other changes just to staunch the flow of government largess.

In a very short time we will learn that the coup has already succeeded and that "America As We Knew Her" is dead and none other of her kind will exist on this planet.

27 posted on 01/12/2013 7:11:17 AM PST by Aevery_Freeman (The trouble with the "masses" is that they never achieve the "m")
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To: old curmudgeon

I wasn’t talking about the loss of life, though that is significant. But more Americans died of the Spanish flu than both wars combined, so there’s some perspective. Since you mentioned Obama’s reelection and the Civil War, I was also thinking in terms of expansion of the central government.


28 posted on 01/12/2013 7:11:49 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: Olog-hai

Behold...... the writing is on the wall.

It has been read and there is fear abroad in Eurocrat land


29 posted on 01/12/2013 7:14:45 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: Olog-hai

Reid seems to be itching for an impeachment fight feeling that he could win it with his Senate majority. I say..,”Let’s Roll!”


30 posted on 01/12/2013 7:17:35 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Tublecane
By the way, there is no lawful way for the president to bypass Congress on appropriation. So this is utterly empty blather. Unless there’s one of them emergency buttons.

The law and rules are for the little people. This administration has ignored Congress since day one and Congress has rolled over for it. There won't be an eye blinked.

31 posted on 01/12/2013 8:02:22 AM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: bgill

If he changes the rules, the rules get changed.

That includes the rules governing his life


32 posted on 01/12/2013 8:07:10 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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