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White House responds to secession petitions, calls for unity instead
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Posted on 01/12/2013 8:31:59 AM PST by Sub-Driver

White House responds to secession petitions, calls for unity instead By Alexandra Jaffe - 01/12/13 10:01 AM ET

The White House has responded to a handful of petitions calling for various states to be given the right to secede from the United States, calling for unity and participatory government instead.

"In a nation of 300 million people — each with their own set of deeply-held beliefs — democracy can be noisy and controversial. And that's a good thing. Free and open debate is what makes this country work, and many people around the world risk their lives every day for the liberties we often take for granted," writes Director of the Office of Public Engagement Jon Carson.

"But as much as we value a healthy debate, we don't let that debate tear us apart," he adds.

A handful of "We the People" petitions calling for the government to allow various states to secede cropped up following President Obama's reelection. The White House has responded to all those which received more than 25,000 signatures within a month, the minimum required to get a response.

The states included in the response are Florida, Louisiana, Georgia, Tennessee, Alabama, North Carolina, South Carolina and Texas. The Texas petition received over 125,000 signatures, more than any other.


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1 posted on 01/12/2013 8:32:01 AM PST by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

>>”But as much as we value a healthy debate, we don’t let that debate tear us apart,” he adds.

And Obama sez:

When they bring a knife, you bring a gun.

If they punch you, you punch back twice as hard.

I won!

FUBO


2 posted on 01/12/2013 8:34:38 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Sub-Driver

You didn’t really think that the Won would let the producers go so easily, did you? He couldn’t afford ‘his country’ if all the hard-working people moved to secession states!


3 posted on 01/12/2013 8:36:05 AM PST by originalbuckeye
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To: Sub-Driver

Free and open debate....as long as you don’t say Muzzie’s are nothing more than organized killers, abortion is wrong, gay marriage is an absurdity and goodness...don’t say the n word...but mf is okay....


4 posted on 01/12/2013 8:36:29 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Sub-Driver

Free and open debate....as long as you don’t say Muzzie’s are nothing more than organized killers, abortion is wrong, gay marriage is an absurdity and goodness...don’t say the n word...but wmf is okay....


5 posted on 01/12/2013 8:36:37 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Sub-Driver

What debate? What compromise? What honest negotiations?

This BS from the “we won” regime? Now do it my way or I’ll EO it?

Paying lip service to “We the People” doesn’t work anymore...NEXT!


6 posted on 01/12/2013 8:37:55 AM PST by EBH ( The 2nd Amendment exists for times like this.)
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To: obama

             

7 posted on 01/12/2013 8:40:15 AM PST by tomkat (HELL NO)
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To: Sub-Driver

They call for unity while Obama works hard to break us up into splinter groups and turn one against the other.


8 posted on 01/12/2013 8:42:48 AM PST by Iron Munro (I Miss America, don't you?)
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To: originalbuckeye

>>You didn’t really think that the Won would let the producers go so easily, did you? He couldn’t afford ‘his country’ if all the hard-working people moved to secession states!

He needs all those flyover-state honkey Christians to work in his slave labor camps once his Chinese supporters call in their markers. Can’t do that if they’re living in the Republic of Texas or the Constitutional Republic of Free America (along with most of the oil, all of the veterans, and most of the industry).


9 posted on 01/12/2013 8:42:56 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Sub-Driver

Not since 1860 has this question been raised and raised so vociferously as since Obama and his Marxists took control. Does that raise any questions about where they are taking us? Does that tell you where we DON’T want to go?


10 posted on 01/12/2013 8:43:55 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Sub-Driver

FU, Hussein.


11 posted on 01/12/2013 8:44:05 AM PST by bergmeid (I told you so - now pass the ammo.)
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To: Sub-Driver
BLAH, BLAH, BLAH...
Now can we get back to what's REALLY important, please?


12 posted on 01/12/2013 8:47:39 AM PST by Baynative (Those that work for a living are now outnumbered by those that vote for a living.)
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To: Sub-Driver

What did we expect, really? These petitions should have been on one of the other sites. I imagine a lot of people understandably didn’t sign even though they support secession.
I thank him for his ;-) encouragement. He’s definitely an asset to the secession movement.


13 posted on 01/12/2013 8:47:59 AM PST by KGeorge
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To: Sub-Driver

Debate? What debate?! Executive fiat never needs debate. The only “debate” is what color ink to go with on the autopen for the Emporer in chief’s siignature on the EO.


14 posted on 01/12/2013 8:48:35 AM PST by TADSLOS ( "I ask sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few politicians."-George Mason)
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To: Sub-Driver
The "cause" is making a come back....

Hope I live long enough to see a secession of the last states that want to be free ....

15 posted on 01/12/2013 8:54:22 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Sub-Driver; All

funny thing- they don’t mention Hawaii- the “home” state of ayatollah obama, who has possibly the largest secessionist movement of any state in the nation...


16 posted on 01/12/2013 8:57:31 AM PST by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: central_va

Love your tag line. When my youngest one was a baby, I rocked him to sleep singing slowly “I am a good ole rebel”. I love that song!


17 posted on 01/12/2013 9:03:09 AM PST by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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To: Sub-Driver
calling for unity and participatory government instead.

In a situation of irreconcilable differences, no unity is possible. Participatory government is impossible when one side is motivated by emotionalism,force,violation of natural rights,statism, and socialism, and the other is motivated by reason, freedom,natural rights,limited government, and capitalism

18 posted on 01/12/2013 9:06:49 AM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: Bryanw92
...we value a healthy debate...

"I won." - January 23, 2009

" I won't negotiate over the debt ceiling." - January 1, 2013

[Boehner] repeated [the spending cut] message so often, he says, that toward the end of the negotiations, the president became irritated and said: "I'm getting tired of hearing you say that." - January 6, 2013

19 posted on 01/12/2013 9:07:43 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Sub-Driver

Well compared to a “one-party rule” socialist dictatorship, courtesy endless executive orders and its support by the ruling elites and its corrupt, lapdog media... and the lack of any opposition party anymore since the GOP has decided on total capitulation on all issues from taxes to illegals to social issues...

Secession from the degenerate, socialist blue states is looking to be a more viable, more realistic option than ever. Amputating the cancer is likely the only route left for survival. That’s my view from Texas.


20 posted on 01/12/2013 9:10:21 AM PST by greene66
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To: Bryanw92

Plus as Rocky Balboa said in “Rocky 6,” “it isn’t the punches you dish out but how many you can take too” and keep moving, paraphrasing. We are going to have to take a lot of hits but we must remain standing and fighting.


21 posted on 01/12/2013 9:16:43 AM PST by Nowhere Man (Whitey, I miss you so much. Take care, pretty girl. (4-15-2001 - 10-12-2012))
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To: Sub-Driver

I wasn’t about to put my name and address to a petition at a government website where they would know who I am and my true feelings about them. But I do support secession for Texas. The problem is that so many Yankees have moved here in the past 10 years in search of the jobs they couldn’t get back home, I suspect any vote to secede would fail.


22 posted on 01/12/2013 9:20:15 AM PST by OrangeHoof (Our economy won't heal until one particular black man is unemployed.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Why would a state need obama’s permission to secede? If he has that power why not start a position to do away with income tax? Or the democrats could start a petition to eliminate the army. he’d probably “approve” that petition.


23 posted on 01/12/2013 9:21:58 AM PST by Terry Mross (People who hate me read my posts and get angry. Yet they can't look away. Brilliant, huh.)
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To: Don Corleone

It really is self-evident, isn’t it? I don’t recall hearing the notion of secession raised once in my entire live until we put this communist in the WH. Maybe it was raised under FDR in the 30s, but I suspect there was living memory of the CW at the time and it wasn’t raised as a serious alternative. What a shame one man can so tear the country apart philosophically that people are actually talking about breaking the country apart physically.


24 posted on 01/12/2013 9:22:40 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Don Corleone

It really is self-evident, isn’t it? I don’t recall hearing the notion of secession raised once in my entire live until we put this communist in the WH. Maybe it was raised under FDR in the 30s, but I suspect there was living memory of the CW at the time and it wasn’t raised as a serious alternative. What a shame one man can so tear the country apart philosophically that people are actually talking about breaking the country apart physically.


25 posted on 01/12/2013 9:22:40 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Sub-Driver

If we are going to have unity, it needs to start in the White House and be based on our traditional and historic values, NOT on some mirage of Marxist promised utopia that will never come to pass.


26 posted on 01/12/2013 9:23:55 AM PST by RatRipper (Self-centeredness, greed, envy, deceit and lawless corruption has killed this once great nation.)
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27 posted on 01/12/2013 9:24:37 AM PST by RedMDer (Those that believe in gun free zones should wear GUN FREE ZONE T-SHIRTS.)
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To: Sub-Driver

The White House has responded to petitions calling for the right to secede from the United States, suggesting they shut TFU, pay more taxes while pushing for more controlling, regulatory government instead.

28 posted on 01/12/2013 9:25:17 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Sub-Driver

White House responds to secession petitions, says “Shut up and take it. We won.”


29 posted on 01/12/2013 9:33:48 AM PST by Washi (Socialism is Slavery)
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To: Sub-Driver

Unity is achieved for 48% of Americans. All patriotic citizens are unified in our disgust whenever Obama violates our Constitution and our God-given human rights. The 51% who are parasitic takers are also unified, but in wanting us disarmed so it will be easier for the power of government to take what we produce and redistribute it to those who choose not to be productive.


30 posted on 01/12/2013 9:36:31 AM PST by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Bryanw92
And Obama sez: When they bring a knife, you bring a gun. If they punch you, you punch back twice as hard.

This, from a limp-wristed pansy whose "punch" couldn't even crease a piece of rice paper.

31 posted on 01/12/2013 9:46:28 AM PST by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Actually there is a healthy contingent of brownshirt wannabe’s on this forum that would love to put torch to our nation.


32 posted on 01/12/2013 3:39:35 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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