Skip to comments.Glenn Beck Rips Apart ‘Madman’ Alex Jones For ‘Crazy’ Piers Morgan Rant
Posted on 01/12/2013 9:47:01 AM PST by Mozilla
Glenn Beck spent the first fifteen minutes of his radio show today discrediting rival conservative host Alex Jones after his epic showdown last night with Piers Morgan.
Beck explains, Piers Morgan is trying to have gun control. He is trying to make everybody who has guns and who believes in the Second Amendment to be a deterrent to an out of control government look like a madman. So now he immediately books the madman and makes him look like a conservative. Hes not a conservative.
Of course, Beck didnt save all of his animosity for Jones, happily dishing it out to Morgan as well. After calling them two of the most dishonest journalists of our age, he went on to explain why his listeners shouldnt trust either one of them.
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Relax, Glenn....have another drink.....go sell some more subscriptions for your TV network.....just sit back one of the “few” times your on your own network (ha ha) and have a drink and guffaw uncontrollably with one of your sychophants “on-air.”
- wore a bullet proof vest in DC next to Sarah Palin who didn't,
- incessently mocked the "birthers"
- is now promoting "civil disobedience" to fight gun control: let yourself be arrested and let's overwhelm the system.
Alex Jones .... I like his fighting spirit and attitude. He is a 911 truther and other stuff that’s wacky but I liked the way he defended the 2nd Amendment and told that Limey gun grabber to go back to England
Alex Jones has had good people on his show like Damon Vickers
“rival conservative host Alex Jones”
Conservative??? He is another conspiracy theory libertarian like nutcase Ron Paul.
Glenn should know better. This tactic did not work too well for the Jews in Germany.
Agreed...I watched Beck when he had his FOX show. Now? Meh...too wishy-washy.
I don’t trust Jones or Beck. That said, Beck has a point but I also I do like how Jones took on Morgan. The problem with Beck is that you do not back down just because the left calls you names. You just keep getting into their face.
The left does this to the right and wins. They get called all sorts of names at first but they eventually win because they don’t give up. The right should not give up now. The left anticipates the right will roll over and be cowards on this issue but we must stand and fight or we’ve lost it all.
Alex Jones = Conspiracy behind every blade of grass
Glenn Beck = Wants to be Disney this week, George Washington the next, Has a terminal case of ADD.
Take your pick...
They are correct to expect it: our "right-leaning" (read slightly less leftist, if that) Republican party does just that -- of course I'm coming to the opinion that it is very-much staged, that the Republican and Democrat parties are really the same party -- but that does not preclude them believing their own propaganda.
Beck may at times be — or at least seem — half crazy, but Alex Jones is full on, no brakes, throttle wide open crazy, with but brief moments of lucidity.
Glenn Beck is part of a complete phony religion. Look in the mirror Glenn.
I'll take Shapiro's performance over Jones' any day. Shapiro changed minds, Jones made us into idiots.
I can believe you about Jones. I’m just not going to delude myself that Beck has anything to say that would interest me. I can think and do for myself.
Does this mean that Beck will no longer plagarize and steal ideas from Alex Jones anymore?
Alex Jones .... I like his fighting spirit and attitude. He is a 911 truther and other stuff thats wacky but I liked the way he defended the 2nd Amendment and told that Limey gun grabber to go back to England
Although Jones is too much “Blame the Jews” for me...the way he went after Morgan is how you go after Liberals and their wacky ideas.
You will not win debate, influence, position, leadership, by being a Surrender Monkey like Beck...or like the other PhonyCons have on issues like taxes, 2d Amendment, Obama Eligibility, and Illegal Aliens.
You have already lost the debate if you are worried about “how liberals will think”.
Beck is a Government Stooge and agent provocateur. I knew it when he was on Fox which btw is now all in for British style gun control.
I doubt he is anti-Semitic though some of his followers are same as with Ron Paul. Jones is probably just being careful but he never utters anti-Jewish stuff. Unless you want to call him being anti-Wall Street to be anti-Jewish. I know some people use this as substitute code words for being anti-Jewish
The real test is whether a media conservative can find and hold an audience without going off the rails. Beck has done that, even if, at times, he seems close to getting off track.
I know conservatives with kids who prefer Beck on TV as more approachable and varied than Limbaugh. And, in one particlar instance, the result is two whip smart, ardently conservative Jewish Republican teenage girls who regularly watch Beck with their parents -- who are both lawyers.
Buckley was a big fan and supporter of Rush Limbaugh and talk radio.
I was a subscriber of National Review until they endorsed Romney in 2007, and I don’t remember them being disdainful of “Limbaugh, talk radio, and Fox News”.
With all due respect and consideration, the fact that one has or does not have children to be justifiably relevant in the national conversation about conservativism and how to stop rabid liberals from taking our freedom isn’t something I see as an ideological necessity.
It is either conservative and just, or it isn’t. The fact that the parents may be Republican, and lawyers is not a consideration for me, either. John Edwards was a lawyer, Bill Clinton and Hillary, too. Along with Barack and Michelle Obama... to my latest knowledge, none of them are state-licensed lawyers now.
Longtime conservatives (including myself) were accustomed to Firing Line, with its dignified discussions, Buckley's mid-Atlantic accent, and a Bach intro; and we regarded NR's high editorial standards, Buckley's love of obscure words and rambling sentences, and the approving references and discussions of classical music in NR as part of the conservative idiom.
In contrast, Limbaugh was on talk radio -- until then, mostly the province of scream and shout local programming; and Limbaugh spoke boastfully, like a radio DJ, was full of parody and banter, and had a rock music intro.
Yet (as you correctly point out) Buckley promptly and warmly embraced Limbaugh and welcomed him into the fold. And that is my point about Beck. He is additive to the appeal and energy of conservatism even if he at times he seems overly wound up. Bek has an audience and a conservative message that merits our approval and support.
You miss my point. My friends, as Jewish lawyers, are of a demographic that is not normally conservative Republican. Yet they find Beck a more appealing personality than Limbaugh, and they find Beck’s teaching efforts helpful in raising their teen daughters to be conservatives. To me, that was an example of why Beack has the audience that he does.
I was National Review readership and a Buckley fan, you don't speak for all of us, I don't know why you claim we felt that way.
How did we miss that? Why are you claiming these things?
National Review eventually moved left and self destructed, after Buckley died, but I don't recall the things that you are claiming.
Beck’s issue is not his conservatism, it’s how he paints the picture. He’s very doom-and-gloom, in my opinion. When he gets into his “educational” portions, he seems to make the left invincible in their organization. Rush educates while showing their buffoonery, mocking them while fighting them. Personally, I much prefer Rush’s approach.
I think Beck is a huckster.
Rush is trying to promote conservatism, Beck is a huckster selling himself.
Not all, and not a majority thought that way. Yet the criticisms and views I described were often expressed by conservatives. The potency of Limbaugh and talk radio was not apparent at the start.
I heard Limbaugh himself say that Buckley’s support did much to settle qualms about him and talk radio.
I like both, and I think Limbaugh is far shrewder than Beck about operational politics. Yet Beck has a following.
I will admit that I am really disappointed in Glenn. SO he wants everyone to accept homosexuality, and he is publicly mocking someone who is really scared.
I don’t agree with Alex Jones, I just see someone who is about as freaked out as I felt for a few days. I feel sorry for Alex.
Glenn should re-think his actions, as of late.
Why not say he disagrees with Alex and show some compassion.
I am bummed out at Glenn. Honestly, I was listening every day, and now I don’t listen to him anymore.
If Beck has recently declared himself a libertarian, does he still get to decide who’s conservative enough?
Alex Jones flipped the script on Piers Morgan, one way or the other. I don’t know much about Jones, but he successfully avoided being corralled into a ‘debate’ that he ably pointed out was no debate where one of those involved is also the moderator as well as controls the venue. I cringed when Jones put on a British accent, but he did use the time he had to get points across to people otherwise not exposed to them. Hopefully some of them can see past the distractions. And Morgan, for all his assertions of trying to keep Jones on issue (Piers’ issue, Piers’ way), was quick to bring up September 11th for what looked like no other reason than to try to discredit anything else he said, and he wouldn’t have done that unless he thought he had to.
My husband is Jewish and an attorney. He find Rush much more appealing that Beck. In fact I doubt he likes Beck at all. I guess it just depends on which Jewish attorney you’re talking too.
Beck can be an acquired taste. My friends liked the way that Beck was on TV during the evening and that their daughters first started watching and asking why they were not hearing what Beck and his guests were saying in school.
You were very specific, it was we National Review readers and Buckley fans who were disdainful of Fox News and Rush Limbaugh, and talk radio.
That wasn’t true about us. We enjoyed Rush Limbaugh immediately, and I don’t recall anybody being disdainful of Fox news, although I couldn’t see it myself, you make us sound like a bunch of white wine sipping dainties.
My larger point is that Beck has a following that adds to conservative strength. Taking a clue from Buckley, we ought not to be too critical of Beck on stylistic grounds.
I read your posts, you must be a kid or something if you think that the 1990s was long ago, many of us had been watching firing line and reading National Review for decades by then.
We Buckley fans and National Review readers and firing line watchers liked Rush Limbaugh and Fox news from the beginning, You sound out of touch with the majority of conservatives of the time.
Beck is an idiot and a hustler, and you are still out of touch.
Exactly...that is his job. The only thing missing is the clown nose.
Before Limbaugh, national commercial talk radio was the province of ostensibly nonpolitical professional talkers like Larry King. Local talk hosts were characteristically rude and obnoxious toward callers, with programs loaded up with stunts and guest appearances. Conservatives rarely found commercial talk radio worth listening to, and there was no national conservative talk radio program.
As Limbaugh describes the start of his run as a local political talker in Sacramento, he was a DJ and the only person who believed that he could make a political show work. Station management agreed to a brief trial run based on his promise to depart without a contract fight if the show failed. Management wanted rid of him and were delighted to have him offer such an easy way out.
Even after Limbaugh was a success in Sacramento, in California syndication, and then in New York on local ABC radio, his program was initially a tough sell to potential backers for national syndication, even with attractive audience numbers. After all, the media business is rife with personalities who have a brief run and then implode, become boring, or are overtaken by imitators.
Again, Limbaugh himself has described how important Bill Buckley's support was to his favorable reception by National Review and the conservative establishment and in building a national conservative audience. I recall approving comments about Limbaugh in National Review as leading me to listen when his program first came to local radio.
Similarly, Fox New took time to draw viewers away from the broadcast evening news and from CNN. Audience habits and expectations matter. Fox News was not just conservative, but it was different in other ways, Washington centric, with less in the way of coverage of stories from other parts of the country than its competitors offered.
As for Beck, he has an audience and is apparently successful in his Internet TV operation. Beck's personality and radio show (and no doubt his Internet show) have an element of volatility that mark him as a work in progress. I wish Beck success, and if his Internet TV operation makes good money, it will bring a wave of imitators and help to further undermine the broadcast and cable networks.
Of course Buckley liked Rush and years later Fox News from the start, just like we readers of National Review did.
Conservatives, Buckley fans, watchers of Firing line, and readers of National Review liked Rush and Fox from the start, that is why you can only keep repeating yourself and aren’t posting any facts.
Beck is a huckster who went national more than a decade ago and will always be seen as bizarre and unstable, and as a hustler.
Brother David was also surprised that his brother was so much less serious on air than he was in person. And there are conservatives still who regard Rush as a mere entertainer -- not recognizing that he is better described as a shrewd (and entertaining) conservative political analyst and commentator.
Early on, Rush had commercial missteps, like the sucking sound, followed by a distant scream, that he used to abort callers he disliked, and the requirement that women callers have their picture on file with the show. Complaints from affiliates ended both practices.
And, to state the obvious, Limbaugh, Fox News, and Beck are all obsessed about finding and keeping the attention and loyalty of their audience. They all hustle for ratings. Beck even describes himself as a radio clown.
I have been listening to Rush since his third day of going national and you are full of it about conservatives and Rush and Fox news.
You just seem out of touch, and want to insist that you are somehow representative of we conservatives, which is a joke, you don't even seem to like us judging by your ramblings and bizarre claims that we were too snooty for Rush and Fox News, until we found out that Buckley liked them, and although they were 8 years apart.
Just as Limbaugh, talk radio, and Fox News prompted some initial disdain from the old Bill Buckley/Firing Line/National Review crowd
According to you, first we of the National Review crowd had to be told that it was OK to become one of Rush's 22 million listeners, and then 8 years later, after eight years of Rush and the 1994 Gingrich revolution, we then needed to told that it was OK to watch Fox news.
Alhough I prefer Limbaugh to Beck and have Fox News on most of the time, individual tastes vary and there are also generational differences.
Last election season, I worked for several weeks with a well-respected, long-established conservative political media consultant of more than four decades experience. He dislikes Fox News though as too repetetive and superficial.
Another, much younger conservative political consultant I also worked with last election season wore flip flops, had a visible tat on his upper arm, and played rap music while he worked -- but tuned to Beck's show when it came on.
So, back to my essential point: Beck has an audience that adds to conservative strength.
"Before Limbaugh, national commercial talk radio was the province of ostensibly nonpolitical professional talkers like Larry King."
So for almost a decade, conservatives had to wait for Buckley's approval before we could get our noses out of the air and accept Rush in 1988, or Fox News in 1996?
What a load, and Beck has been around for more than 10 years, the man is a gadfly hustler.
You don't seem to know much about it, and you don't know anything about Larry King, since you don't realize that he was a liberal talk show host on radio, not "nonpolitical".
You seem to think that by just continuing saying it, that you can create a false history, and even change what your original claims were.
Rush EXPLODED onto the scene, and conservatives INSTANTLY showed up by the millions, we didn't even know such audience numbers existed at the time.
Conservatives were never resistant to Fox News, ever.
I think you are just out of touch.
Aside from shifting your Fox claims to today instead of 1996, you seem to not know that tattoos, and long hair, and beer and guns and trailer houses, and military service and blue collar work, or whatever else you seem to not associate with conservatives, is actually very common with conservatives.
Are you a New York lawyer or some such thing?
Out of touch? Guilty; and I am a lawyer and political consultant, in Florida. But, to make the obvious point, I think that, compared to the population at large, tats and long hair are relatively uncommon among National Review subscribers.
Now we are back to purely National Review subscribers.
The ones that you claim had to wait for Buckley to reveal that he was a fan of the Rush Limbaugh show before they would listen to the conservative talk show themselves, and then many years later had to wait for Buckley approval again, before they would watch a conservative alternative of CNN.
Well I have been reading National Review, probably longer than you unless you started in the 1960s also.
As a long time NR subscriber before they endorsed Romney in 2007, I just recently donated my hair to cancer patients.
I don’t know if you realize how diverse the conservative world is , and how diverse Buckley’s audience was, or how wrong you are about conservative reactions to Rush Limbaugh and Fox news.
As it happens, I may well have subscribed to National Review before you did.
Conservatives instantly flocked to Rush by the millions, creating radio numbers that we could not have imagined when the liberal “King “ of radio was measuring his number one show by the hundreds of thousands.
Conservatives also instantly flocked to Fox News, the first conservative news station, I don't know what dilettantes and out of touch elitists did, you tell us that they would only listen, or watch what Bill Buckley approved of. You sound like one of those liberals who seem to be speaking about a foreign people when they mention conservatives.
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