Skip to comments.Bracken: Stick To Your Guns!
Posted on 01/13/2013 4:07:27 AM PST by Perseverando
I posted this elsewhere, but I like it, so here it is. All of my stuff you feel has merit, please feel free to repost or clip anything I write, with or w/o attribution, I could not care any less about that. If my words are ammo, Fire for effect.
Here it is.
Stick to your guns, no matter what.
If they come to take them by force, they have declared war on the Constitution, and on you. At that point, war is joined, just as it was on another big gun confiscation raid on April 19, 1775. If it was legal in 2012, its legal in 2013 and it will be forever. If they say otherwise, they are liars and traitors and oath breakers and domestic enemies.
If you are disarmed and led away in cuffs, are you so sure youll be bailed out? And not taken to a new place with new rules?
Every survivor of every genocide says the same: when they come to take your guns, shoot them. Make them work for it, and THEIR system is overwhelmed, because they dont have 20 million FLEAs to do armed battles all over the country, instead of nice polite arrest raids like those that that Glen Ghandi Beck envisions, with the NRA lawyers throwing your bail and suing the pants off the .gov.
Its like the Solzhenitzn paragraph how we burned later in the camps because they didnt resist the GRU/KGB in the lobbies and stairwells with axes and knives.
Entire divisions of Russian troops hiked home from WW1 in 1917/18, carrying their rifles and swords and other sidearms. Very early on, Lenin decreed that public safety demanded they all be turned in, under penalty of death. And so they were disarmed, but not the Party members! Then came the purges, the Great Terror, the gulags, and tens of millions of dead. So well preserved was the fiction, that most Russians, when arrested, thought, Gee, there must be some mistake. I havent done anything wrong. Theyll let me go in a few hours. (Wrong anwer.)
If you give up your arms, you are placing your entire trust in the permanent future benevolence of the U.S. govt. This trust is invariably fatal. The German gun registration laws and limits on military weapons (then, Mausers etc) were put in in the 1920s Weimar Republic,years before Hitler.
They were all common sense and reasonable gun control laws, Im sure todays liberals would agree 100%. Then Hitler comes along, and uses the list to first disarm, and then ghetto-ize or deport and finally gas the Jews and others, killing millions.
Genocide, using the common sense gun registration lists to locate their most dangerous enemies. But first, they just come to pick up the weapons. No trouble, foks! They come for the mass arrests later, when the people are disarmed.
Millions of Polish Jews were rounded up this way, when the German police only needed a 1-10 ratio to thier victims. 100 German military police, 4-fs in their forties, bottom of the barrel conscripts, would round up and murder a town of a thousand. Force them to gather, then march groups at gunpoint into the woods for execution. A 1-10 ratio means the killer police are not worried at all. The victims were all disarmed. If they were armed, every village would requre a major military effort.
Im sorry, I do NOT trust that our .gov wont turn as mean as the old USSR to its class enemies, the MSMs duly appointed scapegoats, us white racist tea-party terrorists, the bitter clingers.
Folks, they perceive that we are reactionary forces not only standing in the way of social progress and liberal utopia, we are actively blocking it. That makes us pure Evil, since their plan for utopia is pure Good. That means they will come to feel totally justified in seeking a final solution to the bitter clinger question.
And once their mortal enemies (thats us) are disarmed and helpless the temptation grows to simply do away with them. Bill Ayers thought they would need to murder 10% of the population to achieve their utopia.
As it was with the Turkish Armenians, German Jews, Russian Kulaks, Chinese, Ugandans, Guatemalens, Cambodians, Cubans, Rwandans, and on and on, historys lesson is clear:
STICK TO YOUR GUNS!
Travis, I’ve seen it in several of your posts in other articles, but I thought it needed it’s own home.
I don’t disagree with anything you said. The leftists would kill us in a heart beat if they thought they could get away with it. They hate us and subjugating us is their end game. Consider that before you register your firearms with them.
I see no reason one should not be prepared to shoot.The 2nd amendment and the constitution is enforceable by ordinary citizes.
However, it would indeed be wise to organize committees of safety in evry County across America.
The war has already begun:
I’m flattered, but it wasn’t me saying it. The article is by Matt Bracken, aka Travis McGee, as all of us here at FR know.
I too believe that the assault gun is merely a way for the Obama regime to get it’s foot in the door to ban one class of weapon before moving on to banning all guns per the usual government incrementalism method. Funny that I just went to a seminar about the Constitution which laid out all of events and history which led up to it starting all the way back in the 9th century in England due to the people living under extreme tyranny where they would be mutilated and killed if they did not pay taxes or bow to the kings rule. There is no doubt the founding fathers thought long and hard drafting The Constitution borrowing concepts from the experiences of their ancestors who had suffered severely under tyrannical rule. The instructor made it clear using specific examples that our children are not being taught the truth about our history and the suffering that the people had under tyranny and the concept that man will continue to make the same mistakes over and over again no matter what the time period because of his very nature that will never change as long as he doesn’t heed the mistakes and patterns that will reoccur because of it. She also pointed ou that in every instance where the citizens were disarmed, tyranny and oppression followed.
Now I know this is no news to FRpers but it was to many of the teenagers and young adults at the seminar. I think The true story of The Constitution should be taught on liberal college campuses everywhere...:)
the Swiss don’t have our “gang” problem however. That “gang” problem is really the elephant in the room that nobody wants to talk about in this debate on guns and violence. But I don’t see how you can have an honest debate about guns and violence without discussing “gang” violence.
Thanks. Justice is most efficiently served by the intended victim turning the force on the anti-life, criminal/thug/totalitarian whenever possible. Witness history. Many collective failures. Witness current events. Many individual successes. Life, liberty and its necessary corollary...the ability to defend it.
Prepare. Persevere. BANG-TO-THE-TOP!
As I've stated in the past and even used it as a tagline for several months: "Gun control? It's the OBOTS who are filling up prisons for violent crimes, not the Tea Party."
Look at the gun free democrat political strongholds if you want to see where the violent gun crimes are taking place. These urban "law and order free zones" are created, funded and maintained by Obama's like minded comrades which you and I help maintain with our tax dollars.
We won’t have a “gang problem” either, after we blow them away.
Special Thanks to Pookie18 Todays Toons
The "Marxist/Communists are masters of the first two (propaganda and stealing elections.) They generally refuse to participate in the third, and can't wait to exercise the fourth as soon as law abiding citizens are disarmed.
Guess those good folks at Ruby Ridge missed the memo.
The take over started some time ago but is now getting into second or third gear and rapidly accelerating.
If we put our trust in government, what could go wrong? I am confident that Obama would protect each and every American citizen with the same enthusiasm and brilliance that he brought to the protection of Ambassador Christopher Stevens, and the results of disarming ourselves would be no worse than the results of disarming the consulate guards in Benghazi.
I have heard it said on other forums and believe there will come a time when people start registering the names and addresses of LEO’s. They need to lay their head on a pillow each night.
This is not a threat of any form; rather, it is stating the cold, hard truths. People are not going to walk gently into the good night and allow the Constitution to get trampled. As Andrew Napolitano stated, the 2A is the right to shoot tyrants, not deer.
People are waking up to this.
Stick to your guns--no matter what!
That version was clipped from a Free Republic reply that I wrote very quickly. This is a better version.
Stick to your guns—no matter what!
By Matt Bracken, January, 2013
If they come to take away your guns by force, they have declared war on the Constitution, and on you. At that point, war is joined, just as it was during another famous gun confiscation raid on April 19, 1775.
If a firearm was legal in 2012, under the 2nd Amendment its still legal in 2013 and it will be legal forever, no matter what so-called “executive orders” are handed down or new “laws” are passed by a panicking Congress. Those who say otherwise are liars and traitors and oath breakers and domestic enemies.
Every survivor of every genocide says the same thing: when they come to take your guns, shoot them! Make them take them, and their system of repression will be overwhelmed, because they dont have millions of jack-booted thugs ready to do armed battles all over the country.
If you give up your arms, you are placing your entire trust in the permanent future benevolence of the U.S. government. This trust is invariably fatal: ask the American Indians about those treaties that were guaranteed forever.
History is clear, with numerous examples, of the danger of gun registration and gun control. The German gun registration laws were enacted duuring the 1920s Weimar Republic, years before Hitler came to power. German gun registration was mandated in the name of “public safety.” Note that phrase well. Im sure today’s liberal utopians would agree that they were “common sense” and “reasonable” gun control laws. Don’t we all want “public safety?”
Then years later Hitler rose to power, and used the gun registration lists to first disarm the Jews, and then to force them into starving, overcrowded ghettos, and finally into mass graves and gas chambers. The Nazi genocide of the Jews was enabled by those “common sense” German gun registration lists.
Millions of Polish Jews were rounded up by German military police battallions. The German military police only needed a 1-10 ratio to their victims. A mere 100 German military police, (4-Fs in their forties, bottom of the barrel conscripts, not rabid SS), would round up and murder a town of a thousand Jews over the course of one day.
The Germans would force them to sit tightly packed together on town plazas or sporting fields under the watch of only a handful of armed guards. The Germans would then march groups of twenty or thirty at a time at gunpoint into the woods for point-blank executions. A 1-10 ratio means the military police were not worried at all about meeting resistance. The victims were all previously disarmed.
During the Armenian Genocide from 1915-23, two million Christian Turks were exterminated by being marched at gun point into burning deserts with no food or water. The Turkish gun registration laws were enacted in 1911, in the name of “public safety.” The genocide began a few years later, after the Armenians’ firearms were confiscated.
Entire divisions of Russian troops hiked home from WW1 in 1917/18, carrying their rifles and swords and other sidearms. Very early on, Lenin decreed that “public safety” required they all be turned in, under penalty of death. And so the Russian war veterans were disarmedbut not the Communist Party members. Then came the Soviet purges, the Great Terror, the Gulags, and tens of millions of disarmed Russians were murdered.
Im sorry, but I do NOT trust that our federal government wont turn as brutally tyrannical as the old USSR at some point in the future, perhaps after an economic crash or other major crisis. The Obama regime already perceives that we “Bitter Clingers” are “reactionaries” who are not only standing in the way of social progress, we are actively blocking it.
That makes us pure Evil, since their plan for a socialist utopia is pure Good. And that means they will ultimately come to feel totally justified in seeking a “final solution to the Bitter Clinger problem,” in the same way that the Turks, Soviets and Nazis did. Can anyone guarantee Americans that tyranny will never visit our shores?
If the socialists in power are scapegoating us as national villains now, what will they do when they have no reason to fear us whatsoever? Did the Turks, Soviets or Nazis treat their despised minorities better, or worse, after disarming them? Think!
And once a despots enemies (thats us) are disarmed and helpless...the temptation grows to simply do away with them. Obama mentor and ghost-autobiographer, the Weather Underground bomber Bill Ayers, stated that they would need to murder ten percent of the American population to achieve their socialist nirvana. Thirty million bitter clingers. Guess who that is?
Don’t relearn this bitter lesson the hard way. Learn from history’s many examples. As it was for the Turkish Armenians, German Jews, Russian Kulaks, Chinese, Ugandans, Guatemalens, Cambodians, Cubans, Rwandans, and on and on, historys lesson is crystal clear:
Stick to your guns—no matter what!
“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? After all, you knew ahead of time that those bluecaps were out at night for no good purpose. And you could be sure ahead of time that youd be cracking the skull of a cutthroat. Or what about the Black Maria sitting out there on the street with one lonely chauffeur what if it had been driven off or its tires spiked. The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalins thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!”
~~Alexander SolzhenitsynSee More
For every one of ours, we need to pledge that one of theirs suffers the same fate.
Thanks for sharing this article. I'm sure that the naysayers will be along shortly.
My best recent photomemes, in a handy format.
“So what’s the problem with national gun registration?”
“AK-47s belong in the hands of soldiers, not criminals.” —Obama
“Only the police and military need semi-automatic pistols.”
“When does a soft tyranny turn hard?” (Shindler’s List)
Drudge: Obama threatens EO on guns
Only bad people need guns! (cartoon, not mine, but excellent.)
Beck runs a cult for “nice ladies” he would be useful if he would point out to these “nice ladies” how the gun ban tyrants are the mean nasty people. Maybe you could get a guest slot on one of his media outlets and make this point clear.
The problem with that clever message is that it always omits the cash box.
Many people doubt that our government could be so evil.
They already are. These liberals know darn well that the unborn are human beings no matter what they claim. They push for every possible means of killing them and as many of them as they can.
Winston Churchill said something like this: If we are not willing to fight them while we are well armed and stand a good chance of winning, we will eventually have to fight them when we have no hope of winning.
I should look up the quote as it is a lot better said than this.
The gang problem is mostly an outgrowth of our lack of control of the southern border. We could easily secure the border, which would solve two problems at once: illegal immigration, and drug smuggling. The fact that it isn't happening is very telling.
Instead of emotionally, let’s approach this from from a position of realism and practicality.
First of all, who are “they?”
“They”, under current circumstances, would be federal law enforcement officers (LEOs) and non-LEO bureaucrats who have recently been authorized to be armed and carry out SWAT operations against those that violate their agencies regulations, as well as military personnel. And importantly, private corporations working as government contractors, but with the force of law behind them.
The reliability of all of “them” is questionable, and it would profit us all to find out exactly *how* reliable they are, and how many would refuse to carry out a “legal”, but unconstitutional, gun confiscation. At the federal level, and assuming cooperation from some state and local authorities as well.
The second question, and an important one, is “How?”
Not the only example of a national police-state scheme, but the best one in US history, is that of the authoritarian New Deal agency, the the Agricultural Adjustment Administration. It only lasted 3 years before being declared unconstitutional, but in that time terrorized and impoverished tens of thousands of farm families.
“The AAA attempted to boost the wholesale price of agricultural produce through an artificial scarcity initiative, whereby crops were plowed up or left to rot, and six million pigs were killed and discarded.”
Because of the public outcry, the government then used the artificially created shortages to reward Democrat party allies, by giving them food to distribute and coal for fuel. This was done by a different organization, the Federal Surplus Relief Corporation, run by the same people who had run the AAA. For the Republicans, nothing.
Importantly, while this was, in effect, a government agency, it was not set up as a purely socialist government agency, as was done in Stalin’s Soviet Union, which had proved disastrous; but instead used the fascist economics model of a “public-private partnership” to achieve the same ends.
That is, in PPPs, the government typically directs a corporation to do some government scheme, but then lets the corporation actually execute the government’s plan. This allows the government to get the full impact of its scheme, without taking the responsibility for it.
Importantly, government partnerships are uniquely dangerous to gun owners, *precisely* because the corporation is directly paid via contract, with taxpayer money. So there are no market forces involved, and such corporations can be told *who* to hire.
The government can order them to hire convicted violent federal felons, on “work release” from prison, and it can issue work permits to foreigners (mercenaries), to work for these corporations as well.
Possibly. Theoretically. However, improbably, it is still good to imagine the possibilities, and how to counter them. Because, as Napoleon observed, a static defense is slow suicide.
So imagine what they might do, based on what they did before, and keep your eyes peeled for what they might try next.
And their family. Nothing would destroy morale more.
Not just one:
If you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed, if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly, you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a small chance of survival. There may even be a worse case: you may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.
Thanks. That is it.
Yes Winston did say it just a little better than I did.
Sir Winston said most things better than most of us could.
Doorstep Stand BTTT
Please circulate this - the history piece at the end is not very well understood by most Americans, and hidden by our so called “mainstream press” which is not mainstream by any means.
My permit to carry a visible or concealed weapon is the 2nd Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America.
Please take time to read this and pay particular attention to “A Little Gun History” about half way down.
Why Carry a Gun??
My old grandpa said to me “Grandson there comes a time in every man’s life when he stops bustin’ knuckles and starts bustin’ caps. Usually this occurs when he becomes too old to take a butt whuppin’.
I don’t carry a gun to kill people. I carry a gun to keep from being killed.
I don’t carry a gun to scare people. I carry a gun because sometimes this world can be a scary place.
I don’t carry a gun because I’m paranoid. I carry a gun because there are real threats in the world.
I don’t carry a gun because I’m evil. I carry a gun because I have lived long enough to see the evil in the world.
I don’t carry a gun because I hate the government. I carry a gun because I understand the limitations of government.
I don’t carry a gun because I’m angry. I carry a gun so that I don’t have to spend the rest of my life hating myself for failing to be prepared.
I don’t carry a gun because I want to shoot someone. I carry a gun because I want to die at a ripe old age in my bed, and not on a sidewalk somewhere tomorrow afternoon.
I don’t carry a gun to make me feel like a man. I carry a gun because men (and women should) know how to take care of themselves and the ones they love.
I don’t carry a gun because I feel inadequate. I carry a gun because unarmed and facing three armed thugs, I am inadequate.
I don’t carry a gun because I love it. I carry a gun because I love life and the people who make it meaningful to me.
Police protection is an oxymoron. Free citizens must protect themselves. Police do not protect you from crime, they usually just investigate the crime after it happens and then call someone in to clean up the mess.
A LITTLE GUN HISTORY...
In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control.
From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
You won’t see this data on the U.S. evening news, or hear politicians disseminating this information.
Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws adversely affect only the law-abiding citizens.
Take note my fellow Americans, before it’s too late. The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind them of this history lesson.
With guns, we are ‘citizens’. Without them, we are ‘subjects’.
During WW II the Japanese decided not to invade America because they knew most Americans were ARMED.
If you value your freedom, please spread this Anti Gun-Control message to all of your friends.
The purpose of fighting is to win.
There is no possible victory in defense.
The sword is more important than the shield, and skill is more important than either.
The final weapon is the brain.
All else is supplemental.
SWITZERLAND ISSUES EVERY HOUSEHOLD A GUN.
SWITZERLAND’S GOVERNMENT TRAINS EVERY ADULT, TO WHOM THEY
ISSUE A RIFLE.
SWITZERLAND HAS THE LOWEST GUN RELATED CRIME RATE OF ANY
CIVILIZED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD.
IT’S A NO BRAINER. DON’T LET OUR GOVERNMENT WASTE MILLIONS
OF OUR TAX DOLLARS IN AN EFFORT TO MAKE ALL LAW ABIDING
CITIZENS BE EASY TARGETS.
I’m a firm believer in the 2nd. Amendment.
If you are too, please forward.
Do the current “kids killed by guns” statistics filter out teens in gangs killed by drive-by shootings and other gang activity?
I just got an email news letter from my Congressman, Jeff Miller. He basically made it plain that he is going to stand up for our second amendment rights.
Of course his district is composed mostly of military and rednecks so that was no surprise since he likes to be re-elected every 2 years.
Some stats include people up to 25 years old as ‘children’. A twenty-year-old gang banger shot while robbing a convenience store is a ‘child victim of gun violence’.
“The government can order them to hire convicted violent federal felons, on work release from prison, and it can issue work permits to foreigners (mercenaries), to work for these corporations as well.”
“The government can order them to hire convicted violent federal felons, on work release from prison, and it can issue work permits to foreigners (mercenaries), to work for these corporations as well.”
Whoever said that probably has a lot of EX-girlfriends.
Little ponytailed girl MURDERED in cold blood by government thugs...along with other children who dared to have the guts to demand freedom... That’s somebody’s BABY GIRL....
Those that want to do this need to remember that this sh*t works BOTH ways...