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What were you saying about a few hanging chads?

Posted on 01/13/2013 9:46:51 AM PST by Libloather

TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: chads; elections; fraud; hussein
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1 posted on 01/13/2013 9:46:57 AM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather

Fake election. Fake American. Fake President.

2 posted on 01/13/2013 9:49:00 AM PST by BipolarBob (Happy Hunger Games! May the odds be ever in your favor.)
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To: Libloather

The claim that a particular count of votes is a “mathematical and statistical impossibility” is false.

You want to say it is unlikely? Go ahead. But neither statistics nor mathematics would disprove a particular outcome.

You might as well say that flipping a coin 100 times and never coming up tails is “impossible”.

Sadly, too many people have never paid attention to what is happening in the inner city; there are places where nobody would ever vote republican.

3 posted on 01/13/2013 9:53:58 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Libloather

Hmmm - should have made “Hanging Chad” my porn star name.

4 posted on 01/13/2013 9:53:58 AM PST by Hardastarboard (The Liberal ruling class hates me. The feeling is mutual.)
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To: Hardastarboard

Not funny at all since 1999.

5 posted on 01/13/2013 9:56:38 AM PST by bmwcyle (We have gone over the cliff and we are about to hit the bottom)
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To: Libloather

The first two are improbabilities, not impossibilities.

6 posted on 01/13/2013 9:56:45 AM PST by mnehring
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To: Libloather; All

Of course it was voter fraud.

Surely no one believes America voted to reelect the Marxist/Muslim usurper- the worst president in American history?

Can't you just imagine the above was the scene with Obama and his Commie staff after stealing the election through voter fraud- while Conservatives blame Romney, argue, point fingers, blather on about who to run in four years, 'starting a new party', and try to figure out how to suck up to minorities the 'next time'?

Next time? What makes them think the massive voter fraud in this last farce of an election won't be repeated? If we don't clean up our voting system, there may not be a next time. We may not see another Republican president in our lifetime

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Map from Barack Obama Voter Fraud 2012

What most refuse to acknowledge is that it was unlikely that ANYBODY could have beaten the voter fraud planned and perpetrated by the criminal Obama machine. They seem to prefer pointing fingers, blaming Romney and blathering on about who to run in 2016 and how to suck up to the minorities.

>Polls indicated that Romney was going to win the election.

>The economy is close to Great Depression era conditions, and unemployment is almost as high as when Obama entered office.

>Economic conditions became so dire after Obama took office it prompted the rise of an entire new movement, the Tea Party.

>Presidents rarely win reelection when the economy is in the tank.

>Mitt knew it too, when he was met by several thousand in that parking garage cheering him when he arrived unannounced at that airport, and he put his hand over his heart and said, 'This is how you know you've won'.

So how did Romney lose a race that numerous reputable polls and pundits predicted would be an easy win, based on historical patterns?

Massive voter fraud.

That and no other reason

Almost every major Conservative website has put out an article charging voter fraud- Breitbart, American Thinker, Atlas Shrugs, WND, The Blaze, Front Page Magazine, Fox News, The Daily Caller, Town Hall, Human Events, Canada Free Press...

We cannot wait for 2014 and 2016 to regroup and figure out new strategies. By then it will be too late. The Marxist/Muslim usurper will have completed his planned distruction of America. That's what people fail to understand.

We must act NOW.

Start with the election. If we let the Rats get away with this massive voter fraud, we're no better than a bananna republic.

We must keep digging and pounding him every day, in every way we can- phony birth certificate, Benghazi, Fast and Furious, his hidden life, records....


Col Allen West; "I don't want to see America become like Zimbabwe where people don’t trust their electoral process. If we cannot trust the integrity of the voting system then we are no longer a free republic".

Col West has opened the door.

We must fight election fraud.

It falls on ‘We the People’.

Silence is consent


The website,'Barack Obama Vote Fraud 2012' is keeping a running account of cases of voter fraud and what to do about it:

Visit the site- Here



Photo of SOMALIANS brought to Ohio voting stations by the busload, 95% of whom did not speak English, and told to vote for Obama, straight Dem ticket- Here

'Human Events', report pollwatcher eyewitness to busload of Somalians at Ohio poll, spoke no English, told to vote Obama Here

Republican pole watchers; busloads of Somalians brought in Here

THE JEWISH TASK FORCE makes a excellent case that Mitt defeated Obama in 2012, if not for fraud. Here

Another poll watcher observes voter fraud Here

Spanish Company Associated w/Geo. Soros Will “Count” America's Votes Overseas In November Here


WND List of voter fraud reports Here
ATLAS SHRUGS voter fraud list. Here

Hannity and Col Allan West slam voter fraud on 'Hannity' after the election Nov 12- Here


Believe it or not, there ARE patriots out there who are going to FIGHT Obama's reelection- unlike the spineless Republicans who remain silent!

Visit the website; 'The Competent Conservative'


'These elections are NOT certified yet. The only way to get this investigated, much less recounted or overturned, is through the Secretary of State of each of the five key states: Florida, Virginia, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. EVEN IF YOU ARE IN ANOTHER STATE you can help. But it won’t do any good to dilute our effort to challenge California or Michigan or other states. Until a major group gets involved to do more, here is the plan: Contact the Secretary of State of the state in question. See contact information below... '

Visit the website, 'Halt Voter Fraud':


'This election is not over - YET. Obama has not been elected by the Electoral College - YET. The Presidential election is being stolen from us with "Chicago Style" thuggery - and we can STOP the thieves in their tracks. But we do not have time on our side. This is our LAST chance. Don't give up. We must act now.

If massive voter fraud has occured as alleged by so many, and if the state vote counts include these FRAUDULENT votes, then is it logical to say that the entire state vote is COMPROMISED and can't be trusted? 59,000,000 Americans might agree!

The state vote is used to determine the allocation of Electors in the Electoral College which actually elects the President and Vice President.

If the vote count is FRAUDULENT, FLAWED, and CAN'T BE TRUSTED - and if the Electors have been FRAUDULENTLY allocated based on FLAWED vote counts - then WE CANNOT ALLOW THE GOVERNORS TO SIGN THEIR CERTIFICATES of ASCERTAINMENT on December 17th. We can stop this if we ACT IMMEDIATELY.


Patriots must rally NOW in the State Capitols of Harrisburg,PA - Richmond, VA - Tallahassee, FL - Columbus, OH, and Madison, WI ****** MASSIVE RALLIES ** *** PATRIOT LEADERS ORGANIZE YOUR LOCAL EFFORTS NOW, coordinate with the other PATRIOT groups as they also rally, let us know who you are and how you will respond, how we can help.

Remember the Battle of Trenton?

We can make HISTORY TODAY.'

More- Here


Obama Voter Fraud on FaceBook- Here


Sign this petition- almost 117,000 and counting -cards, email- Here

Sign the ‘We The People’ petition. It has 60,000 signatures and counting- Here

Click and sign the petition for a recount Here-


Must watch videos!

VIDEO-- Programmer Testifies About Rigging Elections With Vote Counting- Here

VIDEO- Illegal Aliens Caught Voting and Stealing Elections In Florida In Vast Numbers- Here

VIDEO- MICHAEL SAVAGE: How Obama fixed the 2012 election- Here

VIDEO- Massive voter fraud discovered in April- Here

VIDEO- Whistle blower speaks out about voter fraud- Here


Voter fraud from Tea Party: Here

The American Dream- 22 Signs That Voter Fraud Is Wildly Out Of Control And The Election Was A Sham: Here

Town Hall : Obama Likely Won The Election Through Voter Fraud: Here

American Thinker: Was The Election Stolen:? Here

WSVN-TV Almost 1K Ballots Found In Broward Elections Warehouse: Here

Pundit Press; In Florida Obama Got Over 99% In Broward County Precincts: Here

Natural 19,605 to Zero IS Statistical Proof Of Outright Vote Fraud in 2012 Presidential Election: Here

Realville, USA: The Great Election Robbery of 2012? Here

WND: Here's How Touchscreens Killed Romney Votes: Here

The American Dream: Election Fraud? Obama Won More Than 99% Of The Vote in More Than 100 Ohio Precincrs: Here

WND: The Big List Of Voter Fraud Reports: Here

Nachum's List of Voter Fraud: Here


Newt Gingrich 360: Here

Appalachian Forums: Here

Before It's News: Here

WND: Here

Political Outcast: Here

True The Vote: Here

Fox News Insider: Here

Human Events; Here

The Will County News: Here

Fox News: Here

WND: Here

Townhall: Here

Breitbart Here

Accuracy In Media The Left's national voter fraud strategy exposed: Here

Thousands of military votes uncounted or missing: Here

Human Events: Here

Front Page Magazine: Here

The Blaze Here

The Daily Caller: Here

Front Page Magazine Here

Military Voter Protection Project: Here

BreitBart Here

Townhall: Here

Fox News Here

The Blaze Here


The best Obama Exposure site on the net, The Obama File: Here

The United StatesLibrary of Congress has selected for inclusion in its historic collection of Internet materials Here

7 posted on 01/13/2013 9:57:24 AM PST by patriot08 (NATIVE TEXAN (girl type))
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To: Libloather

I think investigations are a waste of time. We got “convictions” of democrat officials for 2010 fraud in Michigan which means they got probation and fines.

I think vote fraud is one of the real reasons Michigan rushed ahead and hammered RTW home. Rather than spend years investigating and in court to get a slap on the wrist, the MI GOP took an axe to the fundraising roots (an estimated $250 million per year)

One thing that I would like to see is Michigan’s electoral votes given according to districts won. That way, if Detroit wants to cheat, let em, it won’t make a bit of difference if they produce a trillion votes.

8 posted on 01/13/2013 10:01:41 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Libloather

Might as well finish off the list while I’m at it.

Some of the claims are overlapping.

The three Ohio claims are overlapping, and are false. Specifically, there were NOT more votes than “eligible voters”, nor did Obama win 108%.

There were more REGISTERED voters than there were eligible voters. That is because they didn’t clean the registered voter roles; a lot of college students were graduated and gone but still on the list, and other people had moved away.

But that many people didn’t vote- in fact, only 57% of the “registered voters” showed up, below average but expected since there were too many registered voters.

Obama didn’t win all of those votes, he won about 51% of that vote.

In Florida, those claims are false as well. Many counties had two ballots per voter (2 pages). People are mistakenly taking BALLOT counts and calling them VOTER counts. If you look at the official results, the reports include the number over voters AND the number of ballots, and it all is as you would expect.

Note that in the 2 months since the election, there has not been a SINGLE case where a voter has come forward to claim that they voted for Romney in one of those many precincts where Romney got no votes.

9 posted on 01/13/2013 10:02:46 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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I understand that in many inner cities there are those who would never vote republican. However, when more than 100% of the registered voters vote, it leads one to suspect that some voted a lot more than once, as Obama, himself suggested his voter do. Democrats may break the law, but if a republican was heard to tell his/her voters to do the same thing, they’d be forced to resign. We have double standard and if we do not FIX this double standard, we are also part of the problem.

Having lived in NYC, and Bedford Stuyvesant at that, there were still people who voted republican. There were many independents. There were MANY CPUSA. So, for one person to get 100% or above is ludicrous. PERIOD. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to tell you that these numbers ARE fraudulent.

10 posted on 01/13/2013 10:04:04 AM PST by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Sadly, too many people have never paid attention to what is happening in the inner city; there are places where nobody would ever vote republican.

In places like Detroit, the fraud is so institutionalized that it doesn't even take an organized effort. The people know how they're expected to vote and the ballot counters know what the outcome has to be. No one has to tell them or encourage them, its just the machine on auto pilot.
11 posted on 01/13/2013 10:05:41 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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I remember seeing Catherine Eglebrock (?) of King Street Patriots/True the Vote (based in Houston) on Glenn Beck's show, just before the election. She seemed confident, as did Glenn, that Romney would be able to pull of a win.

I've been curious about her take of the election results and came across this video where she describes what she thinks took place and how the dims won.

Here's the link.

12 posted on 01/13/2013 10:13:11 AM PST by Jane Long (Philippians 2:11)
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To: Hanging Chad


13 posted on 01/13/2013 10:19:38 AM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: patriot08

I wish you were right. But you aren’t. Obama won because more Americans are bloodsuckers than not. We are finished as a great country.

14 posted on 01/13/2013 10:30:37 AM PST by LifePath
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To: Hardastarboard
...should have made “Hanging Chad” my porn star name.

What is it now?

15 posted on 01/13/2013 10:32:01 AM PST by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: Libloather

This is why I don’t buy the argument Reps and Senators are scared of voting for gun control, with the 2014 election upcoming. I have zero trust in 95% of them, and would not put it beyond this administration to try to give those at risk some security in their re-election.

16 posted on 01/13/2013 10:34:11 AM PST by Chipper (You can't kill an Obamazombie by destroying the brain...they didn't have one to begin with.)
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To: Shery

There were no places where anybody got more than 100% of the registered vote.

In the one instance cited here, every fact was wrong. The reality — Obama got 51% of the vote in a location where 57% of the “registered voters” voted, or 65% of the “eligible” voters.

There are many places where they have done a lousy job of cleaning up the voter registration roles, so you will find registrations exceeding the number of eligible voters.

This happens especially in college towns, because kids will register to vote, then they will graduate and move away, but nobody bothers to remove them.

Theoretically, these college students could come back to the college, and vote, because their names would be on the roles. But having that possibility is a far cry from showing it has happened.

I checked out one precinct in Richmond that was called out in one of these many “fraud” lists; I found that the precinct has historically never voted republican; in fact, it is in an area so democrat that there was no republican running for a state house seat in that precinct for one election. And as far as statewide, the total republicans voting in that precinct was never more than 6; in 2012, 3 voted for Romney.

The real question is why anybody is surprised that there are inner-city tenement house precincts, 100% black, where there would be nobody voting for Romney. We get hardly any black votes to begin with, and these are the poor, government-dependent people that are most likely to vote democrat anyway.

And there aren’t any republicans looking to live in these hell-holes. It’s not like nice neighborhoods which are mostly republican, but which are attractive enough that idiot liberals WANT to move in. None of us are looking to try to integrate a slum.

17 posted on 01/13/2013 10:45:00 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: cripplecreek

It’s not fraud if legal voters cast legal votes, even if they do so because they “know what they are supposed to do”, or they know “what to expect”.

Maybe the conspiracists should charge “voter intimidation” instead of “voter fraud” if their point is that there are black welfare republicans who are intimidated into voting democrat. I don’t think there really are that many black welfare republicans, but all I KNOW is that they aren’t VOTING republican and they aren’t coming out to claim that they DID vote republican and their votes were rejected.

I wish someone would take the philidelphia claim seriously enough that they would run the precinct numbers for the past 12 years, to show how these precinct never vote republican.

Because I’m sure that is what we will find, but the “charge” is so ridiculous that nobody will even bother to do the investigation.

I would do it myself, but sadly, Philidelpha election results are not well-managed electronically. IT’s easy to get lists of votes by precinct for Ohio and Virginia, but I’m having trouble finding anything for Pennsylvania.

18 posted on 01/13/2013 10:49:55 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

It would statistically improbable that a candidate would get no votes. That would imply error-free voting and mean that not one person made a decision to the contrary. You would have zombies voting if that was the case.

19 posted on 01/13/2013 10:50:28 AM PST by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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People are not statistics. Each person makes a decision about who to vote for. Your claim is that it is statistically impossible that every person living in a building could possible each have chosen to vote for Obama; but the nature of the people who live in that building is that they would vote for Obama.

Elections are not statistical. To some degree, with large enough numbers, we can model them as if they are random variations of a scientific process, but they are not.

Error-free voting isn’t all that hard, when you are voting straight party; some places allow a single mark to vote for party, although I don’t know if Philidelphia is one of those.

And it’s not hard for people to vote “Obama”.

So the argument that Obama voters are so stupid that some of them would have to have mistakenly voted for Romney isn’t very persuasive.

On the other hand, it wouldn’t surprise me if someone was committing fraud in the inner city; if they are, it wasn’t Obama in 2012, it is the democratic party for the past two decades.

In every case where I have been able to compare Obama’s numbers in a precinct with the 2008 and 2004 election numbers, they have been similar. There were dozens of precincts in Ohio in 2008 where McCain got 0 votes, and even many in 2004 where Bush got 0 votes (although I think with Obama being black, there was even more of a reason for the black inner-city population to vote democrat, as we can see by the higher total percent of black votes for Obama than for Kerry in 2004).

In fact, it is easy to disprove the notion that voter error would make it probable that a candidate would get at least one vote — simply look at how many of the non-major candidates get zero votes in thousands of precincts in each state.

If it was “impossible” for there not to be voter error, that voter error should equally spread votes among all candidates. So the total votes received by the worst candidate would establish a maximum baseline for the “error rate” of voting.

There is a website that allows you to look up individual philidelphia precincts, and see the results. It’s not searchable; there is a full database but in it’s text form it also isn’t searchable.

Anyway, I poked around for a while, and found Ward 6 Precinct 12, which in the 2012 general election, gave Romney only 2 votes:

In that same precinct (ward 6, precinct 12), in 2008: Obama=276, McCain=0.

In that same precinct in 2004:, Kerry=176, Bush=7;

In that same precinct, other statewide elections:
2002 Governor: 122 to 3
2006 Governor: 98 to 4 (black republican)
2006 Senate: 95 to 3
2010 Governor: 166 to 2
2012 Senate: 167 to 3

So what we see here is a district that in 2012, barely registered a vote for Romney, but in fact has barely registered a vote for republican since the 2004 presidential election, and even then it was very few republican votes.

I am sure that if someone actually provided the list of wards and precincts where Romney got 0 votes, I’d find that republicans were getting no votes in those precincts in prior elections as well.

Which means it wasn’t some special fraud in 2012 to steal the election from Romney.

20 posted on 01/13/2013 11:22:12 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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