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Drummond: Time to declare state of emergency in Oakland?
Oakland Tribune ^ | 01/12/2013 | Tammerlin Drummond

Posted on 01/13/2013 10:07:22 AM PST by AmericanSamurai

A woman walking her dog at 3 p.m. Friday stumbled upon Larry Lovette lying on the sidewalk near Dimond Park. He had been shot to death. Just one half-hour before that, a 22-year-old man had been fatally shot in the Fruitvale district.

At 4:15 p.m., Eddiebo Rodriguez was shot several times while driving on West Street in West Oakland. Whoever killed him shot up some nearby homes in the process. Thankfully, no one else was injured. Then at 8:20 p.m., police found 17-year-old Ken Harbin shot to death on Hillside Avenue in East Oakland.

The carnage Friday took the insanity into a new stratosphere. Four street killings within six hours. Just like that, we're at six killings in five days. All except one happened in broad daylight.

Here is what that should tell you. The people shooting don't care who sees them or who gets hit.

At what point do we say that we have crossed a threshold, the violence in our city is so out of control that we cannot expect our police department on its own to stop it? That 15 deputies from Alameda County, though welcome, aren't going to cut it. That we don't have the luxury of waiting around for years' worth of police academies to get more police on the street.

That we need to take drastic action to stop the catastrophic loss of life -- mostly young lives.

I believe that time is now. It is time for the Oakland City Council to give serious consideration to declaring a state of emergency.

(Excerpt) Read more at insidebayarea.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: banglist

1 posted on 01/13/2013 10:07:26 AM PST by AmericanSamurai
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To: AmericanSamurai

Another possibility is to let them live their little Third World lives.


2 posted on 01/13/2013 10:11:23 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: AmericanSamurai

The only problem is, the liberals will not allow us to discuss the real causes of most of the violence. A key reason is that so many of these young men are brought up in the baby mama culture, with no father in the home, raised without any values. They feel no remorse about killing people, even innocent people, who get in the way of their gang activity.

These are feral young boys and men we’re talking about. Liberals fixate on guns and other ancillary issues. We’re not allowed to talk about how these kids are being raised, what values they have, or don’t have, etc. We’re not allowed to talk about the baby mama culture, because liberals see that as an affront to “single mothers” everywhere.

There are many issues for which we can’t talk about the real problems. Instead we have to dance around the issues. In this case, liberals think if these gangs don’t have guns that the violence will cease. They also think that somehow the youth gangs will obey restrictive gun laws.


3 posted on 01/13/2013 10:14:07 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Bull’s eye of your assessment. Idiot lefties blame guns, Capitalism, and everything else.


4 posted on 01/13/2013 10:16:32 AM PST by AmericanSamurai
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To: AmericanSamurai

The only people Oakland authorities have any interest in controlling are those that can be relieved of revenue for the city coffers, or bribes for the public “servants”.


5 posted on 01/13/2013 10:19:41 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: AmericanSamurai

The real reason liberal cities will be declaring martial law.....


6 posted on 01/13/2013 10:23:05 AM PST by Mom MD (Liberals are slinkies. Good for nothing but they make you smile when you push them down stairs.)
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To: AmericanSamurai

Well, there would be a lot fewer gangsters in Oakland if the city hadn’t been welcoming them in.

They carefully refrain from saying who these guys are, but I would presume that they are either black or hispanic, or maybe one against the other.

The black gangs are the result of paying single women more welfare for every illegitimate child they have. The Hispanic gangs are largely the result of welcoming in illegal aliens. And both gangs are supported by the huge number of drug users who live in the Oakland area, giving the gangs plenty of clients.

Yes, a lot of this is the fault of LBJ and Obama and their like, who have built these gangs as reliable Democrat voters and election cheats. Also probably Obama gets a cut of the drug profits, like Billy Jeff did.

But the people of Oakland have encouraged the worst sort of people to live in their neighborhood. What else can they expect?


7 posted on 01/13/2013 10:23:27 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: AmericanSamurai

So much for The Great Society...


8 posted on 01/13/2013 10:24:47 AM PST by Hoosier-Daddy ( "It is not our job to protect the people from the consequences of their political choices.")
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Feral children. Drug gangs. Bands of marauding illegal aliens. Bath salts. Meth. Oh, and just wait until this “toxic soup” finds out their EBT Cards are not accepted. Our cities will erupt in flames...


9 posted on 01/13/2013 10:27:51 AM PST by donozark (Kim Kardashian had her baby. Triplets! She named them Wilson, Spaulding and Rawlings.)
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To: AmericanSamurai
Bull’s eye of your assessment. Idiot lefties blame guns, Capitalism, and everything else.

Some do, but the work the system from within Elite Cadres of the Left know better.

They patiently created and grew their own little Mordors, bred their orcs and they now they are getting ready to loose them on us.

The war against capitalism is to create the economic conditions conducive to set the stage for their siege and the restriction and confiscation of guns is to prevent the rest of us from protecting and defending ourselves against them.

10 posted on 01/13/2013 10:28:10 AM PST by rdcbn
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Excellent post.


11 posted on 01/13/2013 10:34:46 AM PST by Gator113
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To: donozark

Sounds like civilization in decline. We are not moving towards the light. Despite more advanced technology we are heading for the dark ages.


12 posted on 01/13/2013 10:45:00 AM PST by virgil
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To: rdcbn
bred their orcs and they now they are getting ready to loose them on us.

LOL That's OK, I like hide and seek.

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13 posted on 01/13/2013 10:46:41 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: AmericanSamurai

Very little has changed in Oakland over many decades. The liberals simply feel now the time is right to acknowledge that a problem might even exist. My parents had a friend and buisiness associate murdered there in cold blood. My brother was robbed at gunpoint there. I had my car broken into there. And all of this happened decades before the existance of FreeRepublic. Everyone in the surrounding community knows going there during the day is risky, and at night isn’t even contemplated by the rational. Blacks killing largely blacks over drugs, turf wars, gang affiliation etc has been going on there forever. The more things change as they say.


14 posted on 01/13/2013 10:47:29 AM PST by SpaceBar
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To: SpaceBar

I have a friend who lived and worked in LA for a while nearly 20 years ago. The had to keep tabs on which gang territory they were working in and dress accordingly. Also try to avoid working on borders between territories.


15 posted on 01/13/2013 10:54:32 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: AmericanSamurai
California must ban fast food and high fructose corn syrup now! It is the only way to prevent more senseless violence! Do it for the children! Now! /Strident Liberal Rant
16 posted on 01/13/2013 11:09:37 AM PST by MrBambaLaMamba (This Message Contains Privileged Attorney-Client Communications)
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To: Navy Patriot
The only people Oakland authorities have any interest in controlling are those that can be relieved of revenue for the city coffers, or bribes for the public “servants”

Welcome to anarcho-tyranny.

17 posted on 01/13/2013 11:11:57 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: AmericanSamurai

I’m thinking they should just ban all firearms. Once all the bad guys turn in their guns the violence would stop.


18 posted on 01/13/2013 11:19:53 AM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

A lot of the people in these communities probably don’t care about the drug gangs, because they’re making money.


19 posted on 01/13/2013 11:44:58 AM PST by popdonnelly
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To: AmericanSamurai
If only California had the strongest gun laws in the US, this would stop.

In case you missed the sarcasm here, go look at the Brady Center's state gun law map.

20 posted on 01/13/2013 11:45:34 AM PST by Hardastarboard (The Liberal ruling class hates me. The feeling is mutual.)
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To: virgil
"Despite more advanced technology we are heading for the dark ages."

Yup...you said it.

This is the city where the city council insisted that the schools teach the children EBONICS.

The first speeding ticket I ever got was on the Oakland Bay Bridge.

21 posted on 01/13/2013 11:55:18 AM PST by blam
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Well disregard what the liberals think or in other words, ignore them. It works.


22 posted on 01/13/2013 12:14:13 PM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: rdcbn

It will set the stage for a second American civil war in which the liberal lift WILL LOSE. As proof, gun sales are going through the roof.


23 posted on 01/13/2013 12:17:43 PM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Hoosier-Daddy
So much for The Great Society...

Actually, when the criminal element in a society is offing themselves, the part of society left behind has to be better off. It's simple math: addition by subtraction. ;)
24 posted on 01/13/2013 12:21:08 PM PST by adorno (Y)
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To: AmericanSamurai

A very simple solution to a very complex problem: Raise taxes, raise them again, and deny all law abiding citizens their only form if immediate protection.’

And raise taxes again.


25 posted on 01/13/2013 12:21:19 PM PST by DPMD
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To: adorno

then again, will that make them Darwin-strong?


26 posted on 01/13/2013 12:26:53 PM PST by NonValueAdded (If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, you've likely misread the situation.)
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To: AmericanSamurai

Give them all $50,000 for raising non-existent pigs on non-existent pig farms.


27 posted on 01/13/2013 12:27:54 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: AmericanSamurai
A woman walking her dog at 3 p.m. Friday stumbled upon Larry Lovette lying on the sidewalk near Dimond Park.

Blind, or just clumsy? Distracted walking? When she stumbled, did she injure herself?

28 posted on 01/13/2013 1:26:01 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: cripplecreek

Well, guys from Oakland wouldn’t last a day out there.


29 posted on 01/13/2013 1:33:08 PM PST by rdcbn
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To: Biggirl
I'm not so sure we will see a Civil War but I lived through Watts and was at ground zero during the Rodney King party so I don't doubt things could get interesting from time to time.

I'm also not so sure which side would win in the case of civil war, because I have a pretty good idea who our leadership would incite.

One thing I do know is that I don't want to be within 50 miles of LA, Oakland, Detroit, Chicago, Philadelphia, Cinci the day the EBT cards don't reload.

The really sad thing is the Americans used to be Americans first and foremost and at least profess to care about their fellow Americas.

Our cultural elites and Left wing education system has worked over 2 generations to systematically destroy that all the traditional American values and mores so we no longer seem to have the civic bond and appreciation of what it means to be American that we used to have. Now, we seem have polarized into two totally different and irreconcilable world views and people are arming and the attitude among more than a few on all sides of the spectrum is ,”bring it on, lets get the party started.”.

The amount of hate from the Left is especially scary and a quick scan of DU or Kos gives the impression there would be no lack of eager volunteers for home grown versions of SA and Stasi along with guards re educators for Re Education Camps, Gulags and ultimately even worse.

We no longer live in the America I grew up in. What the hell has happened to this country ?

30 posted on 01/13/2013 2:11:39 PM PST by rdcbn
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To: rdcbn
They patiently created and grew their own little Mordors, bred their orcs and they now they are getting ready to loose them on us.

It's called community organizing.

31 posted on 01/13/2013 2:16:18 PM PST by VRW Conspirator (Sometimes it takes calamity to lead to serenity - FReeper RacerX1128)
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To: AmericanSamurai

A fine example of decades of democratic rule, now go get those guns from the gangbangers!


32 posted on 01/13/2013 3:01:04 PM PST by ronnie raygun ( Lexington / Concord, America's first gun grab attempt)
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To: VRW Conspirator

It’s called community organizing.


Yes it is


33 posted on 01/13/2013 4:28:17 PM PST by rdcbn
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