Canada Ping!
Posted on 01/13/2013 3:33:52 PM PST by thackney
Previous discussion thread on the topic
Group wants to move bitumen by rail to Alaska
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2974202/posts
Posted on 1/2/2013
as long as those asking for it can pay for it, who cares.
A short time ago rail was thought to be too expensive for oil shipment. Now minds have changed especially with the current administration. For months now long trains have been passing a block from my house, coming from Bakken down to the existing pipeline terminal in St. James Parish. Life always finds a way.
So it’s OK with them to ship their oil to the pristine Alaska coast but not the pristine Canadian coast? At one time the entire continent was pristine. What the hell is so special about the Canadian west coast, or the Canadian East coast or the Canadian North coast?
Twelve 240 car trains per day. Those trains will also have to go back again. It seems like it will be a train every hour or so that will take 10 minutes to go by. A pipeline would be a whole lot quieter.
Over 3 miles long.
If they were to reach the 5MMPBD, it would be 32 trains a day that size. 12 trains are 1.8MMBPD.
Canada Ping!
I doubt the 240 car train....passing sidings probably can’t handle them...
It is 3 or more times as expensive as a pipeline. But when you have more oil than pipeline capacity, the choices get rather limited. It does mean those producing/owning the oil get less for it, or spend more money taking it to market.
Alberta to Valdez for C6 dollars to C8 dollars/bbl ?
Hence the double track.
Is the entire line double track? I’m not completely familiar with it...
The “Canadian North coast”? Do you know where that is?
We’ve got it, and it has to go somewhere.
By moving it overland to Alaska, we’ll be avoiding O’bummer’s EPA’s dire crisis of oil ever moving anywhere within the continental U.S.A.
As I understand it, the proposal is rail to Delta, then the existing pipeline to Valdez.
Then a tanker ship to the L48 West Coast.
It is not clear to me is the C$ includes the pipeline Tarriff.
If you think Alaska gets a free pass from the EPA:
EPA issues Shell notices of air pollution coming from its Arctic drilling operation
http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/epa-issues-shell-notices-of-air-pollution-coming-from-its-arctic-drilling-operation/2013/01/11/b6563dba-5c24-11e2-b8b2-0d18a64c8dfa_story.html
Jany 11, 2013
The federal agency announced Thursday that it issued Shell notices of air quality violations coming from its drill rig and drill ship during what was a shortened Arctic drilling season of about two months. Shell’s drill rig Kulluk and drill ship Noble Discoverer emitted excessive amounts of nitrogen oxide. There were multiple violations for each ship, the agency said.
Western Canada is so pristine that Victoria pumps its sewage into the Straits of Juan de Fuca. B.C. seems to be like the California of Canada. A lot of NIMBY type attitudes and opposition to everything man-made.
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