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Newtown Officers Traumatized By Sandy Hook Shooting Could Get Leaves of Absence
The Hartford Courant ^ | January 10, 2013 | DAVE ALTIMARI

Posted on 01/13/2013 4:41:24 PM PST by Uncle Chip

Edited on 01/13/2013 4:42:49 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Newtown police officers struggling emotionally after the Sandy Hook Elementary School shootings may be given up to six months of leave with at least partial pay under an agreement being discussed between the town and union.

The officers could receive at least two-thirds, and possibly 100 percent, of their regular pay as part of the deal, which was being negotiated Wednesday. The negotiators hoped to complete the final details over the next two weeks.


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: leo; newtown; psychology; sandyhook
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1 posted on 01/13/2013 4:41:30 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

I’m sure it wasn’t easy to look at the scene.


2 posted on 01/13/2013 4:47:12 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Uncle Chip

Sorry, this is part of their job. They have a duty to serve their city. If these guys are that weak, they need to get a job flipping burgers.

I am sure it was a horrible scene, but officers all over the country have witnessed horrible scenes in the course of their careers.


3 posted on 01/13/2013 4:53:58 PM PST by dforest
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To: Uncle Chip

Sorry, this is part of their job. They have a duty to serve their city. If these guys are that weak, they need to get a job flipping burgers.

I am sure it was a horrible scene, but officers all over the country have witnessed horrible scenes in the course of their careers.


4 posted on 01/13/2013 4:55:16 PM PST by dforest
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To: driftdiver

It must have been really horrific and difficult to process that crime scene. I can understand payed leave with psych evaluations for those that were there.


5 posted on 01/13/2013 4:55:31 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: driftdiver

I am sorry, but they are professionals right? They get paid for 90% of the time just sitting around. Our war vets have seen a lot worse, and they can’t even get disability.

I saw 16 people pulled off a bus in Columbia and machine gunned. Pretty ugly, survived without extra leave or pay.


6 posted on 01/13/2013 4:55:53 PM PST by stubernx98 (cranky, but reasonable)
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To: stubernx98

If the locals want to pay for it the who are we to critisize?


7 posted on 01/13/2013 4:57:49 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: stubernx98

If the locals want to pay for it the who are we to criticize?


8 posted on 01/13/2013 4:58:09 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: dforest

I would agree with you if this were an urban hell-hole like Detroit or Chicago where dealing with murders is a ho-hum daily occurence.

But Newtown? I think even the toughest veteran cop in East St. Louis would be seeing a shrink after what happened there.


9 posted on 01/13/2013 4:58:36 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Uncle Chip

Wow! What a bunch of hard asses we have here. I’m guessing your response to soldiers with PTSD is f’emm. It is part of thet job you know.


10 posted on 01/13/2013 5:01:26 PM PST by Drill Thrawl (The Progs are pushing for war. Be ready.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Look, soldiers see scenes as bad or worse than Sandy Hook, they don’t get to negotiate for paid time off.

I know it was bad, but You hear crimes stories all the time and they are described as being terribly disturbing. If every cop wanted time off from their job for these reasons, nobody would be working.


11 posted on 01/13/2013 5:02:22 PM PST by dforest
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To: Uncle Chip

Call me whatever you like - I’m not buying it. I’m not buying any part of the whole narrative. What we have been told happened there that day is all too convenient and poorly, inconsistently documented.

“Hush money” came first to my mind when I read this headline.

I never buy the “official” reports” on much of anything anymore. The only times I was ever part of and eye-witness to historical events - the Fall of Saigon and the Mayaguez Incident - and saw how the news and the history of those times were distorted by the media/CIA complex, I swore off believing anything the government ever told me.


12 posted on 01/13/2013 5:05:18 PM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: Uncle Chip

No videos with a school with 5 plus permanent cameras on the premises, a “laughing” parent who seconds before he goes on camera starts LOL’ing before ‘crying that his “daughter” died, a medical examiner who acts like he came from a mental asylum...


13 posted on 01/13/2013 5:10:36 PM PST by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: Uncle Chip

six month vacation?? excuse me? that’s their job. did the medical examiner get 6 months vacation as well? how about the crime photog?

wtf?! I don’t get any vacation if a project is extra difficult. why should they? (besides being govt types and on the public dole)

what’s next? teachers getting more vacation because students are unruly or get bad grades? life guards getting vacation if they get sunburned?

if its too much, quit. you can always go back.


14 posted on 01/13/2013 5:23:26 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: dforest

Not sure a lot of soldiers see this many kids killed in this fashion.

The soldiers may see more blood and guts but not sure if they see what these policemen saw that day.

I am curious how many want this much time off. If they were there and they are evaluated and found that time off with counseling will help them, AND it is negotiated between them and the town, I don’t see how anyone could have a problem with that.

Think of the setting also. An American school where maybe some of theses officers kids went or some kids of their friends go to school. Many many children shot dead as they hid or tried to run.

I am pretty sure most of you hard asses on here would be pretty messed up after seeing something like what these officers saw that day.

I could be wrong and you guys are the type that has no soul and can carry on like nothing happened after seeing bodies of children that were shot and bled out on their CLASSROOM FLOOR where they and everyone expected them to be safe.

Not judging anyone that has no feelings as there is a need for people like you, but don’t see how you can judge them from afar.


15 posted on 01/13/2013 5:24:30 PM PST by BookaT
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To: Drill Thrawl
I’m guessing your response to soldiers with PTSD is f’emm.

Seems to me that is the government response, military that seek help are poorly served, and quickly denied their 2A rights, as opposed to cops who are coddled beyond all reason.

16 posted on 01/13/2013 5:26:45 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: dagogo redux
As a hospital chaplain intern and then resident, specializing in pediatric ministry, I watched a bunch of lovely children die. (But not all at once.)

I had the strength of my faith, the support of my brother and sister chaplains, and, in a funny way, the support of the staff-- pediatrics people are special. We grieved together.

I've been a cop. I know some cops. Damn few of them have the education, the background, the support teams that I had.

When you go to seminary, when you enter chaplaincy training, you go in with the "movie" that you're the poor sucker who shows up when everything else has gone tits-up and the worst has already happened. Once an airliner crashed at the local airport -- only one survivor. Whom do they call? Chaplain. I'm on my way up to the NICU and I get flagged down by the ER people. They have a guy who just croaked. They don't know what to do. Like I do? Croaking stinks! It's not exactly what God had in mind.

I'm not sure, but I'm guessing the cops in Newtown maybe ran movies of, maybe, if they got REAL lucky, stopping a bank robbery or a rape. I bet few of them ever thought of preparing themselves emotionally and spiritually for a massacre of children.

I'll tell you another thing. Whatever people's theology of ministry is, when the compost hits the air-conditioner, the chaplain is there as God's representative. So when a kid I really loved, of parents I really loved, after spending most of her short life in the hospital, is discharged, and then dies of unknown causes, guess who the parents are angry at?

But while that hurt unbelievably, at least I had been briefed. I was ready to take fire.

My heart goes out to the Newtown cops. I bet they were completely unprepared for this. I bet we see some broken marriages, maybe even some suicides down the road for these LEOs.

Until you personally have messed with a bunch of dead children, please forgive me if I come into the dialogue thinking that you might not have a clue.

17 posted on 01/13/2013 5:31:22 PM PST by Mad Dawg (In te, Domine, speravi: non confundar in aeternum.)
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To: dforest

My cousin is a CT State trooper. He is a fifteen year vet, and he saw it all. He said it was the worst thing he had ever seen. Much worse than could be described.

Your imagination cannot come close to seeing little children blown apart.

Give these guys a break, as you do not know what you are talking about.


18 posted on 01/13/2013 5:33:23 PM PST by Vermont Lt (We are so screwed.)
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To: sten

over 600,000 have seen this. i saw some of these clips right after the shooting...like the feller that they pinned down in the woods, and the kid saw him, and he was in the front seat of the police car, but now he’s disappeared. i’m from Missouri, & i’m cornfused about a lot of stuff since 0bama took over. Good Luck, & i hope this helps: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx9GxXYKx_8&feature=youtube_gdata_player


19 posted on 01/13/2013 5:33:44 PM PST by stickywillie
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To: driftdiver

um... police see kids dead in horrible traffic accidents all the time, I don’t see why these officers need any time off at all. Seems like they are just trying to take advantage of the situation.


20 posted on 01/13/2013 5:44:44 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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