Skip to comments.Board Mulls Allowing Guns in Ariz. County Building
Posted on 01/13/2013 8:35:33 PM PST by Hildy
An Arizona county is considering a plan to remove the metal detector at its administration building and allow people to freely carry guns at the location as they carry out government business.
Mohave County added the walk-through metal detector and gun lockers a few years ago, subjecting people to security and forcing them to stow their guns before entering the building. But the county is now exploring an idea to let people carry guns in the building.
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Nice... but the premise is flawed: if the right to bear arms is unconditionally guaranteed by the State Constitution than stature/rule/ordnance asserting otherwise is unlawful. (That is to say that the board cannot lawfully restrict guns.)
ARTICLE 2, Section 26.
The right of the individual citizen to bear arms in defense of himself or the state shall not be impaired, but nothing in this section shall be construed as authorizing individuals or corporations to organize, maintain, or employ an armed body of men.
Well.. they did.
I imagine Tom is cursing your existence as we speak. From the comfort of his recent retirement. (snicker)
Good for you! And us too ;)
Don’t forget to give the schools some love.
I really like Az’s open carry gun policy.
I like the way people don’t freak out when you wear a gun there.
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Let’s just say I did not receive a Christmas card from the man.
Law of unintended consequensces at its BEST.
Maybe they could install a liberal idiot detector instead.
And we intend to keep it that way.
I truly enjoyed my years living there.
You have to understand that for many years, the Mohave County Board of Supervisors acted like a law unto themselves. They did what they wanted to do and told people what they wanted them to hear. Then did something else. I worked at the Bullhead City paper for a number of years during her predecessor’s reign of ‘error’ and had a somewhat inside view. Shall we say that many of the former employees went on to positions in a variety of branches in area government? ( I didn’t)
Transparent government serving the will of the people it was not. Look up pictures of the County government offices in Kingman. Then the cost. They did need a new building but...
One of our editors (not on anyone’s favorite list in or out of govt.) used to call it “The Palace”. And for good reason. It should give you an idea of how things were run.
And no, Hildy had nothing to do with it. But if memory serves, and I believe it does, she had a lot to say against it. Took major crap for it too ;)
Thank you also, Hildy, for pinging me to this.
I have mixed feelings about guns in courthouses. I'm willing to be educated and I'll follow this debate with interest. I think a far better case can be made for keeping guns out of courtrooms than for keeping guns out of the rest of the courthouse where people come to do routine county business. I'm very much aware of the problems of placing limits on the Second Amendment and would like to learn more about how this was handled in the 1800s and early 1900s before the gun ban epidemic broke out.
FWIW, our circuit judges have ordered the use of a metal detector and banned not only guns but knives over a certain length, taking it out of the hands of the county commissioners, and putting security under the authority of the court bailiffs rather than the sheriff's department. This was an issue in our county before I moved here with a former sheriff who was deliberately doing a full-body check of a county commissioner who he detested when the commissioner came to the county commission meetings to see if he might be carrying a concealed weapon in male personal spaces.
That fight is long since over — both the sheriff and the county commissioner have been out of office for nearly a decade — but we still have the security guards and metal detector in place under circuit court order.
Looks like Freeper Hildy is doing some good work.
THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH COURTHOUSES! Administration building only. Of course metal detectors stay in courthouses.
Until now, I was not aware of any county governments outside large urban areas that put the county administration offices anywhere other than the county courthouse. The judicial operations may take up only a small part of the building (in our county, the offices of the judges and their courtrooms take up about half of one floor), but the whole building is still called a “courthouse.”
Knowing that your county puts its administrative operations somewhere other than the judicial operations changes the picture considerably.