Skip to comments.iPhone 5 PANIC at Apple? Demand is 'weak' (Liberals hit by Obama tax hikes...)
Posted on 01/14/2013 6:02:13 AM PST by jimbo123
Reports say iPhone 5 demand is now half of planned figures. Apple (NASDAQ:AAPL) is said to have slashed component orders. The pre-market stock price is falling fast, heading below $500.
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I would say the lack of jailbreaking and unlocking as well as poor QC in the iPhone 5 are leading reasons why folks aren’t buying them.
This obsession with getting the latest phone TOY is absolutely ridiculous. The younger generation no longer answers a phone or talks on it. They cannot deal with an actual conversation, they can only communicate by texting.
We are getting dumber at an alarming rate.
In my opinion, Apple got ahead of itself with the iPhone 5. Apple Fanboys are quick to gobble up the new tech, but average people, myself included, don’t want to “upgrade” their gadgets every 12-18 months. The iPhone 5, to most consumers, is just a flashier version of the 4/4S, and adoption is weak as a result.
I believe this is less about money and more about market saturation. People will gobble up tablets, because they’re new and cool. Apple’s almost perfected the iPhone, and minor tweaks, performance increases, etc. are going to go unnoticed unless and until the newest whiz-bang apps require them.
FWIW, Microsoft is feeling the same pinch with Windows 8. People don’t want a new OS just because it supports touchscreens. Win7 works very well already.
I agree with everything you said!
Strange, I didn’t see anything about Obama voters.
You seem to assume that only liberals buy iPhones and other Apple products.
My WAG is that the student loan bubble is a factor with iMargin at AAPL.
I finally retired my old Black Berry and bought an iPhone 5. I really don’t like typing on a touch screen but the other gadgets are interesting.
My main use is email and telephone.
Don’t really need siri, a compass, today’s weather, etc.
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Finally upgrade my years old laptop. Probably a 15 pounder to a 5.5 pound HP 2.4ghz, 15.4 screen, 500GB, 4GB ram running Windows 8.
Did not want to go to Windows 8. They have a start menu system designed to sell videos, music and games that we could do without.
PC works well and cost $379 at Best Buy. Went by the Apple computers that ran $1500-$2000. Just cannot see paying that much. Never could.
I have one, and it is a very nice product. The environment is simply different. Unless the iphone4 is failing, there is no widespread need to upgrade for most consumers. The 4 is fine. Also, the competition has improved greatly. I chose iPhone over Samsung galaxy III, but it was a close call. I wanted to stability and more reliable battery life, which was a struggle i had previously had as an android user.
A year or so ago, I was in Verizon a day after a major phone release. There was no crowd or rush. The days of long lines is mostly over for these releases, as each phone is only an incremental change from others. The customer base has matured in the mobile space.
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The main reason i’ve held off getting a 5 so far is because they changed the charger connection on the bottom of the phone rendering all my current docks around my house obsolete, which sort of ticks me off.
But, I am due for an upgrade on my phone plan and will probably break down and get one soon.
iPhone 5 can recognize 5Ghz wi-fi.
otherwise I’m not impressed.
Why buy a phone when they can get the free Obama phone? :)
the liberal Apple just released the iPhone 4, it’s way too soon for anyone to crave a 5. I know this because I have kids that use these phones. Me, I wouldn’t dream of such, I hate my phone, a Samsung peice of junk but I would not absolutely not get an Apple
Just had this discussion yesterday.
If you were shopping for luxury sedan, you might look at Cadillac, BMW, and Audi. If you are looking for economy car, you might look at Hyundai, Honda, Chevy and Kia. A person who can afford an Audi would not be happy with a Chevy Sonic. A person who can only afford a Sonic will say that Audis are too expensive.
If you have only ever been on the Sonic side of life, you cannot speak with authority and knowledge about the Audi side. The buying experience is VERY different. The driving experience is VERY different. The overall cost of ownership is VERY different.
Same thing with Apple. Buying a Mac (especially in an Apple Store) is a very different experience (usually) than buying a bargain laptop at Best Buy. I have done both. Trust me, Apple is better.
Having a Mac serviced is a very different experience. My son had a minor USB port issue with his one year old Mac Book. They took his computer to the back, pulled his hard drive, put it in a new computer, and sent him on his way in half an hour. While not always perfect, you can see from surveys that Mac users are very happy with the technical support.
Owning and using a Mac is a very different experience. Transitioning to the new operating system is easy and within a week I didn’t even think about it. Not having to mess with registry issues, malware and virus issues, and inconvenient security updates that take your computer offline for hours is wonderful. We have four Macs and one PC at work (for now) and spend far more time maintaining the PC than the four Macs combined.
Are Macs right for everyone? No. If you are a college student on a very tight budget and spend your free time playing computer games, they stay with PCs. If, however, you run a business and want your computers to “just work” consistently, you should do an honest total cost of ownership evaluation and see if Macs might not be just the thing your company needs.
they do that just to make money along with the breakable glass in the things. i have replaced a number of the screens for my kids and it royally peeves me because I know they could use nonbreakable something or other for the screen but they won’t because apple likes charging us 100 dollars to replace the screens. Another reason I personally will not buy one Just waiting for the class action lawsuit based on the warranty of suitability for the purpose intended, kids do not intend to cut their fingers and their faces with this piece of junk phone. NO OTHER PHONES DO THIS
I had a IP4 for 2 years and changed to a Windows 8. Everything about the Windows Nokia 920 is better except the app selection. I could have had a IP5 but it was not a compelling upgrade, and Android is not supported in my company.
1) Made in China.
2) by Apple.
What in the world, is everyone concerned about?
i don’t get your point
Until I bought a MAC, I couldn’t either. My DH has gone through three PCs vs my plain macbook. Long run costs of PC is higher because I had to take hours to retrieve the data off each PC (and the purchase of 3 PCs)... and store important stuff on MAC. I am looking at the MAC mini for my next purchase, super- versatile. Meanwhile PC 4 is already slowing down. MAC is more cost effective than PC. In the end I want quality. BTW windows 8 is as horrible as Vista. I work too hard for my cash to dump it into a worthless Windows which is always released to the market full of problems. Having used both and having both in my household gives me a good perspective. MAC is not as bright and shiny.. It’s like a Cadillac vs a ford pinto.
uhhhhhhh huh, crusher, ever read the millionaire next door? just because you can afford a German car and keep it supported at the local mechanic’s shop does not mean everybody is deluded enough to do so, the smart thing with cars is clearly to purchase an Asian car and keep it running til the wheels fall off. But you go right ahead, bud, it is your money.
The iPhone 5 isn’t selling as well as the iPhone 4 series because the 4 series is made very well and it’s not necessary to upgrade every single year.
Don’t knock an American-based technology company for inventing and making quality products. It’s kind of something I want.
(Complaining about price is like comparing Mercedes to Datsun.)
They use Gorilla Glass. Try and find a similar, stronger, or better glass in a similar thickness.
Between my wife and I we’ve owned about 5 iPhones and if you add my friends in I can say I’ve seen.... many... used and abused iPhones.
I’ve not heard of anyone breaking the glass.
What are your kids doing? :)
Probably a strong economic indicator that the 0bama Depression means that people don’t have the $600-$700 to throw out on something that is not significantly more advanced than the iPhone 4.
The problem is, it makes them in China.
Eventually the company will be based there.
Then it will not longer be an American company.
We have reached the age when stuff is “good enough” for at least 4-5 years.
I’ve been an Apple enthusiast since 94. I have a working Mac Performa 575 which I still use for everything but internet. It’s running OS 8 and it’s fine. I have a 9 year old iBook and a 4 year old Mac Book. I use them both and I’ve never had any problems with them. I have a six year old iPod and an iPhone 3GS which is almost 4 years old and works fine.
I was going to upgrade the phone for the simple reason the storage isn’t very big. I went to my local Apple store and I was not impressed by the iPhone 5. I don’t like the shape, or the fact it’s now on a 9 pin on the bottom.
I know Apples cost more than a PC but the fact they keep going and going, hold their retail value if you want to resell them. Yes, it’s expensive but it’s really is like comparing a Caddy to a Pinto. Heck it’s like comparing a Caddy to a Yugo. I can tell you personally, I saved for over a year for each of my computers, to purchase them outright, with cash. It was worth it.
I don’t think the demand is “weak”. I just think there is a glut on the market for cell phones and the market is saturated.
oh lord, they drop them, what else? I drop my samsung and it doesn’t break. but on their way to the field hockey tournament someone drops their phone. you must live a very sheltered life. ALL the kid phones I see have broken glass.
Actually, Apple is starting to move production here.
Few seem to grasp the scale of the supply chain involved, and how few places can support it. They make it in China because they can’t make it anywhere else, what with all the regulations and union interference. People complain about cost of the products, but that’s as cheap as its gonna get. As costs in China rise, Apple will increase automation and move production here.
The problem with upgrading to the iPhone 5 from the 4 or 4s is that where I live...there isn’t any 4G-LTE service. It’s still 3G in most places and unless you live in a major metro area you’ve still got only 3G service. Why spend good money on a new phone with new technology witout the infrastructure to back it up.
The first day I had my Nokia, I dropped it in the Golf Course parking lot right flat on the glass. There wasn't even a blemish.
The Nokia is the number one phone you can buy today and it's cheaper than the iPhone 5.
Bingo, especially given the choice between spending $200 to upgrade to an i-5 or getting an i-4 upgrade for $2. There's just not that big of a technology leap forward to justify the extra cost.
Maybe it is because the iPhone 4 didn’t work. It’s Bluetooth sucked and the voice command was useless.
Me: “Call Wife Mobile”
iPhone: “Calling 911”
Me: “Call Wife Mobile”
iPhone: “Playing songs by Rush”
Me: “Call Wife Mobile”
iPhone: “No number found”
That will keep me from upgrading until my phone starts rusting. WifeOfZeugma got a iPad mini and iP5. (gave her old iPad to MomInLawOfZeugma.)
I'm a Linux nerd, and really don't particularly like the walls around apple products. It's too freaking much hassle to get data in and out of one. I much prefer the Linux way. Plug it in, and it's a drive, to do with as you want. I've had a Nook Color for a couple of years. I've bought very few bokos from B&N. Almost everything I have is from Baen.com or Project Gutenberg. I like the fact that I just plug it in, mount, copy, unmount, and read. Can do the whole thing with about 4 mouse clicks when I'm feeling lazy.
The only way I've been able to get a new book on my phone was by emailing it to myself. I just said "screw it", and treat it more or less like a phone with a few nifty features. (GPS is an Awesome thing IMO)
I find different attitudes toward computers and related technology very interesting.
I have been a computer user (and administrator) since the early 1980s. A partial list of OS that I can remember off hand working with at one time or another (in no particular order): CP/M, TRS-DOS, Whatever the AppleII used, VM, MVS, JCL, MS-DOS, PC-DOS, VAX-VMS, Windows (3.1 through Win7), Mac-OS, OS/2, Solaris, IRIX, HP-UX, UNICOS, Android, Linux.
The idea of being an "enthusiast" for any of them is baffling.
maybe they need a more protective case? i have one, my three kids each have one, and i have never heard of broken glass on any iphone.
I guess I don't NEED them... but, I've become very fond of using Siri to put appointments on my calenday... very easy.
And, when I'm in foreign countries, I really like the compass... just to keep my bearings. And, the map.
wow. Yeah well we have the cases and so do the other kids at school and they all have broken glass. I don’t know, but I am totally disgusted with apple
thank you, yes the things break like crazy
On the random occasion where I can actually get the voice commands to work on the iPhone, it doesn't make up for the number of incoherent exchanges like the one you suggested.
I do find that the voice-to-text translation works decently though.
Don’t bother auguring with the Applepeople...their the tech equivalent of a lib..
I guess I am kind of silly- I am a writer by trade and there is something about an Mac that makes me write whereas on a PC I can’t.
I thought I would be laughed at if I said it was “cuter”. Still, if it helps me do what I am paid to do and makes me happy.
Maybe I should have used the word “fan” instead?
Thank you for pointing this out to me.
And Microsoft is just so Republican...not.
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Total Contribution Dollar Amount $14,856,915
(1999 - Present)
Total Contribution Dollar Amount to Republicans $2,215,242
(15% of total)
Total Contribution Dollar Amount to Democrats $6,485,311
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Funny and the American people are just beginning the tax hikes. First the Social Security and the over 450K crowd and soon coming to a job near you, the under 450K crowd will see taxes going up before the end of the year GUARANTEED....dang bastids.
I was lost, looked at where I was on a map at a bus stop and used my iphone5 compass to see the direction I needed to walk.
My friend’s Samsung Galaxy 3 has a broken face. They say it will cost about $150 to fix.
More DAH (Deranged Apple Hater).
I FINALLY bought an Apple MACBOOK in 2010 and will NEVER EVER buy another non Apple ever again. Not one single Virus to date. The non Apple Computers are ridden with Virus’ and what a pain that is to try and clean up and that is including Anti-Virus programs. Forget it. You get what you pay for.