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To: NewHampshireDuo

‘A friend of mine’ who went 55 years of his life without one just bought two guns this month.

[And then lost them in a tragic boating accident]

The store owner was happy he was making a ton of money- even expanded his store open hours temporarily.. but he said he was worried about what would happen to his business AFTER

Does anyone here shoot a 410? Is reloading those shells much cheaper? (I know they are very expensive to begin with, for some reason)

How do 410 shotgun shells compare with .45 bullets? (cost wise) the one gun ‘my friend’ bought is made to shoot both.) [I mean if he hadn’t lost them in the tragic boating accident]


10 posted on 01/14/2013 6:44:57 AM PST by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: Mr. K

Two of the handguns we bought in November were Taurus Judges. Ammo for them is either .45 Colt (a longer-than .45 ACP) or .410 shells.

The 000 buck .410 shells only have 4 pellets in them - BUT they are each slightly larger than the size of a .38 bullet (.36 for the 000 and .357 for the .38).

Range time was awesome - at 25 feet, there were 4 horizontal holes across the center of the target with each shot.


33 posted on 01/14/2013 7:08:45 AM PST by FrogMom (Chicken Little is coming, and he's right!)
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To: Mr. K

>> How do 410 shotgun shells compare with .45 bullets? (cost wise) the one gun ‘my friend’ bought is made to shoot both.)

Ah, your friend bought himself a Judge. It’s a shame he wasn’t more careful with his new purchase. :-)

I used to have a Judge, too, before it fell off my truck.

.45LC is kinda pricey handgun ammo, and not always easy to find. I did notice that they at least had some on the shelf at my Academy, last time I looked. I have found dirty Mexican .45LC for about .65/shell. Most of the time it’s more than that.

But it’s not just cost, it’s also effectiveness.

While .410 small shot may be cheaper (50 cents) and is useful for some varmints, IMHO the .45LC is a better defense round. If you’re planning to shoot longer than about ten or fifteen feet, anyway. For defense, don’t even THINK about any shot size smaller than #4, and frankly, #4 is too small too. Think buck. Smaller shot just sprays every whichaway shortly after it leaves that little barrel.

Before I lost my judge, I preferred these for defense: http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/AMM-860.

Three 000 pellets. Price is okay relative to other .410, if you can find them. And the pattern is tight-ish out to a reasonable distance.

In fact, I keep ...er, *kept* the judge loaded with three of these (first) plus two Hornady JHP .45LC after those.

Your friend may have been tempted to try .410 slugs, but IMHO they aren’t worth their price ($1 each). If you want to throw just one piece o’ hot lead out of the Judge, use .45LC — cheaper, more accurate, and more effective.

The Judge certainly has its flaws (and plenty of detractors to point them out), but all in all I have... er, *had* a lot of fun with mine.

FRegards


36 posted on 01/14/2013 7:17:53 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: Mr. K
What is nice about a .410 cal. shotgun is that you can shoot .41 cal pistol ammo and you have no rifling in the barrel!
76 posted on 01/14/2013 11:14:01 AM PST by paratrooper82 (82nd ABN Div. 1/508th BN "Fury From the Sky")
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To: Mr. K

What a coincidence.....I lost all of my firearms in a tragic boating incident recently as well.

To compound the tragic loss, I injured my rotator cuff chopping through the ice so I could launch my boat. :))

EODGUY


103 posted on 01/14/2013 2:13:03 PM PST by EODGUY (Hold on to your copies of the Consititution of the United States. It is going to be re-written.)
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To: Mr. K

I have one that shoots both, a Judge.


107 posted on 01/14/2013 2:58:10 PM PST by GeorgiaDawg32
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To: Mr. K

I have one that shoots both, a Judge.


109 posted on 01/14/2013 3:01:18 PM PST by GeorgiaDawg32
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To: Mr. K

Ah yes. I lost a similar weapon just recently in an equally tragic boating accident. It was called “The Judge”. Lovely gun. Think I’ll buy some more ammo for it....

just in case I find it some day. Ya just never know. It could happen.

“How do 410 shotgun shells compare with .45 bullets? (cost wise) the one gun ‘my friend’ bought is made to shoot both.) [I mean if he hadn’t lost them in the tragic boating accident]”


148 posted on 01/15/2013 12:08:05 AM PST by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie.)
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To: Mr. K

Your friend might have been looking at the same gun I have been thinking about. It’s a nice size little hand gun and it uses 45long or 410 ammo.

It’s called the judge public defender. I haven’t ever considered owning a gun either and I am older than your friend. When I went to the local gun store, I told them that I thought a 12 gauge was a perfect weapon for self defense, except that the barrell was too long for the modern hallways.

I told them I wanted it for self defense only, and something that I could use, even though I likely would not have perfect aim for a while, and certainly didn’t want the kick that a 12 gauge would have.

So the judge is what he advised me to get. He didn’t have any in stock, but had some coming in a couple of weeks. I told my Hubby that he still owes me a Christmas present and that is what I want.

However, there would be a background check, and we might not want to get on anybody’s radar. We don’t go boating, so couldn’t use that boating accident excuse.LOL


172 posted on 04/12/2014 11:04:13 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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