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Obama: Some Gun Control Measures 'I Can Accomplish Through Executive Action'
The Weekly Standard ^ | 1/14/13 | Daniel Halper

Posted on 01/14/2013 9:45:07 AM PST by Nachum

"My understanding is the vice president's going to provide a range of steps that we can take to reduce gun violence," said Obama. "Some of them will require legislation, some of them I can accomplish through executive action. And so I will be reviewing those today, and as I said, I will speak in more detail to what we're going to go ahead and propose later in the week.

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You know he is going to do it. 'Ee caint hep 'imself...

1 posted on 01/14/2013 9:45:18 AM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum

well since no one is going to stop him, I guess he’s right....


2 posted on 01/14/2013 9:46:37 AM PST by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

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3 posted on 01/14/2013 9:46:37 AM PST by Nachum (Back on the Google blacklist- www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

Go for it Jug Ears!!!


4 posted on 01/14/2013 9:49:08 AM PST by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: Tzimisce

I’m hoping Mark Levin has his Landmark Legal Org fired-up to file suit against this illegal EO crap, right away.


5 posted on 01/14/2013 9:49:49 AM PST by carriage_hill (AR-15s are the 21st Century's Muskets. Self-Defense is The First Human Right.)
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To: Nachum

Obama is about to throw the Dems under the bus for 2014 and go play golf.


6 posted on 01/14/2013 9:50:20 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: Nachum

My guess is ...

No more mil surplus ammo or or gun parts.
No more imports of ammo or gun parts.

He will do it.


7 posted on 01/14/2013 9:50:27 AM PST by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Nachum

At least half the states will iugnore his EO. Maybe more. It will be as enforcable as the one he issued re: GITMO.


8 posted on 01/14/2013 9:50:54 AM PST by CityCenter (Compromise is the welcome mat to deception.)
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To: Tzimisce

well since no one is going to stop him, I guess he’s right....


He knows he has TOTAL control. It’s hard to believe Obama’s opposition party has had control of the House for two years now. With the exception of ObamaCare it appears that Obama has managed to push through more of his liberal agenda with a Republican controlled House than he did with Pelosi holding the gavel.


9 posted on 01/14/2013 9:52:23 AM PST by tsowellfan
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To: Nachum

The logical question is to ask about the link/thinking between his executive action and ‘to reduce gun violence’.

The Left enjoy telling us that they are the pro-science half, where is the proof?


10 posted on 01/14/2013 9:52:45 AM PST by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Westbrook

Reloading will get a bit more populare methinks.


11 posted on 01/14/2013 9:52:57 AM PST by Nachum (Back on the Google blacklist- www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

Bring it, jugears...


12 posted on 01/14/2013 9:53:07 AM PST by Noumenon (One individual with courage, determination and a rifle can change the course of history.)
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To: Nachum

**** I can accomplish through executive action.****

Reminded me of an old movie. EXECUTIVE ACTION.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070046/


13 posted on 01/14/2013 9:53:22 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name! See new paintings!)
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To: Red Steel

The way dem Congress has been acting lately, I think you are right and the dumb dems know its not going to go well for them, but he’s their boy. As granny used to tell us, you made your bed, now lie in it.


14 posted on 01/14/2013 9:53:28 AM PST by X-spurt (Republic of Texas, Come and Take It!)
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To: Westbrook
No more imports of ammo or gun parts.

Except for LE or military use, of course. Note that ALL Springfield Armory handgun frames are made in Croatia or Brazil. I'm sure that some other companies are in the same boat. He's going to run a lot of people onto the unemployment line.

15 posted on 01/14/2013 9:54:58 AM PST by Ancesthntr (Banning guns to prevent crime is like banning cars to prevent drunk driving.)
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To: Westbrook

This seems easiest and gets Barry off the hook for ‘doing something’. Even though this is going to be ineffective it was never really about that in the first place.


16 posted on 01/14/2013 9:55:05 AM PST by 556x45
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To: Nachum

More AR-15s in private hands in thirty years than 30-30 Winchesters in 110 years.

And to think, back 40 years ago no one wanted an AR-15s (except me). They wanted hard shooting deer rifles.

Then Jimmy Carter got elected and Americans knew they were on their own when it came to defense.


17 posted on 01/14/2013 9:57:00 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name! See new paintings!)
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To: Nachum
No a$$wipe you can't accomplish anything with an EO. You might get what you want with compliance with your EO but you ain't going to get much of that.
18 posted on 01/14/2013 9:57:16 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: Nachum

I predict we will soon be hearing lots of this:

‘Stand down, that is an unlawful order! I repeat, stand down!’

Reminds me of the end scene in Gladiator.


19 posted on 01/14/2013 9:58:03 AM PST by mkboyce
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To: Nachum

He cannot change the constitution or even limit it by executive order. No matter what he does, expect a legal battle.


20 posted on 01/14/2013 9:58:30 AM PST by TheRhinelander
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To: Ancesthntr

Likely will make some of these foreign companies to set up shop in the US.


21 posted on 01/14/2013 9:58:54 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: Nachum
(woman on the front row) "God, I love this man!

22 posted on 01/14/2013 9:59:34 AM PST by Baynative (Those that work for a living are now outnumbered by those that vote for a living.)
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To: Nachum

Looks like he’s following the advice shouted so much on discussion boards (”EO,” conspiracy, dictatorship, end of the world, etc.). Bad advice. Most Democrats would switch parties, stop voting, hate the richest few constituents behind gun control, and so on. They like their snazzy firearms to go with their other stylish, tacticool apparel, too.

It’s more obvious every day, that the whole effort is to push prices and availability out of reach of the peasants. Look at prices for the hugely available AR bolt carrier groups on Ebay. Heh—yesterday, scalpers raking in about $500 dollars for each bolt carrier group.

Most likely, yet more subgroups of constituents will be further outlawed by bipartisan elites before long. So far, it’s fathers in child custody disputes (’90s, VAWA, restraining order accusations, misdemeanors) and a few others (veterans with PTSD-whatever-new-letters-added-to-the-acronym). Maybe they’ll go after people with lowbrow credit scores or employment histories with gaps.


23 posted on 01/14/2013 10:00:17 AM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

That’s because (IMHO) AR-15’s suck.

I’ll put my Saiga (that I lost in an unfortunate boating accident) up against it any day.


24 posted on 01/14/2013 10:00:30 AM PST by TheRhinelander
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To: Nachum

Can you say “Impeachment?”


25 posted on 01/14/2013 10:04:14 AM PST by AZhardliner
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To: Nachum
"My understanding is the vice president's going to provide a range of steps that we can take to reduce gun violence," said Obama.

Seems to me the DEMONcRATS constantly complained about Dick Cheney having too much power. Is it just me, or does this have the smell of Obozo playing second fiddle to BiteMe???

26 posted on 01/14/2013 10:04:44 AM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: Nachum
Reloading will get a bit more populare

Reloaders are in the same boat.
Components have dried up - primers and powder. Folks who sell reloaded ammo are stuck as they can't get components, either.

27 posted on 01/14/2013 10:06:20 AM PST by grobdriver (Sic semper tyrannis!)
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To: Westbrook

***No more imports of ammo or gun parts.***

Again this is beginning to look more like 1968 when Bobby Kennedy was killed with a cheap American made handgun.

The libs cobbled together a bill that covered almost everything they hated in the 1968 Gun Control Bill.

It banned the import of 5 shot army surplus rifles and handguns, banned small foreign made handguns, banned the import “military” items.

It did NOT ban the manufacture of the handgun used to kill Bobby Kennedy, or stop the manufacture of small American made handguns.

So some of the foreign companies built parts and shipped them to the US for assembly.

One gun dealer in Tulsa, OK was raided because he imported foreign made MILITARY EQUIPMENT! What was the equipment? MUSKET FLINTS.


28 posted on 01/14/2013 10:06:35 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name! See new paintings!)
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To: Nachum

About the only thing I think that I see him being able to do is to stop the import of some weapons to this country. He can direct the ATF to issue opinions and then threaten importers with ‘action’. An effective embargo.

I don’t think he can stop the manufacturer of AR-15s, etc. He could also withhold federal funding to those states currently allowing magazine sizes greater than 10 rounds.

He should know this, I hope for most gun owners like myself:

We are not his employees who have to follow his orders; we are not his subjects. We are not going to comply with registration, nor present our weapons for confiscation.


29 posted on 01/14/2013 10:06:35 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: AZhardliner

My DEMOCRAT Congressman (Barrow) said on the radio this very morning that:

1. He refuses to vote for any new gun control legislation.
2. That, if proposed, it will not pass the House.
3. That he is not in the minority of Southern Democrats whom see it this way.
3. And... that any E.O. that Obama writes “won’t be worth the paper he writes it on.” /Direct quote.


30 posted on 01/14/2013 10:08:46 AM PST by Noamie
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To: Nachum

Exactly what can he accomplish via EO? Maybe insist that the existing laws be enforced? We know what a stickler he is for enforcing the letter of the law....


31 posted on 01/14/2013 10:09:23 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: familyop
Heh—yesterday, scalpers raking in about $500 dollars for each bolt carrier group.

I'm assuming you're talking about those 'open' bolt carrier groups of early design....

32 posted on 01/14/2013 10:09:23 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Baynative
3,500px × 2,621px . . . ooopsie !


fofl !

33 posted on 01/14/2013 10:09:38 AM PST by tomkat ( .. shall not be infringed)
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To: Nachum

Never Again, wanna bet?


34 posted on 01/14/2013 10:12:25 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Gaffer

***He could also withhold federal funding to those states currently allowing magazine sizes greater than 10 rounds.***

Forty two years ago Viet Cong blacksmiths, back in the jungle, were using sheet metal and tin snips to manufacture 30 round magazines for captured M-16s.

Does O really think he can stop Americans from manufacturing a 30 rounder if they wanted to?

Remember, these same VC blacksmiths where hand making copies of the .45 1911 pistol.


35 posted on 01/14/2013 10:12:47 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name! See new paintings!)
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To: Nachum

since Congress and the Courts are complicit co-conspirators to the new Caesar....

” Caesar’s very first enactment after becoming consul was, that the proceedings both of the senate and of the people should day by day be compiled and published. He also revived a by-gone custom, that during the months when he did not have the fasces an orderly should walk before him, while the lictors followed him. He brought forward an agrarian law too, and when his colleague [Bibulus, Caesar’s co-counsel] announced adverse omens,16 he [Caesar] resorted to arms and drove him from the Forum; and when next day Bibulus made complaint in the senate and no one could be found who ventured to make a motion, or even to express an opinion about so high-handed a proceeding (although decrees had often been passed touching less serious breaches of the peace), Caesar’s conduct drove him to such a pitch of desperation, that from that time until the end of his term he did not leave his house, but merely issued proclamations announcing adverse omens.

2 From that time on Caesar managed all the affairs of state alone and after his own pleasure [without regard to the Senate or Bibulus]; so that sundry witty fellows, pretending by way of jest to sign and seal testamentary documents,17 wrote “Done in the consulship of Julius and Caesar,” instead of “Bibulus and Caesar,” writing down p27the same man twice, by name and by surname. Presently too the following verses were on everyone’s lips:—

“In Caesar’s year, not Bibulus’, an act took place of late;

For naught do I remember done in Bibulus’ consulate.”

From: Suetonius’ De Vita XII Caesarum, S. 20


36 posted on 01/14/2013 10:15:28 AM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: AZhardliner

Nope. That will take someone with the one thing that Republicans in the House—guts- to file articles of impeachment. And you can forget about the Senate convicting him.


37 posted on 01/14/2013 10:15:59 AM PST by sport
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To: AZhardliner

Yeah VP Biden is the one he assigned / tasked to deal with the 2nd Amendment / gun control issues my a$$. He’s giving the marching orders and pinning it on his VP to keep the crosshairs aimed the other direction,
AT least you know the man’s not dumb. If he gets a gun control mandate ipassed you’re going to see his entire disposition and demeanor change and then his true nature will come out horns and all


38 posted on 01/14/2013 10:16:41 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: Nachum

Just so everyone knows, when the left says “gun violence,” they really mean “gun ownership.”

So, when they talk about “reducing gun violence,” it means “reducing gun ownership.”


39 posted on 01/14/2013 10:16:50 AM PST by Disambiguator
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To: TheRhinelander; Ruy Dias de Bivar

IMHO, the AR15 is a fine choice because it is chambered for the same cartridge that may be used by our adversaries in the coming unpleasantness. Remember, your civilian weapon is only useful as a means to procure a military weapon. Unless your Saiga is a class III weapon and you’ve got buttloads of ammo, mags and spare parts, you’ll be handing it off shortly after hostilities begin. Saiga ammo and magazines won’t be much use in an M4, but AR ammo and mags work just fine.


40 posted on 01/14/2013 10:17:37 AM PST by jboot (This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
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To: Nachum
Reloading will get a bit more populare methinks.

We bought a reloader for our son in law but having hard time getting casings,and other reloading supplies for it had to resort to using my metal locator in the back pasture where we and others shoot to scavenge up around 400 or so rounds of assorted casings.

41 posted on 01/14/2013 10:18:47 AM PST by bikerman (What ever happens from now is all OBAMA's fault. Obama lied,economy died)
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To: Nachum
Reloading will get a bit more popular methinks.

I've never been big into reloading but I have a good inventory of equipment, powder, primers, bullets, cases, etc.

42 posted on 01/14/2013 10:20:48 AM PST by NewHampshireDuo
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To: Westbrook
"My guess is ...

No more mil surplus ammo or or gun parts.
No more imports of ammo or gun parts.

He will do it.
"

Agreed. "Upscale" constituents--mostly old, white, feminist constituents--run show in the inner cities and have done so for decades. They want semi-auto AKs and ammo for semi-auto AKs to be outlawed or at least unavailable. Obama, being the star employee of the Mrs.'s house, will do as they command.


43 posted on 01/14/2013 10:27:32 AM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Westbrook

...run the show, even.


44 posted on 01/14/2013 10:29:23 AM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Nachum

Hey Obama. If you want to save lives by taking away our guns, why don’t you save innocent kids by closing Planned Parenthood?


45 posted on 01/14/2013 10:30:25 AM PST by csmusaret (I will give Obama credit for one thing- he is living proof that familiarity breeds contempt.)
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To: All

Look for internet sales to take off.


46 posted on 01/14/2013 10:31:24 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Nachum
Barack Obama:

Proud graduate of the Chavez/Castro/Morales School Of Dictatorial Governance.

47 posted on 01/14/2013 10:40:30 AM PST by JPG (Stay strong.)
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To: Nachum

You don’t suppose the fix has been in from the beginning, do you?


48 posted on 01/14/2013 10:44:42 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

We don’t need just sheet metal and tin snips...

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/01/foghorn/defense-distributed-releases-downloadable-printable-30-round-magazine/


49 posted on 01/14/2013 10:45:10 AM PST by Ancesthntr (Banning guns to prevent crime is like banning cars to prevent drunk driving.)
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To: Gaffer
I don’t think he can stop the manufacturer of AR-15s, etc. He could also withhold federal funding to those states currently allowing magazine sizes greater than 10 rounds.

Withhold federal funding for what? About the only good that came out of the SCOTUS Obamacare ruling is that there must be a nexus between the federal funds withheld and the reason for withholding the funds.

50 posted on 01/14/2013 10:48:26 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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