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Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas speaks from the bench; libs in a frenzy
Twitchy ^ | 01/14/2013 | Twitchy Staff

Posted on 01/14/2013 11:19:28 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan

Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas cracked a joke about Yale law students during oral arguments today. He’s famous for his restraint and reticence on the bench. It’s been nearly seven years since he asked any questions — and every last liberal on Twitter is making sure you know it.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: clarencethomas; libhate; scotus
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To: PapaNew

It’s a God issue and everyone knows it.

God created them male and female. “Go forth and multiply.”


21 posted on 01/15/2013 7:59:33 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
it is absolutely impossible to fulfill such a purpose if the natural family has been destroyed

The federal government was not created to fulfill such a purpose. It was created and limited to specific delegated powers designed to basically deal with issues external to the U.S. and judicially resolve Constitutional controversies. The Tenth Amendment confirms this purpose that "any power not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

Marriage and the family are simply not among the enumerated powers of Congress and, therefore, not a federal issue. It's a states' issue. Our country was created not for government to fix all our problems, but for government to protect our freedom to fix our own problems.

However, the federal government has made just about every part of your life and mine their business regardless of the Constitution. The income tax for instance has allowed government to invade our private lives that is none of their business. One of those things is if you're married (none of the government's business). Nevertheless, it is now unconstitutionally become their business. Just like all the other stuff, SCOTUS can now rule on a matter that is none of their constitutional business becasue SCOTUS will not declare acts of Congress unconstitutional. (The ability to tax income was from the 16th Amendment not an act of Congress. But implementation has been very unconstitutional becasue it has allowed the federal government powers not given it by the Constitution.)

22 posted on 01/15/2013 6:41:30 PM PST by PapaNew
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To: Salvation
It’s a God issue

Right, and it's a states' issue and a personal issue. But it is not a Constitutionally delegated issue of the Federal Government.

23 posted on 01/15/2013 6:48:36 PM PST by PapaNew
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To: EternalVigilance
it is absolutely impossible to fulfill such a purpose if the natural family has been destroyed

The federal government was not created to fulfill such a purpose. It was created and limited to specific delegated powers designed to basically deal with issues external to the U.S. and judicially resolve Constitutional controversies. The Tenth Amendment confirms this purpose that "any power not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

Marriage and the family are simply not among the enumerated powers of Congress and, therefore, not a federal issue. It's a states' issue. Our country was created not for government to fix all our problems, but for government to protect our freedom to fix our own problems.

However, the federal government has made just about every part of your life and mine their business regardless of the Constitution. The income tax for instance has allowed government to invade our private lives that is none of their business. One of those things is if you're married (none of the government's business). Nevertheless, it is now unconstitutionally become their business. Just like all the other stuff, SCOTUS can now rule on a matter that is none of their constitutional business becasue SCOTUS will not declare acts of Congress unconstitutional. (The ability to tax income was from the 16th Amendment not an act of Congress. But implementation has been very unconstitutional becasue it has allowed the federal government powers not given it by the Constitution.)

24 posted on 01/15/2013 6:51:38 PM PST by PapaNew
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Uh, sorry. Somehow I sent that last reply to you by accident.


25 posted on 01/15/2013 6:53:37 PM PST by PapaNew
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To: PapaNew
The federal government was not created to fulfill such a purpose.

The purposes of this government are stated right up front.

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

26 posted on 01/15/2013 7:52:08 PM PST by EternalVigilance (It's amazing how expensive "free" can be.)
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To: EternalVigilance
The purposes of this government are stated right up front.

These are the purposes of the CONSTITUTION, not the government. The Constitution was established to PROTECT our freedoms from government, foreign and domestic. The government is not you friend - never has been never will be. The Constitution created a government that was carefully limited. Our founders knew all to well that government is like a fox guarding the hen house, so the Constitution put a strong and short chain on the fox.

After 250 years, the chain has been rendered almost useless and the fox is now in the hen house wreaking havoc.

27 posted on 01/16/2013 4:54:02 AM PST by PapaNew
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To: PapaNew

This government is empowered only by We the People via the Constitution, so I don’t know what you mean. The document’s stated purposes are the legitimate purposes of this government.

And the sodomite agenda is destructive of every single clause of that statement of purpose.


28 posted on 01/16/2013 5:23:59 AM PST by EternalVigilance (It's amazing how expensive "free" can be.)
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To: PapaNew
Right, and it's a states' issue and a personal issue. But it is not a Constitutionally delegated issue of the Federal Government.

It could be a federal constitutional issue under the Full Faith and Credit Clause and Equal Protection Clause (rational basis test).

29 posted on 01/16/2013 5:37:18 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: EternalVigilance
I don’t know what you mean

I mean that our Constitutional form of government establishes the rule of law, not the rule of man. The Constitution, not your good ideas or my good ideas or some tyrant's ideas, is "the Law of the Land". Today, you may want to ignore the limitation of the constitutionally delegated enumerated powers of the federal government so they'll do what you want. But by doing so, you've just abandoned the rule of law (the Constitution) for the rule of man. That's the first step down the slippery slope to tyranny. You've given the Federal government the OK to go beyond it's Constitutional boundaries and limitations. Today maybe it works for you and your values. Tomorrow it works for those who hate you and your values. And without the constraint of the Constitutional rule of law, the history of man shows that tyranny and loss of individual liberty (including loss of life and freedom to pursue your dreams) is right around the corner.

You and the the people of your state are free to deal with the sodomite agenda however you want. And states are doing (or trying to do) just that without unconstitutional interference from the federal government.

30 posted on 01/16/2013 6:09:04 PM PST by PapaNew
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To: EternalVigilance
The document’s stated purposes are the legitimate purposes of this government.

Your confusing the Constitution with the government it creates. They are not one and the same. The Constitution IS your friend. It is actually an anti-government document that creates and at the same time severely limits the powers of the federal government. The U.S. Constitution is based on the principles spelled out in the Declaration of Independence that our rights are derived from God not from man or his government. This is one of the key distinctions between the Constitution and the government it created. Government never recognizes your God-given rights and liberties unless it's forced to and the Constitution forces it to do just that. The history of America is a story of how long and hard government has worked to take away your liberties and amass more and more power to itself. Government is always a taker. It will try to take as much power and money from you as it can.

The Constitution is a recognition of the need for a limited federal government to unify and protect America mainly from foreign governments. But as I said, your protector is very capable of being you oppressor. The Constitution is the only legal bulwark in America between your freedoms and a federal government that would love to gain more power by abridging your freedoms.

31 posted on 01/16/2013 6:26:10 PM PST by PapaNew
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To: Labyrinthos
It could be a federal constitutional issue under the Full Faith and Credit Clause and Equal Protection Clause (rational basis test).

These would be issues to enforce the Constitutional requirements between the states, not excuses for the federal government to itself decide on issues like marriage or abortion or the million other things they have no business deciding.

32 posted on 01/16/2013 6:40:08 PM PST by PapaNew
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To: PapaNew

So, do you think Congress exceeded its lawful constitutional powers when it forbid entrance to the Union to Utah, and Idaho, and Arizona, and Oklahoma, unless they forever swore off plural marriage?

The Republican Party was expressly founded to combat what they called the “twin relics of barbarism,” slavery and polygamy.

Was that an unconstitutional foundation, in your opinion?


33 posted on 01/16/2013 6:52:17 PM PST by EternalVigilance (It's amazing how expensive "free" can be.)
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To: PapaNew

No one defends the Constitution any more than me.

But, it is not a death pact.

And, there is basic right and wrong, based in the laws of nature and of nature’s God, that precede and supersede all human constitutions and laws.

This understanding was the basis for this republic.


34 posted on 01/16/2013 6:56:32 PM PST by EternalVigilance (It's amazing how expensive "free" can be.)
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To: PapaNew
These would be issues to enforce the Constitutional requirements between the states, not excuses for the federal government to itself decide on issues like marriage or abortion or the million other things they have no business deciding.

Abortion is in violent opposition to the clearly-stated natural law assertions of self-evident truth of our nation's charter, the Declaration of Independence, every single clause of the stated purposes of the U.S. Constitution, and the explicit, imperative requirements of that Constitution.

State sovereignty does not trump the God-given, equal, unalienable rights of the people. Never has, never will. Those rights precede and supersede all. To claim otherwise is to dynamite all the foundations of American self-government, including its cornerstone.

The raison d'etre of government, ALL government, is to protect Life and Liberty.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men..."

35 posted on 01/16/2013 7:14:08 PM PST by EternalVigilance (It's amazing how expensive "free" can be.)
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To: PapaNew
"You have rights antecedent to all earthly governments; rights that cannot be repealed or restrained by human laws; right derived from the Great Legislator of the Universe."

-- John Adams

36 posted on 01/16/2013 7:18:36 PM PST by EternalVigilance (It's amazing how expensive "free" can be.)
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To: PapaNew
“Among the natural rights of the Colonists are these: First, a right to life; Secondly, to liberty; Thirdly, to property; together with the right to support and defend them in the best manner they can. These are evident branches of, rather than deductions from, the duty of self-preservation, commonly called the first law of nature. … it is the greatest absurdity to suppose it in the power of one, or any number of men, at entering into society, to renounce their essential natural rights, or the means of preserving those rights; when the grand end of civil government, from the very nature of its institution, is for the support, protection, and defense of those very rights; the principal of which, as is before observed, are Life, Liberty, and Property. If men, through fear, fraud, or mistake, should in terms renounce or give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the grand end of society would absolutely vacate such renunciation. The right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of man to alienate this gift and voluntarily become a slave.”

– Samuel Adams, The Rights of the Colonists, The Report of the Committee of Correspondence to the Boston Town Meeting, Nov. 20, 1772

37 posted on 01/16/2013 7:20:33 PM PST by EternalVigilance (It's amazing how expensive "free" can be.)
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To: PapaNew

Marriage is of a unique, sublime, ineffable nature. It is a God-breathed mystery. It is among His greatest gifts to mankind, the nexus of His eternal plan and all true, lasting, earthly riches. It is the foundational building block of all decent civic, governmental institutions. It is the basis of all true economics. It breeds peace and prosperity. It is the great stabilizer of civilizations. It is the well-spring and nursery of posterity. It must be protected, or America will fail and fall.

It is so fundamental, it must be protected on every front.


38 posted on 01/16/2013 8:16:56 PM PST by EternalVigilance (It's amazing how expensive "free" can be.)
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To: EternalVigilance
The document’s stated purposes are the legitimate purposes of this government.

Government and the Constitution run at cross-purposes.

The purpose of Government is coercion of others.

The purpose of the Constitution is coercion of government.

The Constitution as the RULE OF LAW is the ONLY means of limiting who the government may coerce - it is the chain on the fox guarding the hen house. The chain has been broken and the results are plain for all to see.

Marriage...is so fundamental, it must be protected on every front.

To make marriage a federal issue, you need a Constitutional amendment. That kind of amendment could come back and bite you, but without it, you simply want the government to usurp its Constitutional limitations because of something you (and I) value very much.

I am not prepared to trade any value I hold dear for tyranny because in the end, tyranny will destroy everything I hold dear anyway.

39 posted on 01/17/2013 5:11:56 AM PST by PapaNew
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To: PapaNew
Gay marriage is not a Constitutional issue, it's a states' issue.

Marriage becomes a federal issue if citizens of one state try to compel another state to recognize their relationship. Further, while it is often bad for courts to be overly proactive in addressing issues which are not relevant to immediate cases before them, accepting petitions for declaratory judgments is often good, since it allows people to know how the court would be likely to interpret various actions they might consider pursuing.

40 posted on 01/21/2013 3:43:45 PM PST by supercat (Renounce Covetousness.)
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