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To: Red Steel

Are we really going to claim the polls are wrong after this past election?

These were two polls actually (ABC/Wapo and Pew), and they both generally showed the same results.

America’s demographics are changing rapidly and the movement politically is to the left. Virtually all these new Hispanics are liberal voters and have no knowledge of why the 2nd Amendment is so important. We still lose sizable numbers of white people as the country becomes more urban and less rural. The younger generations seem wedded to government and don’t mind growing it to the moon. Heck we even lose Asians (a demographic we used to win not long ago) worse than we do even Hispanics. The country is moving in the wrong direction and that is reflected in public opinion. So why should we not believe these polls again?

This country really is in serious trouble. The right needs to unify pretty quick and find a way to stay on message and go on the offensive. As is we are just getting pummeled right now. I think another good place to start is for the producers that understand what is going on to start buying up as much media as possible. Wasting money on Karl Rove’s super PAC got us nowhere in 2012. This nation is on a downward spiral and I don’t know how much time we have left before it’s simply too late.


28 posted on 01/14/2013 4:42:53 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: Longbow1969

I’ll make a prediction. Feinstein is not going to get squat through Congress. This poll here doesn’t reflect reality.

However, Gallup’s poll is likely much more reflective which was posted above:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/2978129/posts?page=22#22


33 posted on 01/14/2013 4:58:41 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Longbow1969

Are the polls wrong? That’s a good question. Certainly after the disaster last November we shouldn’t be so quick to dismiss them. On the other hand, I don’t really doubt that pollsters would cook their results on something like gun control. But I’m not saying Pew and ABC have done so here. Frankly I’m surprised support for shredding the Second Amendment and banning ‘assault rifles’ isn’t above 70%.

But remember there was a Gallup poll taken in December that showed 51% opposed to banning ‘assault rifles’. And that was taken soon after the tragedy when one would expect support for gun bans to be highest. So which pollster is right? I don’t know. I hope it’s Gallup in this case.

I’m distressed by how almost all polls show strong majority support for some sort of gun registration/tracking system. I mean, this is undoubtedly the first step towards confiscation, so it makes no sense to me to support such a scheme if you also claim to support the right to own guns.

Your demographic analysis is spot on, unfortunately. The fastest growing ethnic groups - Asians and Hispanics - will not support the Second Amendment. They will support much stricter gun control. They will support various gun bans. So it’s absolutely true to say that our largely accidental, and mostly unwanted policy of unending mass immigration will play a major part in destroying the Second Amendment. I think it’s fair to say that to support mass immigration is to support the eventual destruction of gun owning rights.

I think it may already be too late. It’s pure fantasy to think the GOP will ever break even with immigrant communities. And with the GOP, led by Rubio and Ryan, about to sign on to amnesty for illegal aliens and increases in already-too-high levels of legal immigration, the demographic destruction of any conservative movement will be hastened. The only hope would be to avoid a path to citizenship for most illegals, and to reduce future legal immigration, but no Republican will run on such proposals.


51 posted on 01/14/2013 9:46:53 PM PST by Aetius
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