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Biden: W.H. readies 19 executive actions on guns
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Posted on 01/14/2013 5:10:08 PM PST by Sub-Driver

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To: Sub-Driver

Wait, wait, wait! It’s Biden speaking, and being quoted and discussed in POLITICO. Come on guys! Only by luck is there one true word anywhere in that article! Biden couldn’t find his own azz with both hands and a mirror in an echo chamber! We cannot kneejerk react to anything POLITICO writes, esp when the subject is one of the biggest liars on the planet!


101 posted on 01/14/2013 6:08:23 PM PST by austinaero
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To: Norm Lenhart
Your comments will get the respect they deserve.


102 posted on 01/14/2013 6:08:43 PM PST by doug from upland (Obama and the leftists - destroying our country one day at a time)
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To: Artcore

I voted for Romney..I didnt care for the guy but I still voted for him because I knew that the alternative was 10 million times worse. At least Romney loves America..Obama wants it gone..destroyed and he’s doing one hell of a job ensuring that happens..take away one freedom at a time before we ALL have no freedom left, just bow down and kiss Obama’s ring. I think in all of my life I have seen things as bad as they are right now..never imagined to see my country turn into what it has become


103 posted on 01/14/2013 6:09:56 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Ditto!


104 posted on 01/14/2013 6:11:25 PM PST by Artcore
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To: muawiyah

Excellent point. I have been saying the Republican party needs to get rid of RINOs since the primaries leading up to the 2008 election and that Romeny would not win because he is a flip flopper and basically a democrat himself.


105 posted on 01/14/2013 6:11:30 PM PST by Blue Highway
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To: doug from upland

Too bad you can’t ignore the fact that SOMEONE elected a bunch of compromising idiots that will not stand up and do their jobs. I wonder ...must have been democrats that voted for them.


106 posted on 01/14/2013 6:13:30 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: silentreignofheroes

Yes we are. Romney was at the bottom of my list, just ahead of Ron Paul. But he was the nominee and we had little choice — vote or stay home. Many voices said to stick with your principles, let Obama win, and Obama will lead to a conservative as Carter led to Reagan. The problem with that is in four more years of Obama there is no country left.


107 posted on 01/14/2013 6:13:30 PM PST by doug from upland (Obama and the leftists - destroying our country one day at a time)
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To: Ben Mugged

Why are any republicans waiting for that, they have enough on him to get him impeached even before he was re-elected.


108 posted on 01/14/2013 6:13:44 PM PST by Blue Highway
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To: fatnotlazy
I am convinced that only civil war, an uprising of ordinary citizens, will rid us of this evil cancer. We cannot rely on lawful means. All of our institutions have been corrupted and compromised. We the People must fight.

The slow death of creeping socialism has been happening for too long now to be able to turn it around.
109 posted on 01/14/2013 6:14:43 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: RandallFlagg

Oh h3!!

NOI’s use the number 19, don’t they?


110 posted on 01/14/2013 6:15:47 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: Marcella
"I think we all thought riots would happen when the economy collapsed. Perhaps we were wrong - perhaps stomping on our 2nd amendment rights begins the riots. As in, what happens if thousands/millions march against Washington with their fire arms? Hussein would call out some form of the military to put down the march. Would not the nation break down into riots when that happens?"

Maybe, but there is no sign that such a march is going to happen. The tea party movement, the NRA, GOA, etc. would need to organize such a drive and all of them are still trying to work within the system. We need a Martin Luther King type to rally everyone to surround the White House in the millions to stop the tyrant. Anything smaller will be put down and scattered resistance will just be used by Obama for further repression.

111 posted on 01/14/2013 6:16:51 PM PST by Truth29
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To: Newbomb Turk

Well said. We have not lost, we have only begun to fight. I do not understand all the alarmists here and other forums, crying about “What he/they/Obama can do,or will do. They(the administration) can only do what we let them. Our people have bought enough firepower in the last two months to end this in days if the flame is fanned to fire.
No one guaranteed us that we would never have to have another Revolution back in 1776, in fact, we have gone much longer without one than many other countries. I have several kinfolk serving in the military and I am very close to calling them and telling them we have a constitution to defend here at home.They know what the score is, and they are on the right side, as is most of the rest of the military.
If the communists want to scrap, then let’s have it.


112 posted on 01/14/2013 6:16:51 PM PST by Quickgun (I got here kicking,screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: doc1019; Dead Corpse
My bile level has finally reached flood stage, and my bullshit meter has broken it's needle. My self-enforced levee of human civility has been breached. Enough is e-gaddamn-nough! I do NOT suffer tyrants gladly.

"But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: for men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away, for his name is Obama."

113 posted on 01/14/2013 6:17:25 PM PST by Viking2002
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To: Blue Highway
“Excellent point. I have been saying the Republican party needs to get rid of RINOs since the primaries leading up to the 2008 election and that Romeny would not win because he is a flip flopper and basically a democrat himself.”
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Bull Sh*t!

These “Patriots” somehow imagined that a low life Marxist was better than Romney. How in the hell can you defend this?!?!

Guess what, with Romney (as bad as he was) we would've had a chance. Thanks to these selfish “Real Patriots” the country is gone! Fu*k those 3-4 million who either didn't vote, or voted third party. They hold some responsibility for where we're at right now! They had more contempt for Romney than a Marxist! They are not Patriots...they are supremely selfish a-holes!

114 posted on 01/14/2013 6:17:51 PM PST by Artcore
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To: eyedigress
I've never seen a "clip" that holds more than 10 rds.


115 posted on 01/14/2013 6:21:49 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Artcore

We voted for conservatives. Just look at what abandoning principle got you. A house filled with people refusing to stand up for the constitution.

As I said above...someone put them in office. So who is responsible? The people that stood on principle or the people that abandoned it to elect the very people selling the country down the river.

Simple deductive reasoning gets you the correct answer.

Or do you deny that putting compromises (AKA the unprincipled) in DC gave us this problem?


116 posted on 01/14/2013 6:21:59 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart; doug from upland

You nailed that one, Norm. And as always the Kool-Aid drinkers will ignore you.


117 posted on 01/14/2013 6:21:59 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Sub-Driver

President Perpetual Campaign Obama


118 posted on 01/14/2013 6:23:12 PM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Sub-Driver

It’s time for state and local LE to settle on which side they’ll take.


119 posted on 01/14/2013 6:24:21 PM PST by Born to Conserve
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To: TigersEye

Let them. They can lie to themselves but anyone thinking rationally knows that Balless Reopublicans were not elected by Democrats. They were elected by “Win at all costs/to hell with conservatives” voters.

That is just a proven fact. And the truth hurts.


120 posted on 01/14/2013 6:24:46 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Artcore

I am terrified for my country. Where we are headed, it does not look good..either we all stand up now to defend it or we wont have a country left. I dont own a gun, but I respect everyone’s right to have one..what Obama wants to do is EXACTLY what Hitler did..get rid of the guns so that he can have full control of the nation..its what the Communists have longed for in America, the total destruction of the 2nd Amendment..just even trying that, never thought I would ever be typing about a President wanting to destroy the 2nd Amendment but here we are


121 posted on 01/14/2013 6:26:15 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: fatnotlazy

and if you are selected for a jury when a fellow patriot is charged with these phoney gun charges you stand your ground on not guilty. If everyone charged held out for a jury trial this country’s judicial system would be overwhelmed.


122 posted on 01/14/2013 6:26:42 PM PST by Baum Threat
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To: doug from upland

“Romney was at the bottom of my list, just ahead of Ron Paul.”

Same here Cuz,,,,,We will prevail,,Hard times are what they are..We’ll make it,I believe GOD fearing people founded this Country and GOD fearing people will save this Country.It’s in the Oath.Take Care


123 posted on 01/14/2013 6:27:09 PM PST by silentreignofheroes
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To: SE Mom

Thanks for the BiteMe ping.


124 posted on 01/14/2013 6:27:35 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Sub-Driver

Notice to BHO, his enablers and the rest of the DC elite a-holes...

NORTON v. SHELBY COUNTY 118 U.S. 425 (1886)

“An unconstitutional act is not a law; it confers no rights; it imposes no duties; it affords no protection; it creates no office; it is in legal contemplation as inoperative as though it had never been passed.”

Case and syllabus link: http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/118/425/


125 posted on 01/14/2013 6:28:25 PM PST by CharlesMartelsGhost
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To: doug from upland
Thanks to all here who wanted to stop the Mormon. Thanks to those who went 3rd Party -— how did that Gary Johnson or Tom Hoefling vote work out? Look where we are now.

Yes, because mitt romney never created laws that would put people in jail for not buying health insurance and he never, ever made gun ownership a felony. Nope...not mitt. He would never do something like that. Oh...wait...

Let me guess...you're going to say he would not be doing the exact same thing that obama is doing right now. The only difference is you would also have the gop establishment telling you to shut up and sit down because you had nowhere else to go.

126 posted on 01/14/2013 6:28:41 PM PST by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: Viking2002

Amen.

Just don’t jump the gun. It’d be considered poaching to harvest out of season.

Soon, if they prove to be as stupid as we think they are.


127 posted on 01/14/2013 6:28:56 PM PST by Dead Corpse (Sine ullo desiderio vive et ama.... Carpe diem.)
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To: Sub-Driver

The more I think about it, I don’t think anyone that voted for Obama is mentally fit to own any firearm.


128 posted on 01/14/2013 6:28:56 PM PST by Gabrial (The nightmare will continue as long as the nightmare is in the Whitehouse.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

I believe you are right. America is already in the “dying process.” Many don’t yet quite see it yet, because of a ground perspective. But America is decaying at an increasingly exponential pace, courtesy this tyrant defiling the White House. Decaying economically, culturally, and morally.

A lot of folks think this process will be a slow, drawn-out affair, with the country gradually devolving into the kind of one-party, third-world socialist hell over a period of decades. But I’m thinking things might actually start unravelling at a very fast and unexpected speed, perhaps catching a lot of people by surprise.


129 posted on 01/14/2013 6:29:23 PM PST by greene66
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To: RandallFlagg
Savage...talked about on radio show. 1 or 2 would be easy to fight. To push 19 is an Alinsky move, knowing some will make it through. Forces opposition to have a scattered message fighting.
130 posted on 01/14/2013 6:30:48 PM PST by opentalk
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To: Norm Lenhart
It really doesn't matter now Norm, does it? This is something we will not come back from.

I remember during the Primary those “Pure Conservative” FReepers joining rags like Politico in the trashing of our candidates: “Sorry, Bachmann’s just not ready for prime time...”, “Sorry, but Cain isn't answering these allegations in the right way...” Yada, Yada! And then, these same idiots bitched because we got Romney!

As adults, we have to deal in reality. There's nothing noble about so-called conservatives having more contempt for Romney than a known Marxist. These “Patriots” had 3+ years to see what Obama had done, and his promise to do more, but still found more contempt for Romney.

Pathetic you choose to defend this. Fact: these “Patriots” helped ensure Obama won a second term. Are you really going to sit here and tell us Romney would be going after our guns right now? Pfft!

131 posted on 01/14/2013 6:31:56 PM PST by Artcore
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To: Sub-Driver
Has anyone found the 19 *executive* actions 0 is planning to attempt to use? Thanks.

(I couldn't find them in the sited article.)

132 posted on 01/14/2013 6:32:31 PM PST by Jane Long (Philippians 2:11)
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To: doug from upland
it was the very same bunch of RINOS that ran Romney who were saying Reagan couldn't win ~ the GOP-e has failed 11 times since Hoover to come up with a winning candidate, and every time they ran a Democrat that candidate lost worse than anyone could possibly imagine.

Conservatives were not saying Reagan couldn't win so don't try to blame us for Romney.

133 posted on 01/14/2013 6:33:44 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Marbury vs. Madison “Any law that is repugnant to the Constitution is null and void”


134 posted on 01/14/2013 6:35:38 PM PST by Captain7seas (Fire Jane Lubchenco)
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To: Truth29
“Maybe, but there is no sign that such a march is going to happen.”

I've been reading on FR all day and a number of Freepers are ready to hit the road to Washington. All those millions of weapons out in the country represent millions of people. I think such a march could happen.

Wait until Hussein's 19 executive orders come out later this week. Let's see what the mood of the country is then.

135 posted on 01/14/2013 6:36:17 PM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: Artcore

When you can explain how electing unprincipled people that refuse to stand for anything gets you constitution supporting results, let me know.

Because simple logic tells you it won’t.

And in fact, it got us the mess we are in with a house filled with Republicans that let libs walk over them daily.

Fact.

Deal with it.


136 posted on 01/14/2013 6:36:17 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: unixfox

I don’t have any guns, although I once considered getting one because I had to go to a rather remote place out in the county every so often and if the local meth freak attacked you, you’d be dead long before the sheriff’s dept even figured out where you were located. However, since I never did get one then and don’t feel I need to have one now, I don’t really have any personal involvement in this matter.

But when I was driving along and heard that horrible purple-lipped Muslim Marxist goon going on and saying “well, there are some actions I am going to take,” I almost ran off the road because I was cursing so much. I was even surprised myself by my vocabulary.

I just cannot believe this. How is it that we have we ended up with a dictator airily saying, “I am going to do...” something about a constitutionally protected right - and the entire country is not out in the streets?


137 posted on 01/14/2013 6:37:08 PM PST by livius
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To: Artcore
Artcore, those were the Mittbots trashing all the Conservatives, and even the less liberal of the conversos (people like Bachmann, the guy in Texas, and so on)

Out of the 16 signed on candidates for the nomination only 3 were lifelong Conservative Republicans.

138 posted on 01/14/2013 6:37:25 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: SE Mom

Drudge is leading with the impeachment headline now.


139 posted on 01/14/2013 6:38:34 PM PST by Miss Didi ("After all...tomorrow is another day." Scarlett O'Hara, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Viking2002

Viking, one of these days you are going to let your guard down and let us know exactly how you feel. ;-)


140 posted on 01/14/2013 6:39:07 PM PST by doc1019
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To: livius

it’s time to take cover from this idiot ~ going out in the streets will simply give him a chance to shoot somebody. he’s like the other idiot in Venezuela he thinks of so highly!


141 posted on 01/14/2013 6:39:07 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: subterfuge

Tom Graves will. His email of late:

Executive Order Threat On 2nd Amendment Rights

Friends,

On Wednesday, Vice President Biden said the White House is considering using executive orders to implement new gun restrictions.

I’m writing to make sure you saw my public response to the White House:

When the president’s policies cannot pass Congress, it means the American people have rejected them. A White House order for new gun controls would be in clear defiance of the will of the people and our democratic process. As a strong supporter of Second Amendment rights, I reject this threat from the White House and am prepared to introduce legislation to repeal any executive order that infringes on our right to keep and bear arms.

To my fellow Georgians and Americans, it’s important that you know I will defend our Second Amendment rights. I will use my seat in Congress to resist and repeal efforts by the White House that overstep executive authority, bypass the legislature and infringe on our rights.

The U.S. Constitution does not mince words: “...the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

For freedom,
Tom Graves


142 posted on 01/14/2013 6:39:56 PM PST by ctdonath2 (End of debate. Your move.)
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To: TigersEye
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Yep, breaking news for those who have fought the battle with me here since 1996 and for all of my adult life - DOUG FROM UPLAND IS A KOOL-AID DRINKER! Wow, I am finally exposed. You are Inspector Javert. Wait, or is it Inspector Clouseau? Tigers"Eye".....hmmmm, I think it should be another part of the tiger's body.
143 posted on 01/14/2013 6:40:12 PM PST by doug from upland (Obama and the leftists - destroying our country one day at a time)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

“He re-elected HIMSELF, America didn’t.”

I haven’t forgotten. Proof of the danger we are in. Corruption does not even begin to describe what we as Americans up against. He sits in the highest office of the land. There is nothing American about him.


144 posted on 01/14/2013 6:40:49 PM PST by selfdefense
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To: Marcella
I've been reading on FR all day and a number of Freepers are ready to hit the road to Washington. All those millions of weapons out in the country represent millions of people. I think such a march could happen.
There will already be tens [hundreds!] of thousands there marching for life on January 25. You could join right in...
145 posted on 01/14/2013 6:41:55 PM PST by mlizzy (If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic adoration, abortion would be ended. --Mother Teresa)
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To: Sub-Driver

Nineteen distinct unconstitutional infringements upon the Right of the People to Keep and Bear Arms.

Nineteen distinct violations of their respective oaths of office.

Nineteen distinct violations of the oath of office taken by any “law enforcement officer” or “federal law enforcement agent” that attempts to carry out these infringements.

FUBO

FUJB

FUJBT


146 posted on 01/14/2013 6:42:00 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Artcore

Hey, I voted for ROmeny holding my nose but I knew just like with McLame that he was not going to win out with the fraud the democrats always pull. Bottomline is until we get better candidates, we should expect to lose. It’s as simple as that.


147 posted on 01/14/2013 6:42:15 PM PST by Blue Highway
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To: Sarah Barracuda
“I am terrified for my country. Where we are headed, it does not look good..either we all stand up now to defend it or we wont have a country left. I dont own a gun, but I respect everyone’s right to have one..what Obama wants to do is EXACTLY what Hitler did..get rid of the guns so that he can have full control of the nation..its what the Communists have longed for in America, the total destruction of the 2nd Amendment..just even trying that, never thought I would ever be typing about a President wanting to destroy the 2nd Amendment but here we are”
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And yet there were those who held more contempt for Romney. In order to justify to utter stupidity and selfishness, they have to use the tired old line: “Hey, there's not one bit of difference between Romney and Obama.” They know in their hearts this wouldn't be happening if Romney won the election.

In the final analysis, these “Patriots” who stayed home on election night, or who voted third party, have succeeded at nothing (other than helping to give us Obama II). I can just imagine them sitting home on election night thinking to themselves: “I'll show them...They'll be sorry.” Their little fit accomplished nothing. Nobody is thinking of them, or their little “sacrifice.” Nope, now we're trying to figure out how to keep our guns.

These idiots know in their hearts, Romney would NOT be trying to take our guns away. Thanks for giving us Obama Patriots. you must be proud of your accomplishment!

148 posted on 01/14/2013 6:42:15 PM PST by Artcore
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To: Sub-Driver

Yeah, criminals are now going to obey those laws/sarc


149 posted on 01/14/2013 6:43:49 PM PST by RginTN
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To: Blue Highway

“Hey, I voted for ROmeny holding my nose but I knew just like with McLame that he was not going to win out with the fraud the democrats always pull. Bottomline is until we get better candidates, we should expect to lose. It’s as simple as that.”
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He didn’t win because 3-4 million people stayed home. To make this even more sickening; Obama received less votes this election than his first. So much for these “Patriots” insisting they didn’t help Obama win.

The damage has been done. We will not come back from this.


150 posted on 01/14/2013 6:44:40 PM PST by Artcore
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