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All aboard? Paul Ryan supports Marco Rubio’s immigration reform outline
Yahoo ^ | 14 Jan 2013 | Chris Moody

Posted on 01/14/2013 5:57:42 PM PST by Theoria

Former vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan says he supports "the principles" of an immigration reform proposal from Republican Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, a sign that the party may be coalescing around its own plan to overhaul the nation's laws.

"Senator Rubio is exactly right on the need to fix our broken immigration system," the congressman wrote on his Facebook page on Monday, with a link to a Wall Street Journal article that includes Rubio's key immigration goals. "I support the principles he’s outlined: modernization of our immigration laws; stronger security to curb illegal immigration; and respect for the rule of law in addressing the complex challenge of the undocumented population. Our future depends on an immigration system that works."

Republicans and Democrats are both in the early stages of building coalitions for support for what could be a major immigration bill later this year.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Florida; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: 2016election; amnesty; election2016; florida; immigration; marcorubio; no; noenforcementparty; nojobs; nomoreillegalvoyets; nowelfare; paulryan; rubio; ryan; whigparty; wisconsin

1 posted on 01/14/2013 5:57:54 PM PST by Theoria
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To: Bigtigermike

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2 posted on 01/14/2013 6:02:10 PM PST by Theoria
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To: Theoria
The basis of gun control is to restrict the rights of all citizens to stop a minuscule number of mentally ill from misusing guns.

Why can't we deport all of the illegals in response to the illegal aliens that run most of the interstate shipping of illegal drugs?

3 posted on 01/14/2013 6:08:43 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Theoria
The fake conservatives are showing themselves.

Maybe Ryan can come up with more fake numbers like his fake deficit-reducing budget that depended upon a mythical 5% annual growth in GDP.

4 posted on 01/14/2013 6:10:53 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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To: Theoria

The America we all grew up and and loved has been sold down the river. Hardly any of these people represent conservative Americans.

There has to be a money trail somewhere. Perhaps several.


5 posted on 01/14/2013 6:10:53 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Theoria

When is the treatment of American citizens in Mexico and their rights vs US treatment of Mexicans going to be an issue when we discuss amnesty ?

Ever hear of reciprocal aggrements ? These are arranged to protect the rights of American citizens working or living in other countries.

Why is it when it comes to citizens of other countries we are required to offer them the same privledges as we do to US citizens? But when it comes to US citizens who get in trouble or attempt to do business in other countries they do not get the same treatment their citizens get.

Americans can’t own coast land in Mexico. And get no title to it elsewhere. If they run out of cash they’ll get unceremoniously sent back or put in jail untill some relative comes up with the “fresh”. That’s just for starters as for granting them voting privledges yea let’s give Mexican citizens that right when American citizens vote in their elections


6 posted on 01/14/2013 6:10:58 PM PST by mosesdapoet ("To punish a province let a professor rule it." Frederick The Great paraphrased)
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To: Theoria
stronger security to curb illegal immigration

If we believe that, we get the Brooklyn Bridge for free and the Golden Gate bridge thrown in as a bonus.

Yeah, the FED curbing illegal immigration. When they institute efforts to actually STOP it, then it might be worth considering. Until then, it is just more of the same bait-and-switch.
7 posted on 01/14/2013 6:11:44 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I expect/suspect Rand Paul to get on board. My tolerance for this is over.


8 posted on 01/14/2013 6:15:22 PM PST by Theoria
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9 posted on 01/14/2013 6:17:56 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("Liberalism is the larval form of socialism." - - - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: Theoria

to hell with both of them!!!

The only thing broken is a lack of enforcement of existing law!!!

Prosecute every person hiring one, business or homeowner,and they will be gone within 6 months!!!


10 posted on 01/14/2013 6:18:21 PM PST by dalereed
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To: Theoria; All

I wasted my vote on an Amnesty Liberal. Lied to Again

I supported Ryan over Rubio for VP because of Rubio being Amnesty Liberal. Heck, I think “Ryan” translates to “Rubio” in Spanish

Any form of Illegal Alien Amnesty is Anti-American Bigotry. We need our borders secure, and all Illegal Aliens DEPORTED.

Paul Ryan...you are an Anti-American Bigot, and an Amnesty Liberal.


11 posted on 01/14/2013 6:20:12 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (The only automatic weapon is the one Obama uses to take your paycheck)
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To: Theoria

Sounds good to me. Rubio has broken this down into separate segments dealing with different aspects of immigration (ranging from farm workers to techies) because he doesn’t want the Dems to have one big bill to which they can start attaching things.

If people don’t make constructive comments and get behind reasonable reforms, we’re going to have the Dems supporting implementation of an executive order for 100% Muslim African immigration thanks to Obama. No kidding, because Obama has already taken away from our existing legal immigration to give those slots to Muslims.

We need to have something he can’t tinker with.


12 posted on 01/14/2013 6:26:05 PM PST by livius
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To: livius

What are you trying to spin here ?

His proposal drags 15 million people here.
All Dem voters !

We have millions unemployed now !
There are no jobs !
They have gone overseas !

Give me a link to the Muslim crap which I do believe .


13 posted on 01/14/2013 6:38:08 PM PST by ncalburt (Axelrod Psych OPS has gone to 24/7 non stop - "The election is over " status until Nov)
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To: livius

Sounds good to me. Rubio has broken this down into separate segments dealing with different aspects of immigration (ranging from farm workers to techies) because he doesn’t want the Dems to have one big bill to which they can start attaching things.

If people don’t make constructive comments and get behind reasonable reforms, we’re going to have the Dems supporting implementation of an executive order for 100% Muslim African immigration thanks to Obama. No kidding, because Obama has already taken away from our existing legal immigration to give those slots to Muslims.

We need to have something he can’t tinker with.


What part of Illegal Alien Amnesty don’t you get?

There is no need to re-do “Immigration Laws”. The laws are already on the books. Enforce the current laws...not act like so Big Government Liberal and create 1000s of new laws

If you are not for 100% Deportation of all Illegal Aliens...it is Amnesty. Plain and simple

Illegal Alien Amnesty is Anti-American Bigotry


14 posted on 01/14/2013 6:38:15 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (The only automatic weapon is the one Obama uses to take your paycheck)
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To: Theoria

All aboard the idiot train!!


15 posted on 01/14/2013 6:40:35 PM PST by vmivol00 (I won't be reconstructed.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Yep, these frauds are backing our country’s demise.

“Respect for the rule of law in addressing the complex challenge of our country’s illegal immigrant population”?

That’s exactly what these clowns are spitting on.

The sooner we all realize that even our ‘young gun’ GOP leadership is rotten to the core, the better.


16 posted on 01/14/2013 6:42:40 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Theoria

I smell the Dems hired a PR firm to handle the amnesty push now !
Commie Chris Moody is a dedicated obamabot !

I noticed all these GOP likes amnesty stories full of half truths in the Obama media news cycle !

All the signs of a PR firm
Hired to ram this thru !


17 posted on 01/14/2013 6:44:00 PM PST by ncalburt (Axelrod Psych OPS has gone to 24/7 non stop - "The election is over " status until Nov)
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To: 9YearLurker

We are so farked!


18 posted on 01/14/2013 6:45:19 PM PST by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: Theoria

The comments on Ryan’s FB page, below this ridiculous post, are hilarious. He’s getting bashed.


19 posted on 01/14/2013 6:46:34 PM PST by Jane Long (Philippians 2:11)
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To: 9YearLurker

You are right.
Ryan is a snake and a lobbyist stooge just like Bonehead .
The Chamber of commerce / WSJ , lobbyists own him , huge amnesty groups..


20 posted on 01/14/2013 6:47:07 PM PST by ncalburt (Axelrod Psych OPS has gone to 24/7 non stop - "The election is over " status until Nov)
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To: Theoria
At a minimum the only Conservative position is two-fold. (1) current illegals go home, and (2) border controls get stiffened and enforced.

There really isn't any other position ~ actually, if Rubio and Ryan got their way I and my associates would DEMAND a quota for an equal number of people from India who already have graduate degrees.

They'd even pick the apples for less than the Jamaicans for a couple of years, and do stoop labor without kvetching ~ then work a few years and go back home to live like millionaires (without having to wear winter coats indoors in this country).

We will need those guys if they let all the current crop of uneducated and unskilled latinos in because somebody will need to earn the big bucks to pay the taxes Obamugabe has imposed on the rich.

21 posted on 01/14/2013 6:47:36 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Have you noticed all the stories about
Gee the GOP has to do something after the 2012 election
blah blah from the media and know it all bloggers on Hotair !
Lets give the Dem 15 mil more voters that will help the GOP look good !!
Suckers !!!!!!

I think this gun issue is a huge pr distraction to ram thru amnesty !
Distract the fighters elsewhere and quietly ram this thru !


22 posted on 01/14/2013 7:03:26 PM PST by ncalburt (Axelrod Psych OPS has gone to 24/7 non stop - "The election is over " status until Nov)
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To: Theoria

Where does he get off saying,Our future depends on an immigration system that works.”.. How about our future depends on sending back these illegals.Their countries need the best and brightest at home. They keep sending everyone here and nobody is left there to help their countries advance.How is Obama with the high unemployment rate intending to find jobs for the 12 million Plus illegals and their incoming family memebers and finding jobs for Americans at the same time? Obama is replacing America workers with 3rd word country workers will work for 3rd world wages.


23 posted on 01/14/2013 7:14:58 PM PST by moonshinner_09
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To: Theoria; Liz; AuntB; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; NFHale; ...
RE : Former vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan says he supports “the principles” of an immigration reform proposal from Republican Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, a sign that the party may be coalescing around its own plan to overhaul the nation's laws.
“Senator Rubio is exactly right on the need to fix our broken immigration system,” the congressman wrote on his Facebook page on Monday, with a link to a Wall Street Journal article that includes Rubio’s key immigration goals. “I support the principles he’s outlined: modernization of our immigration laws; stronger security to curb illegal immigration; and respect for the rule of law in addressing the complex challenge of the undocumented population. Our future depends on an immigration system that works.

Paul Ryan?? The uber conservative budget wizard boy wonder?

Speaking of demanding a budget from O, Paul, lets see your estimates for how much amnesty will cost taxpayers.

24 posted on 01/14/2013 8:34:25 PM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to O is NO principle!)
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To: sickoflibs; Liz; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Impy; Clintonfatigued; fieldmarshaldj
Three strikes, you're out:

1) Obama fiscal cliff "compromise" that royally screwed over Republicans

2) Rubio starts pimping "comprehensive" immigration reform

3) TBA

In only three short months, I've gone from really liking this guy to being wary of him. I'd HATE to think the Paulbots were right when they were making a bunch of noise and trashing Ryan after he was nominated. Paul Ryan's selection on the ticket is one of the reasons I voted FOR Romney. Now I can HONESTLY say I've "lost a lot of respect I had for him", unlike Colin Powell and Joe Lieberman who were non-conservatives and lying douchebags I never trusted from the start.

Please don't disappoint me again, Congressman Ryan. One more strike and you're out. 2016 is a long way away.

25 posted on 01/14/2013 9:04:34 PM PST by BillyBoy ( Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: Theoria

The GOP likes their cheap labor and cheap tarts. What part of ILLEGAL do these pander pimps refuse to comprehend?


26 posted on 01/14/2013 9:05:32 PM PST by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: BillyBoy; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Impy; Clintonfatigued; fieldmarshaldj
RE :”In only three short months, I've gone from really liking this guy to being wary of him. I'd HATE to think the Paulbots were right when they were making a bunch of noise and trashing Ryan after he was nominated. Paul Ryan's selection on the ticket is one of the reasons I voted FOR Romney.”

Early 2011 it dawned on me that he was a manufactured conservative cult hero. It started with that ‘Obama-care debate’ he took part in 2010.
Then the budget wizard proposed the Ryan Medicare plan which was never intended to get near being law.
That got Rush and CO pumping him up to be that conservative messiah to counter O , but didnt work out to well.)

But my personal favorite was when he was running with Romney last year and he got on Sunday News show (Laura OD CBS I think) and denied he ever supported the automatic defense cuts in budget control act, the act that a year earlier he called ‘historical bipartisan deficit reduction agreement’ on the floor of the House.

Ryan is just another tool, propped up to be something he's not by a desperate party. We had plenty of make believe heroes the past few years a true sign of desperation. .

27 posted on 01/14/2013 9:32:14 PM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to O is NO principle!)
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To: sickoflibs; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; randita

I remember I was mildly enthused about the VP choice and you were like “nope” he’s a firm part of the establishment. ;)

I wasn’t excited when he was being pushed as a possible challenger to Boner since they seem to be on the same page and I don’t want him to run in 2016, I don’t think he’s the right man. Being in Congress right now is not conducive to electability anyhow. Governors.


28 posted on 01/14/2013 10:00:17 PM PST by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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To: BillyBoy

Supporting Bush-boy Rubio’s comprehensive immigration reform is a one-striker for me—automatic elimination.


29 posted on 01/14/2013 10:22:24 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: F15Eagle

I don’t think what I hear and see about a lot of political machinations today revolves only around conservatism or any other belief. What is going on is a piece by piece destruction/removal of our Constitutional government which is or should be the whole ball of wax of our government. Today at least 50% of people in this Nation know little and care less about what the Founders intended and even warned what could happen if generations of people denied what They were setting up. Obama publicly remarked that there should be changes to our Constitution and this should have been a warning if they cared. The 4th of July is just so much party time for most people as are other holidays to commemorate what happened to keep the ‘Spirit of ‘76. I believe it is not just Conservatism that has been sold down the river but the “Spirit of ‘76.


30 posted on 01/14/2013 10:32:50 PM PST by noinfringers2
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To: Theoria

Sure (shrug) I’m “on board”. The requirements are beyond onerous - - which, of course, is the idea. The Rubio plan may as well ask illegal aliens to cough up a million bucks for legalized residency in the US. So yeah, I’m on board. Why not?


31 posted on 01/14/2013 10:46:04 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Impy; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; randita
RE :” I remember I was mildly enthused about the VP choice and you were like “nope” he’s a firm part of the establishment. ;)

He voted with the GOP under Bush for medicare prescription drug entitlement, and everything else....what did he ever accomplish?
then FF to early 2009 proposes a ‘plan’ to ‘reform’ medicare that ‘protects’ 2009 level benefits for those over 55 and even restores the O-care cuts, and he says ‘He have to be brave and tell the rest of you the truth, we will be out of money by then, Sorry, too bad you were not born earlier..
Gee, how did that happen? One House vote early 2009 and we never hear about it again.

Another BS nothing going no-where.

RE :” I wasn’t excited when he was being pushed as a possible challenger to Boner since they seem to be on the same page and I don’t want him to run in 2016, I don’t think he’s the right man. Being in Congress right now is not conducive to electability anyhow. Governors.

Pushed to challenge Bohner?

That's another fantasy that anyone would be doing that.
Add this to the Ryan medicare reform 'plan'. Much to do about nothing.

32 posted on 01/15/2013 5:03:41 AM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to O is NO principle!)
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To: Impy; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; randita

sorry, I was off by 2. The Ryan plan was early 2011 not 2009.


33 posted on 01/15/2013 5:33:01 AM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to O is NO principle!)
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To: sickoflibs
Pushed to challenge Bohner?

There was a thread about. Google confirms I didn't imagine it.

The whole plot to remove Boner was a fantasy.

34 posted on 01/15/2013 10:38:09 PM PST by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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To: Impy
RE :”The whole plot to remove Boner was a fantasy”

As I have pointed out repeatedly.

Between plan B and jan 1, I posted comments in about a dozen threads here challenging freepers going with this to call their favorite uber-conservative R party Tea party House member, like lou Gohmert of TX, and tell him to run for Speaker. Of course none of them would, praising them for voting for Mickey Mouse was much easier.

It all was just hot air.

35 posted on 01/16/2013 4:41:18 AM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to O is NO principle!)
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