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Biden: W.H. eying 19 executive actions on guns
Politico ^ | 1/15/13 | REID J. EPSTEIN

Posted on 01/15/2013 6:25:55 AM PST by LucianOfSamasota

The White House has identified 19 executive actions for President Barack Obama to move unilaterally on gun control, Vice President Joe Biden told a group of House Democrats on Monday, the administration’s first definitive statements about its response to last month’s mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School.

Later this week, Obama will formally announce his proposals to reduce gun violence, which are expected to include renewal of the assault weapons ban, universal background checks and prohibition of high-capacity magazine clips. But Biden, who has been leading Obama’s task force on the response, spent two hours briefing a small group of sympathetic House Democrats on the road ahead in the latest White House outreach to invested groups.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: 113th; banglist; bho44; bhobanglist; biden; deadhorse; guncontrol; secondamendment
Here we have the Executive branch, which has bribed the common people with property taken by force from their neighbors, to obtain a popular mandate which places them above the law. This is how Republics die. Ask any Roman how Gaius Julius Caesar did it.
1 posted on 01/15/2013 6:25:59 AM PST by LucianOfSamasota
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To: LucianOfSamasota

If he does, and the RINOs don’t initiate impeachment proceedings, things are going to get hot.


2 posted on 01/15/2013 6:29:16 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

Yes the Feds are so great with guns and overseeing their use - as in Fast and Furious. The Justice Dept could handle all this for us.


3 posted on 01/15/2013 6:35:11 AM PST by Hattie
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To: LucianOfSamasota
The DemocRATS! Doing what we always accuse the Republicans of wanting to do.

Our rights and freedoms are being taken away quickly. The contract between We the People and the government has been broken. The Bill of Rights is toast. We now have a dictatorship in this country.

4 posted on 01/15/2013 6:35:45 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (HealthCare IS NOT a right. The RIGHT to keep and bear arms is.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

And impeachment did how much good with Bill Clinton? And the Repubs controlled the Senate then.....

Who ended up being painted as the “bad guys”?

I agree they need to do it - should have already on other matters. But they need to do something with teeth in it.

And there are almost no Repubs in either House or Senate with any teeth.....


5 posted on 01/15/2013 6:35:49 AM PST by Arlis (.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
If he does, and the RINOs don’t initiate impeachment proceedings, things are going to get hot. THE GOP WILL NOT EXIST ON NOV 8, 2016.
6 posted on 01/15/2013 6:39:09 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Arlis

At this point, anything is better than nothing, but nothing is what they will do.


7 posted on 01/15/2013 6:39:15 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The Battle of Athens was an armed rebellion led by WWII veterans and citizens in Athens and Etowah, Tennessee, United States, against the tyrannical local government in August 1946.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2973628/posts


8 posted on 01/15/2013 6:44:29 AM PST by bigtoona
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To: Cheerio

On MSNBC this morning, Joe RINO and the Lefitists were begging the GOP to “embrace moderates like Colin Powell” to make the Republican Party stronger.

This tells you everything you need to know about the current GOP. It needs to die. The RINOs should join the Big Government Party that wins elections, the Democrats. Patriots who believe in individual rights as recognized by the Constitution ought to oppose them with every fiber of their being. There is no middle ground.


9 posted on 01/15/2013 6:45:29 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: bigtoona
Nobody was hurt in that one.

Next time we won't be so lucky.

10 posted on 01/15/2013 6:57:04 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

2013 will be 45 years of Gun laws and Gun bans.
All of which were going to make America safer.
And all of which have failed.
Talk about being, “Stuck On Stupid”.


11 posted on 01/15/2013 7:01:40 AM PST by EXCH54FE (Hurricane 416)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
"If he does, and the RINOs don’t initiate impeachment proceedings, things are going to get hot."

That means you, spineless republicans. Aiding and abetting domestic enemies through cowardly inaction makes you a domestic enemy.

12 posted on 01/15/2013 7:04:19 AM PST by SENTINEL (Kneel down to God. Stand up to tyrants. STICK TO YOUR GUNS !)
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To: EXCH54FE
2013 will mean 79 years of unconstitutional gun laws and gun bans.
13 posted on 01/15/2013 7:08:11 AM PST by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

But Biden, who has been leading Obama’s task force on the response, spent two hours briefing a small group of Democrats


Sitting around for two hours eating canape’s and getting drunk off taxpayer bought booze.


14 posted on 01/15/2013 7:16:54 AM PST by Venturer
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To: LucianOfSamasota

My healthcare was the last entitlement under the American social contract that any of you people are going to be taking from me.

There’s nothing else to say.


15 posted on 01/15/2013 7:17:41 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Thought Puzzle: Describe Islam without using the phrase "mental disorder" more than four times.)
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To: LucianOfSamasota
Reading that article leads me to believe the leftists are already on the brink of calling this campaign against guns a near total loss. There has been the overwhelming and unreported power of the public's negative response to all this talk. You can get a good enough scent of the raw numbers by looking at nothing other than gun and ammo sales. With Biden admitting all they can get done via EO is enforce existing law, I'm thinking they won't even get a positive vote on a magazine ban. This is political poison and they all know it.

After all this smoke clears, all they will have accomplished is making us a lot poorer and gun dealers a lot richer.

16 posted on 01/15/2013 7:28:05 AM PST by FunkyZero (... I've got a Grand Piano to prop up my mortal remains)
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To: Durus
Yes, you are correct. I will update to 79 years using this information
A famous and widely publicized case where fully automatic weapons were used in crime in the United States was during the Saint Valentine's Day massacre during the winter of 1929; this Prohibition-era gangster sub-machine gun mass murder led directly to the National Firearms Act of 1934, which was passed over a year after Prohibition had ended. Since 1934, fully automatic weapons have been heavily regulated by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF), but ones manufactured before May 19, 1986 are available to citizens who are not otherwise prohibited, in those states that do not prohibit them, upon paying a $200 transfer tax, submission of a full set of fingerprints on FBI Form FD-258, certification provided by the local chief of police, sheriff of the county, head of the State police, or State or local district attorney or prosecutor, and approval by the BATF.
A larger number of years only makes Gun Laws even more stupid.
17 posted on 01/15/2013 7:36:10 AM PST by EXCH54FE (Hurricane 416)
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To: Arlis

“Who ended up being painted as the “bad guys”?”
***********************************************
[rhetorical answer to your rhetorical question]

The Left controls the media.

The media controls the “paint brush and palette”.

Conservatives will ALWAYS end up being painted as the bad guys, no matter what we do.

Therefore, since we will be labeled (libeled?) the bad guys anyway, DO THE RIGHT THING!

The old school-yard rhyme said, “Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me.”

If we (and the conservative members of Congress) are such wimps that we cower at the threat of mere words, what will we do when they bring out the “sticks and stones”?


18 posted on 01/15/2013 7:36:20 AM PST by BwanaNdege ("To learn who rules over you simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"- Voltaire)
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To: LucianOfSamasota
Rep. Steve Stockman (R-Texas) said today;

"The President’s actions are not just an attack on the Constitution and a violation of his sworn oath of office – they are a direct attack on Americans that place all of us in danger…If the President is allowed to suspend constitutional rights on his own personal whims, our free republic has effectively ceased to exist."

19 posted on 01/15/2013 7:49:39 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Humans have eliminated natural selection. Morons are now a protected species. They breed and vote.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
There are many patriots in our military and law enforcement. There isn't going to be public support for any government attack on American patriots. The movement is larger and more mainstream than it has ever been.

Reaching out to those who will have to enforce Obama’s tyranny is something that should continue, but there is no doubt already a significant support within those forces. Our military combat units could easily refuse action against other Americans on American soil. Refusing an order like this isn't the same as deciding to violently resist. As soon as one man stands up I think it would sat off a chain reaction.

I also don't think federal law enforcement want anything to do with even a small armed resistance. We have to remember that our times have changed. The vast majority of Americans can't even accept the realities of war anymore which is why we haven't won a war since WW2. Most Americans will sat on the sidelines, and after any significant resistance our law enforcement agencies like the ATF would lose their will once learning what it will cost to escalate the situation.

www.OathKeepers.org

20 posted on 01/15/2013 8:05:54 AM PST by ThermoNuclearWarrior (www.OathKeepers.org/oath/)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

Gee, here I assumed the executive branch couldn’t arbitrarily change the Constitution. Of course, I’d assumed a non-NBC could dictate to us and I’d assumed the other two branches and US citizens would stand up to such. I was wrong.


21 posted on 01/15/2013 8:30:32 AM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: ThermoNuclearWarrior
which is why we haven't won a war since WW2.

We won in Grenada. And we won the first desert storm in the 1990's.

22 posted on 01/15/2013 8:32:08 AM PST by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: ThermoNuclearWarrior

There will be blood.


23 posted on 01/15/2013 8:36:21 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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To: SENTINEL

“That means you, spineless republicans. Aiding and abetting domestic enemies through cowardly inaction makes you a domestic enemy. “

Yes, and that includes all you “ostriches” here on FR who think the solution to all our problems is to move to Texas (or some other place where you have to kick the cow $hit off your boots)! Just how does “being in Texas” solve your gun registration problem if this stuff passes. Inquiring minds want to know! Now let’s see, Oklahoma was originally setup as a place for all the indians. Maybe all the “decent people” should huddle there! All the Big Chief No Nuts here who want to cut and run may like that option.


24 posted on 01/15/2013 8:45:58 AM PST by vette6387
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To: LucianOfSamasota
Who knew that the president could change the Constitution with an auto-pen?

Maybe he plans to auto-pen himself the right to auto-pen changes. Yea, that works.

When is Obama planning on entering the House to start calling out names,
then have members dragged outside for extermination.

25 posted on 01/15/2013 8:53:12 AM PST by MaxMax (Gun free zones was the invitation to gun bans by the left, at any cost)
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To: FunkyZero
I keep thinking vote and Senate and House, also. But Obama is planning an executive order.
There will be no vote on any ban, there are not enough on either side to pass it.
And the fact that there's not enough also means there are many who would vote Yes.
26 posted on 01/15/2013 9:05:12 AM PST by MaxMax (Gun free zones was the invitation to gun bans by the left, at any cost)
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To: BwanaNdege

My point was that the Repubs need to do something that is effective, with teeth in it.

No, I don’t have any idea what.

They need to - but won’t - do something that will wound him politically or slow him down.


27 posted on 01/15/2013 9:17:08 AM PST by Arlis (.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“If he does, and the RINOs don’t initiate impeachment proceedings, things are going to get hot.”

Yep. This kind of thing is what the phrase “chit storm” was invented for.


28 posted on 01/15/2013 10:13:01 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Hattie
Yes the Feds are so great with guns and overseeing their use - as in Fast and Furious. The Justice Dept could handle all this for us.

The Justice Department will be much more thorough with the People than it could ever garner interests for in hindering the really bad guys.

29 posted on 01/15/2013 10:31:56 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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