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Man who helped Sandy Hook kids is harassed by conspiracy theorists
Yahoo News ^ | 1/15/2013 | Yahoo News

Posted on 01/15/2013 3:33:14 PM PST by Dallas59

A man who found six children in his driveway in Newtown, Conn., after their teacher had been shot and killed in last month's school massacre has become the target of conspiracy theorists who believe the shootings were staged.

“I don’t know what to do,” Gene Rosen told Salon.com. “I’m getting hang-up calls, I’m getting some calls, I’m getting emails with, not direct threats, but accusations that I’m lying, that I’m a crisis actor, ‘How much am I being paid?'”

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: banglist; connecticut; guns; kooks; sandyhook; shooting
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1 posted on 01/15/2013 3:33:29 PM PST by Dallas59
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To: Dallas59

Reason number 199028 why Alex Jones/Jesse Ventura types disgust me.


2 posted on 01/15/2013 3:35:41 PM PST by mnehring
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To: Dallas59

Beneath loathsome.


3 posted on 01/15/2013 3:36:45 PM PST by GSWarrior (Click HERE to read entire tagline.)
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To: Dallas59

Sad, but after Fast & Furious I absolutely understand why there is that public mood:

WHY do we have so much public doubt of authority?

Cuz they DESERVE it —ALL of it.


4 posted on 01/15/2013 3:39:18 PM PST by gaijin
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To: Dallas59

Not buying into the conspiracy nutjobs.

But.

The dudes own televised interview of the actions he took makes him look ridiculous.


5 posted on 01/15/2013 3:39:35 PM PST by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Dallas59

Leftist motto:
Never let a good crisis go to waste, even if we have to help it along.


6 posted on 01/15/2013 3:42:02 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda¬óDivide and conquer. FREEDOM OR FREE STUFF- YOU GET ONE CHOICE, CHOOSE WISELY)
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To: Dallas59
Sandy Hook fundraising relief page created 3 days before shooting, Google search results confirm
7 posted on 01/15/2013 3:43:02 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Dallas59

I feel sorry for the man, but there is a reason why these wacky conspiracy theories are out there. They are no more outrageous than the lies, the deceit and the denial of the truth that officials and the press have “reported” to us.

And just who benefits from wacky theories and suppression of the truth?

Liberals.


8 posted on 01/15/2013 3:43:02 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Dallas59

yahoo and salon makes you wonder.


9 posted on 01/15/2013 3:46:27 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Responsibility2nd
I feel sorry for the man, but there is a reason why these wacky conspiracy theories are out there.

Yep. The guy did what anyone would have done. They're going after the wrong villain.

10 posted on 01/15/2013 3:47:05 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Dallas59

The reason conspiracy theories work is because there is always a grain of truth which people can claim.
Jones is just nuts.


11 posted on 01/15/2013 3:47:34 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: Bryan24

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0grxxYGrE44

Oh I don’t know anything about ‘crisis actors” but this was the real actor, I guess. How many “parents” out there start laughing and giggling before they go on camera knowing their ‘child’ died...


12 posted on 01/15/2013 3:49:00 PM PST by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: concerned about politics

You do realize this is not true - right?


13 posted on 01/15/2013 3:51:28 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: Dallas59; All

This man should not be attacked...he seems to be one of the many that really tried to help the SH kids....unlike politicians

However, if you willy nilly belive the accounts of the Liberal MSM regarding Sandy Hook.....who repeatedly reported falsehoods as fact....you’re a bigger fool than any Conspiracy Theorist. This incident has been Obamas Reichstag Fire moment to kill the 2d Amendment


14 posted on 01/15/2013 3:52:10 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (The only automatic weapon is the one Obama uses to take your paycheck)
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To: mnehring

The conspiracy theorists aren’t all saying the massacre didn’t happen.. It’s WHO was behind the massacre and evidence conveniently destroyed (computer hard drive) as to WHO Adam was corresponding with that MUST be questioned here.


15 posted on 01/15/2013 3:52:25 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: concerned about politics
Your link is to a Truther website that is banned from FR.
16 posted on 01/15/2013 3:53:55 PM PST by Theoria
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

It isn’t a good idea to reveal that you know about ‘it’ on a public forum. You know ‘they’ are watching and making note of who knows the secret.


17 posted on 01/15/2013 3:54:03 PM PST by mnehring
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To: concerned about politics
That's nonsense. Look at these search results. There are results, including news reports and YouTube videos from June, September, October, and earlier in December. Google's dare indexing for search results can be pretty inaccurate, and is not strong evidence of anything.
18 posted on 01/15/2013 3:59:53 PM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Dallas59
I have to admit, the line between government conspiracy and reality is really fine lately. Considering how corrupt this government is and what they have gotten away with, it does make one pause, when thinking about these things, and what might or might not be a real hoax, IMO.

Behind the ‘Sandy Hook Truther’ Conspiracy Video That Five Million People Have Watched in One Week
19 posted on 01/15/2013 4:02:18 PM PST by Lucky9teen (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading.~Thomas Jeffer)
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To: Theoria
Your link is to a Truther website that is banned from FR.

Yeah. I saw the truther part. (There's a lot of links on the search page. That's just the one I grabbed first. It was the date I was after.)
I disagree with the truther part, BTW, but my daughter saw the Sandy Hook page herself and brought it to my attention. It really was posted, according to the date, 3 days before the shooting.

20 posted on 01/15/2013 4:02:48 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Dallas59

Forget this guy, who was the 2nd black t shirt and camo pants guy who was running past the school buildings and taken into custody in the woods?


21 posted on 01/15/2013 4:02:57 PM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: Sirius Lee

Proof please.

Yeah, I know. Ya ain’t got it. Oh well.......


23 posted on 01/15/2013 4:15:41 PM PST by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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To: Sirius Lee

What proof do you have this was true? Because it was “reported”? I remember on 9/11 reports that a car bomb blew up in front of the State Department. Reporters will pass along any rumor they hear as news during an event like this. Doesn’t mean it really happened.


24 posted on 01/15/2013 4:23:24 PM PST by bigdaddy45
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To: bigdaddy45; AppyPappy
Me: Question - "Forget this guy, who was the 2nd black t shirt and camo pants guy who was running past the school buildings and taken into custody in the woods?"

You two:

What proof do you have this was true? Because it was “reported”? I remember on 9/11 reports that a car bomb blew up in front of the State Department. Reporters will pass along any rumor they hear as news during an event like this. Doesn’t mean it really happened.

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AppyPappy to Sirius Lee Proof please.

Yeah, I know. Ya ain’t got it. Oh well.......

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Again, my question - " "Forget this guy, who was the 2nd black t shirt and camo pants guy who was running past the school buildings and taken into custody in the woods?""

Use your own eyes and look at the footage:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0DeMJyfZ4Y

Appy? Have you an answer? "Who was the 2nd black t shirt and camo pants guy who was running past the school buildings and taken into custody in the woods?"

25 posted on 01/15/2013 4:39:28 PM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: Dallas59
I have no more truck with these "truthers" than I do for the 9-11 "truthers."

That said, this guy's story is a little strange. He says he got parent cell phone numbers from the bus company? Why didn't he call police or fire or the school district to let them know these kids were safe and where they were? How did these kids get out of the closet where they were hiding and past the gunman and the police? He says it was about 9:30 but the shooting started at 9:30. Why would a "bus driver" be at the school after the kids had been delivered and school started? If the kids ran out the front door of the school, the first structure they would come to is the fire station - where emergency services were mustering and kids were being taken. Why would they go past that to a private home? Why would he keep them at his house for "hours"? Why would this "bus driver" in whose care the children were left disappear and has never reappeared? Why hasn't any parent of a child who was at this house come forward?

I don't doubt the massacre, but I wonder if any reporters have checked out this guys story? It's probably useless to ask the question. The media would feel checking this guy out would put them in the "truther" camp.

26 posted on 01/15/2013 4:50:06 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
It’s WHO was behind the massacre and evidence conveniently destroyed (computer hard drive) as to WHO Adam was corresponding with that MUST be questioned here.

Let's nip this little issue right in the bud. The whole public is being led around by the nose on this 'destroyed' hard drive (which is really hard to do, btw, because I've done it twice).

If one wants to know WHO Adam Lanza corresponded with, what they use is the IP LOGS. I am sure no one would have a problem with a warrant being issued and the LEO's being allowed to see these LOGS from his IP Service.

The 'government' is saying he destroyed his hard drive, but his emails aren't stored on his hard drive. They are stored on his EMAIL service. So are yours.

The 'government' has access to everything he 'communicated', but they just don't want you to believe it IN THIS CASE.

27 posted on 01/15/2013 4:54:08 PM PST by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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28 posted on 01/15/2013 4:55:22 PM PST by RedMDer (Those that believe in gun free zones should wear GUN FREE ZONE T-SHIRTS.)
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To: concerned about politics
It really was posted, according to the date, 3 days before the shooting.

But one can 'make' anything appear to be 'real' or 'true' on the internet, just as they can on TV.

For instance, there has been a REDIRECT virus that takes you to a page that looks just like the GOOGLE search page, but isn't.

How does one verify on a media which is controlled by the very criminals we are after ?

29 posted on 01/15/2013 4:58:33 PM PST by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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To: Sirius Lee

I have been wondering about this since the incident happened. It was reported at the time, but it just disappeared...


30 posted on 01/15/2013 5:10:29 PM PST by antidisestablishment (Our people perish through lack of wisdom, but they are content in their ignorance.)
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To: colorado tanker

“I have no more truck with these “truthers” than I do for the 9-11 “truthers.”
That said, this guy’s story is a little strange. He says he got parent cell phone numbers from the bus company? Why didn’t he call police or fire or the school district to let them know these kids were safe and where they were? How did these kids get out of the closet where they were hiding and past the gunman and the police? He says it was about 9:30 but the shooting started at 9:30. Why would a “bus driver” be at the school after the kids had been delivered and school started? If the kids ran out the front door of the school, the first structure they would come to is the fire station - where emergency services were mustering and kids were being taken. Why would they go past that to a private home? Why would he keep them at his house for “hours”? Why would this “bus driver” in whose care the children were left disappear and has never reappeared? Why hasn’t any parent of a child who was at this house come forward?

I don’t doubt the massacre, but I wonder if any reporters have checked out this guys story? It’s probably useless to ask the question. The media would feel checking this guy out would put them in the “truther” camp.”

I don’t find your questions out of line. I don’t believe the story I was given. It was indeed a very unfortunate tragedy. i am certain that before obama is out of office there will be other events that will sadly make this seem like a distant memory.

I definately believe the murders did happen. However, I believed the killer was “programmed”. I will never have any proof, and I am not going to try to get any. I just find it weird that there is such a mad rush to grab guns ever since with the threat of using an Executive Order.


31 posted on 01/15/2013 5:16:56 PM PST by castlegreyskull
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To: UCANSEE2

Exactly.

This needs to be looked into by the government and/or the media, but nothing.


32 posted on 01/15/2013 5:23:41 PM PST by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: Lucky9teen

when you go to the link in #19, and read the direct replies to the piece, they are talking about how stupid people who give attention to this stuff are, & described Republicans just like democrats are......looked to me that they very much, in a concerted effort, are trying to stop these ideas about SH. it was 100% degrading to anyone interested in Sandy Hook questions.


33 posted on 01/15/2013 5:31:38 PM PST by stickywillie
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To: generally
This needs to be looked into by the government and/or the media, ....

Unfortunately, they are the CROOKS I am referring to, which is why these problems continue to happen.

Just today, at least TWO SCHOOL SHOOTINGS. How many tomorrow ?

34 posted on 01/15/2013 5:56:02 PM PST by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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To: Dallas59

Conspiracy mongers neglet to consider and keep in mind one very important truth, either by an erroneous atheist contruct of reality, or by a temptation to mindlessly connect a trail of dots that are based on specualtion instead of evidence, that there is one apex ultimate conspiracy above all conspiracies. That mankind is being preyed upon by a super natural being known as the devil. In order for the devil to completely control the globe, freedom must fall. The United States must fall. The free nation of the United States of American is the devil’s last great obstacle to global control of the souls of men through ultimate cohersion. If you accept this truth, everything else makes logical sense from that aspect. The influence of a supernatural being, turned evil, is the common influence/link between Adam Lanza, left-wing politicians who want to disarm the American poplulation, communists who are driven to dismantle capitalist America, and adherents of the “religion” of Islam who have been instructed to destroy “the great satan” America. For the most part, there IS NO formal agreement, covenant, or pact (aka. conspiracy) between these individuals and groups. They are, however, all being moved around like pawns on a chess board by the same player. The devil.

Ironic that the greatest conpiracy above all conspiracies, Alex Jones will probably never believe.~


35 posted on 01/15/2013 6:00:48 PM PST by CaptainKrunch
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To: Dallas59

There’s more to this story than we’re being told.

Who would go to the trouble of harassing him without motive?

Time this went Paul Harvey!


36 posted on 01/15/2013 6:15:08 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: max americana

Bingo!


37 posted on 01/15/2013 6:21:17 PM PST by blaveda (blaveda)
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To: max americana

Bingo!


38 posted on 01/15/2013 6:21:24 PM PST by blaveda (blaveda)
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To: svcw; concerned about politics

Just exactly why do you believe that it isn’t true?

The dates have been verified.


39 posted on 01/15/2013 6:21:54 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
Because the dates that appear next to Google search results are far from reliable. According to this, there were news reports and other information about the Sandy Hook shooting published as early as June. That's clearly not the case, and just goes to show that you can't rely on the Google search date.
40 posted on 01/15/2013 6:26:43 PM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: CaptainKrunch

Jones is a believer.


41 posted on 01/15/2013 6:27:50 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

Don’t let yourself get schmuckered by snopes; they are one of the least reliable sites on the web. They have fabricated so many “debunkings” that just the fact that they have weighed in tends to confirm that it is true.


42 posted on 01/15/2013 6:32:18 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Verified by whom - Alex Jones......New Agefoodism, neither source is reliable.
But hey conspiracies are fun.


43 posted on 01/15/2013 6:41:41 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: editor-surveyor

I didn’t link to Snopes. I linked to a set of Google search results for “Sandy Hook” shooting, date-limited to results prior to the shooting. There are many results, some with “dates” as early as June. The fact that Snopes made the same point does not negate the fact that the Google search results clearly demonstrate the inaccuracy of the “datres” next to each result.

Unless you think that all of the other results (including YouTube videos with footage from the day of the shooting) were also prepared before the shooting....


44 posted on 01/15/2013 6:41:53 PM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: svcw

Mike Adams is highly reliable.


45 posted on 01/15/2013 6:59:41 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Sirius Lee

There was no 2nd black t-shirt guy. They found a guy chopping wood near the school.

You guys will believe anything.


46 posted on 01/15/2013 7:03:37 PM PST by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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To: editor-surveyor
Mike Adams is highly reliable.

1. Even if this Mike Adams guy is "highly reliable", reliable != verified.

2. You continue to ignore evidence that the "dates" associated with Google search results are highly inaccurate, and prove nothing. Take a look here:

Are you telling me that there were videos about the Sandy Hook shooting uploaded to YouTube months before the shooting??

47 posted on 01/15/2013 7:16:28 PM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: editor-surveyor

Okaaa.
As I said before conspiracies are fun.


48 posted on 01/15/2013 7:41:07 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Dallas59.


49 posted on 01/15/2013 7:48:10 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: AppyPappy
Is that the guy in the camo pants? I was trying to figure out who the guy was that they led away in handcuffs and was telling people, "I didn't do it", as he was led away. All this other stuff is 9/11 InfoWars fluff, like the premature Facebook page.

The only other thing that's weird is the attitude of some of the parents of the slain kids. But then again, I think everyone from New England is a little weird.

50 posted on 01/15/2013 9:29:23 PM PST by GunRunner (***Not associated with any criminal actions by the ATF***)
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