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Anderson Cooper Goes After ĎAnonymous Internet Trollsí Pushing Conspiracies About Newtown And Gun
Mediaite ^ | 1/15/13 | Josh Feldman

Posted on 01/15/2013 6:27:07 PM PST by Nachum

Last week Anderson Cooper took on some of the more ridiculous conspiracy theories about the tragic Sandy Hook shooting, one in particular claiming that the shooting simply never happened. But tonight, Cooper took on perhaps one of the most shocking theories of all: the whole shooting was a gigantic conspiracy to take away people’s guns.

Cooper reminded viewers of the Florida professor who has been pushing the conspiracy theories, and revealed that said professor reacted to his initial report with a blog post attacking Cooper for “wanting to cause him harm.” Cooper said that the professor has his rights to free speech, and just wanted to hold him accountable for his comments. The professor is also part of a growing conspiracy that the media is falsely reporting on the shooting in a concerted effort to take away people’s guns.

Cooper patiently debunked theories about the media coverage of the shooting, and brought on two guests, one of whom was the family member of an Aurora shooting victim, to address the conspiracies. Cooper pointed out much of the evidence cited is based on initial reporting, which Cooper admitted can often be inaccurate. Alex Seitz-Wald said many conspiracy theorists are taken in by confirmation bias and ignore any evidence that contradicts their conspiratorial beliefs.

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Cooper found it “offensive” that these “anonymous internet trolls” would doubt the believability of a grieving parent.

Full title: Anderson Cooper Goes After ‘Anonymous Internet Trolls’ Pushing Conspiracies About Newtown And Gun Control

1 posted on 01/15/2013 6:27:19 PM PST by Nachum
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To: All

Can’t imagine who these “anonymous internet trolls” might be...

http://www.nachumlist.com/deadpool.htm


2 posted on 01/15/2013 6:29:25 PM PST by Nachum (Back on the Google blacklist- www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

My only question is about the gun used. NBC said the FBI reported that 4 handguns were found in the school and the rifle was found in the car.

http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/50208495#50208495


3 posted on 01/15/2013 6:32:31 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Nachum

The Left will milk this tragedy for all its worth.


4 posted on 01/15/2013 6:33:18 PM PST by allendale
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To: cripplecreek

You may get a glimpse at the official Newtown police report in about oooh a year from now.


5 posted on 01/15/2013 6:35:44 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: cripplecreek

A shotgun was removed from the trunk of Adam’s vehicle, at night oddly enough.. The question is, why would Lanza use a long range rifle to kill children 30 feet away when he had hand guns in his possession? Oh that’s right, it’s the long range ‘assault weapon’ rifles that the gov’t wants to ban because those are the ones THEY fear the most could be used against THEM. So it’s only fitting that Lanza would use the rifle, otherwise 0bama would have to act to ban handguns and that’s a less realistic door opener to banning all guns.


6 posted on 01/15/2013 6:36:54 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: Nachum

I watched the YouTube video about the conspiracy. I expected it to be ridiculous. It was not.


7 posted on 01/15/2013 6:38:07 PM PST by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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To: Red Steel

It’s interesting how specific the report is. “4 handguns and ONLY handguns” were found in the school.


8 posted on 01/15/2013 6:39:27 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

Nooooooo... Medical examiner said on live television that all wounds made by rifle rounds, 3-11 bullet wounds per child. But, medical examiners are wrong from time to time, right.


9 posted on 01/15/2013 6:44:07 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: jdsteel

The one video that that made say WTF’ was the “parent” who was caught laughing , and once the cameras rolled, he was caught faking his tears..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMINqFGNr-w


10 posted on 01/15/2013 6:44:07 PM PST by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: Nachum

“Cooper patiently debunked theories about the media coverage of the shooting, and brought on two guests, one of whom was the family member of an Aurora shooting victim, to address the conspiracies.” Did he have any Sandy Hook
Parents on his show?


11 posted on 01/15/2013 6:44:07 PM PST by funfan
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To: cripplecreek

ME said most victims were killed with rifle. The rifle was taken from the trunk. I’m confused.


12 posted on 01/15/2013 6:45:19 PM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: funfan

I was sort of looking forward to Cooper interviewing that parent that was chuckling until he saw the cameras were rolling.


13 posted on 01/15/2013 6:45:47 PM PST by Nachum (Back on the Google blacklist- www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

The pravda media was unconcerned when conspiracy kooks repeated the “Bush Knew” mantra (including Sen. Hillary Clinton from the floor of the Senate) regarding 9-11. 7 long years.

Selective outrage.

Typical.


14 posted on 01/15/2013 6:46:01 PM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Nachum
hmm, Anderson Cooper is really off-base there ~ the parents of the victims WERE NOT THERE!

Having myself warned folks in the initial hours when the bodies were still warm to WAIT to make judgments since so much of the news media reporting is going to consist of unsubstantiated rumors for several days, Anderson would be well advised to leave it at that.

What we need to know now are answers to the question of why, when obvious brain dysfunction is present, you'd have Obama picking Joe Biden to be his point man in the regime's efforts.

Everybody knows Biden has had brain surgery three times ~ unsuccessfully! He has a personal stake in the outcome and undoubtedly will do everything he can to lead the regime's involvement totally away from psychiatric concerns, and certainly away from organic brain injury ~ which, so far, is exactly what he has done. I predicted it, and that's what happened, ergo, my belief that Obama is engaged in some sort of coverup is probably correct.

With this sort of behavior coming from Obama no wonder there are a gazillion other conspiracy theories out there!,

What we need is a LINK between Holmes, Lanza, their family members, and anybody in the Regime ~ but that hasn't popped up yet. That will probably take some time but I wouldn't let the idea be set aside ~ particularly not by Anderson Cooper.

15 posted on 01/15/2013 6:47:42 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Nachum
Typical Obot Modus Operandi ... spend the first 10 minutes defining the conspiracy theories you'll be willing to discuss which vaguely reflect unanswered questions.

And spend the rest of time mocking the conspiracy theories you've previously defined until you announce all of the conspiracy theories you previously defined are debunked.

C'Mon Anderson, How did United Way of Western Connecticut know about the Sandy Hook shootings two days before they occurred?



16 posted on 01/15/2013 6:49:03 PM PST by SvenMagnussen (TINKER, TAILOR, SOLDIER, SPY)
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To: cripplecreek

“NBC said”

There’s your first clue that it was a lie


17 posted on 01/15/2013 6:53:13 PM PST by Figment
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Could also be because that is what he had the most ammo for. The shotgun would have been a better choice and really made a mess


18 posted on 01/15/2013 6:56:05 PM PST by Figment
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
'why would Lanza use a long range rifle to kill children 30 feet away when he had hand guns in his possession?'

Why? Because it was /is a great tool to kill people with. 30rd mags, simple operation, can be fired easily, low recoil, etc. The AR-15 is a nice tool. That's why.

19 posted on 01/15/2013 6:56:31 PM PST by Theoria
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To: Nachum
The govt using the media to blow a bag of buffalo chips to subvert the 2nd amendment?

Almost as plausible as the govt supplying military arms to Mexican narco terrorists!

20 posted on 01/15/2013 6:59:56 PM PST by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: ilovesarah2012

There was a shotgun taken from the trunk, not a rifle


21 posted on 01/15/2013 7:00:30 PM PST by Figment
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To: Nachum
What bothers me is the silence about the shooters. You'd think the guns walked to the school all by themselves.

Their computers were confiscated. Had any of these guys been FR members or TEA party members, it would have been world news for weeks. Obviously, they weren't, or we'd have heard about it. BUT...there's silence. Who where these guys talking to? Were they visitors to the Occupy website? Were they members of a group? Did they hang out at the Daily Cos? How come we're not hearing anything about what may have "nudged" them into doing what they did?

The reason I question this is because of a similar story. A family from our old church had a son with a skin issue. When he got old enough to date, he couldn't find a girl, and was distraught because of his acne scars. He spent a lot of time on the net. Being in despair, he found a group on a Goth website.
One day, his parents found him hanging in his room. Later, after the funeral, they checked his computer. There was someone on the site saying "Just do it! Get it over with! Just do it and get it over with."
Now I don't know if he would have done it on his own, or whether the "nudging" gave him the guts to actually do it. Personally, I don't think he could have done it on his own. I think his "Internet" friends goaded or "nudged" him into doing it.

The timing of all these shooters sends up a red flag for me. The UN wants a list of all US gun owners via the Small Arms Treaty, and Hillary signed on. All of a sudden, young people taking medications that have violence and suicide as side affects, are out shooting people. Is someone, or some group, "nudging" them on to get that UN agreement completed?

People sense things, even though they can't explain why they're "smelling something fishy." They just know something isn't right. Because of all these conspiracy theories popping up so fast out of nowhere, I believe there's a lot more to the story than we're being told. Something is not right, and people sense it.
The preppers, for example, are preparing for something, but they don't exactly know what. They just are. They sense something bad coming. They just "know."
The problem with conspiracy theories is trying to put a name on "what" the "fishy smell" is. Like preppers, they all have their own idea of "what" the world wide event will be. There's all kinds of threats, but, they all still sense the threat. Trying to put a name on "it" is what makes it sound crazy.

22 posted on 01/15/2013 7:00:55 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: concerned about politics

Didn’t they take the older brother’s computer also?


23 posted on 01/15/2013 7:10:09 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: Figment

.223 Shells Recovered Inside School Building, Rifle In Trunk: Newtown

http://www.w3va.com/video/28126/223-Shells-Recovered-Inside-School-Building-Rifle-In-Trunk-Newtown-Connecticut-School-Shooting


24 posted on 01/15/2013 7:23:06 PM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: WildHighlander57
Didn’t they take the older brother’s computer also?

Yep. Not a word about who these guys had contact with. Absolute silence.
Now imagine if one of these guys were TEA party members. See the difference? The media would have given the world his entire life story. Remember when they had the wrong person and blamed the the TEA party guy within minutes? How about when they guy flew the plane into a federal building in Texas? They immediately set out to prove he was right winger who hated the IRS.

The shooters connections are deemed "classified" by someone, for some reason. I think people are noticing the silence. I can't help but think those computers will show a "nudge" related to every one of them. Because they were all on medication, they'd be easier to "convince."

25 posted on 01/15/2013 7:23:54 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: ilovesarah2012

The rifle wasn’t taken from the trunk. A shotgun was taken from the trunk. The rifle was in the school.


26 posted on 01/15/2013 7:27:12 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: concerned about politics

Kinda like “the dog didn’t bark” eh?


27 posted on 01/15/2013 7:28:53 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: Nachum
"Nudge":

1. to push slightly or gently, to get someone's attention, prod someone into action, etc.
2. to give a nudge.
3. a slight or gentle push or jog.

28 posted on 01/15/2013 7:29:07 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Nachum
Ofcourse, they'll Alinsky anyone who even seeks the truth.

They'll get a cute little name like a birther or truther to.

29 posted on 01/15/2013 7:30:27 PM PST by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

It could be something as simple as he was most familiar and comfortable with that particular weapon. I don’t believe the 0bama regime caused the Newtown shooting, but they have surely capitalized on it. They are absolutely responsible for the murders of Brian Terry, Jaime Zapata, and God knows how many Mexicans.


30 posted on 01/15/2013 7:30:37 PM PST by Trod Upon (Civilian disarmament is the precursor to democide.)
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To: Boogieman

What’s your source for that? What I read said differently.


31 posted on 01/15/2013 7:31:16 PM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: Trod Upon

interviewing those smiling actors is paramount. if they aren’t the parents of those chillin’, we’ve got something here


32 posted on 01/15/2013 7:35:46 PM PST by stickywillie
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To: Nachum

Sorry, at first I thought it said “Alice Cooper”,


33 posted on 01/15/2013 7:36:54 PM PST by equaviator
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To: muawiyah

http://www.sott.net/article/254828-Just-a-rumor-Libor-scandal-grows-as-the-fathers-of-two-mass-murderers-were-to-testify


34 posted on 01/15/2013 7:39:10 PM PST by Vote 4 Nixon (EAT...FISH...SLEEP...REDUX)
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To: SvenMagnussen

“C’Mon Anderson, How did United Way of Western Connecticut know about the Sandy Hook shootings two days before they occurred?”

This is the most ridiculous one of the conspiracy theories, I think. You don’t even have a dated screenshot or anything to attest that the page actually existed before the shootings, just a google search by date relevance done after the fact, which doesn’t even attest to the page being created or indexed on that date. The conspiracy theorists are basically citing this as evidence, when it doesn’t even constitute the kind of evidence they think it does.

Now, even if it did mean what they are proposing, the idea is preposterous. Some murderous, well-planned, highly secret conspiracy planned this tragedy, and then decided to tell the United Way about it, in advance, so they could set up their fundraising page? So, in this proposed conspiracy, the advance “need to know” circle was drawn wide enough to include the 3rd party web designers to a local affiliate of a 3rd party charity group? Inconceivable!


35 posted on 01/15/2013 7:39:50 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: equaviator

“Sorry, at first I thought it said “Alice Cooper””

welcome to my nightmare

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQE0pfBAYQ8


36 posted on 01/15/2013 7:39:50 PM PST by Nachum (Back on the Google blacklist- www.nachumlist.com)
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To: ilovesarah2012

A single media report getting the type of firearm wrong is not evidence for conspiracy, it is just media standard operating procedure. Do we really need to post the “Journalist’s Firearms Identification Chart” again just to make that point?

You can watch the video of the weapon they found in the trunk yourself, and it is not a rifle. More knowledgable FReepers than myself have identified it as most likely a Saiga semiautomatic shotgun, but feel free to make your own identification and tell us what type of rifle you think it is.

Here’s the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLrxSgkqJQc


37 posted on 01/15/2013 7:46:00 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: cripplecreek

I’m not usually a conspiratory believer but there are too many oddities in this whole event.

As of November 30, 2012, Sandy Hook Elementary School had 456 children enrolled in kindergarten through fourth grade. According to school authorities, the school’s security protocol had recently been upgraded, requiring visitors to be individually admitted after visual and identification review by video monitor.

No pictures have been shown and a ‘mask’ was mentioned early on. Why have we seen only one single picture of children - the one of teachers leading them with their eyes closed, supposedly, since they were holding on to each other’s shoulders. Even overhead photos never showed any children near the school or the firehouse.

They said he had four guns, including a shotgun that was left in the back of the vehicle. The rifle used was a Bushmaster .223-caliber, and yet we’ve seen videos of them opening the trunk and finding that rifle in the dark of night.

But, the coroner ‘on video’ says all the children were shot with the rifle!

Who was the man they were shown, on video, chasing in the woods? I don’t believe it was the Father, who went there to make gingerbread men with his son...


38 posted on 01/15/2013 7:49:19 PM PST by potlatch (~)
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To: Trod Upon
The Obama regime is responsible for Fast and Furious ~ and the murder of hundreds of Mexicans. The guys who came up with that bit of nonsense would certainly not be deterred by the prospect of shooting up a gradeschool and killing a pile of children.

The big problem for the Obama regime and it's principal actors is when it comes to breaking the law to kill innocent people they do not have a good record.

39 posted on 01/15/2013 7:51:32 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Nachum
Here's what was said that I didn't get.

(1.) They didn't know how many kids were in there that might have been mortally wounded but no first responders or medical personal were allowed in to help wounded? Ambulances couldn't even get up to the building. Who was in there that made the determination that the kids were all dead?

(2.) Video of the aftermath from overhead almost from the moment it happened.... 600 kids attended the school. Where are the pictures of lines of kids evacuating?...

(3.) The man who said a bus dropped off a group of kids in front of his house. They came into his house and chatted for how long? A bus driver would just drop a bunch of kids off at a strange house? The guy was acting really dramatic....The film made note that he was a member of the Screen Actors Guild! Anyone have answers for some of this stuff?

40 posted on 01/15/2013 7:52:27 PM PST by wesagain (The God (Elohim) of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is the One True GOD.)
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To: potlatch

conspiratory = conspiracy
[they’re plotting against my posts....snicker]


41 posted on 01/15/2013 7:52:56 PM PST by potlatch (~)
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To: Nachum

There is a conspiracy but it involves jumping on an incident when it happens. If only one out of 100 million people is crazy enough to go on a school shooting rampage that leads to 3 incidents a year on average. The gun grabbers only have to wait for the crazies to emerge.


42 posted on 01/15/2013 7:57:29 PM PST by Nateman (If liberals are not screaming you are doing it wrong!)
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To: potlatch
I’m not usually a conspiratory believer but there are too many oddities in this whole event.

Yep. Hillary signed the UN Small Arms Treaty that wants the name of every gun owner in America, and suddenly medicated boys are out shooting people. Two more today at two colleges.
People know something smells fishy. They're just not sure what it is.

People can sense things. The democrats need gun deaths to get their UN treaty completed, and out of the blue, they're getting all they need - right on schedule. What are the odds this would be happening "naturally"?

43 posted on 01/15/2013 7:58:38 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: concerned about politics

“I think people are noticing the silence. I can’t help but think those computers will show a “nudge” related to every one of them. Because they were all on medication, they’d be easier to “convince.” “

Absolutely noticing the silence. Bear in mind the following things:

1. Somebody destroyed Lanza’s hard drive. It is assumed by the public that it was Lanza himself. It is a fact nobody was there to witness that.
1a. Who is being protected by the destruction of the hard drives? Evidently there was something there that was hidden.

2. Someone shot Lanza’s mother while she was in the bed. Again, it is assumed it was Lanza- supposedly only he and his mother were there.

3. The timing is quite convenient for the administration. The Giffords shooting (and her becoming a stuffed toy to be trotted out as a poster child for gun control), the Aurora shooting, and now Newtown, complete with dead children. Not a Reichstag fire individually, but certainly Reichstag matches. All taking place right on the eve of national bankruptcy. And now our future Fuhrer wants his Enabling Act.

4. It is a known fact that there are parts of the government that lie, and assassinate people. It is in fact their job. We generally don’t mind when they are doing it overseas, but they are definitely not supposed to do that on our own soil.

5. The news media that reports all this stuff is pretty much in the back pocket of the administration- even Fox News, to a lesser extent than MSNBC. You are only going to see what the propaganda machine wants you to see.

Suspicious much? Yes...Yes, I am. Suspicious that a massive fraud is being committed in order to neuter a major freedom. Suspicious that someone is being set up to become a dictator- absolutely. A long study of history shows that all this isn’t new and has been done before.


44 posted on 01/15/2013 7:59:25 PM PST by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: jdsteel

Life is getting that way, now.


45 posted on 01/15/2013 8:00:37 PM PST by rabidralph (http://www.cafepress.com/westernwis)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Check my last post. My main source is all the “gun nut” FReepers who watched the video and identified the weapon in previous threads. I’m not knowledgeable enough to say it’s a Saiga for sure, but I can certainly tell that it isn’t a rifle, since the video shows a shotgun shell being ejected at 0:06 and rifles do not fire shotgun shells.


46 posted on 01/15/2013 8:01:09 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Nachum

The interviews were very strange. Especially the mothers...seemed like a version of Stepford wives, no one was too upset or angry (expect when they wanted assault weapon gun control). Then told nice little stories of their loved one, that died 2 days earlier (no tears)


47 posted on 01/15/2013 8:12:29 PM PST by opentalk
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To: cripplecreek

That report of the “4 handguns only” came from federal officials not the police who entered the school. The feds were stating things that the locals had to continually correct and stomp on.


48 posted on 01/15/2013 8:22:55 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Nachum

In all pity, people often behave in absurd and inappropriate ways when confronted with horrible loss.


49 posted on 01/15/2013 8:24:45 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: concerned about politics

Hillary’s whole political life has involved conspiracies, I followed her for years and she’s the master of cover-ups.

Communists/socialists, have the patience to work for years to reach their goals. Their playbook is Rules for Radicals.

All the years I was busy raising my children I was unaware of what was going on. Half of our population is still unaware - or just doesn’t care. God help us!


50 posted on 01/15/2013 8:29:34 PM PST by potlatch (~)
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