Skip to comments.Did New York State Just Accidentally Outlaw ALL Firearms?
Posted on 01/15/2013 8:17:18 PM PST by kiryandil
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No. The clause refers to firearms already in legal possession which are now subject to registration requirements. Those would be semi autos with two qualifiers and ten round mags or shotguns with carry handles that control the pump action. Failure to register becomes criminal possession. A trooper told me today the magazine restriction includes handguns. He said the US pistol team would not be allowed to compete in NY. He was disgusted by this law and said it would do nothing to make the state safer. He quickly agreed when I suggested that a 20 year old guy driving a Sonata with an upper speed capability in excess of 125mph is a far greater danger than a law abiding citizen with a Ruger mini 14 in his house.
What are normal rifles and shotguns called instead? Long arms? Or simply rifles and shotguns?
Every time I drive through New York State, I make it a point to fill up my gas tank just before entering. And Glad I do, otherwise could not stand I’d be financially contributing this kind of constitutionally insulting legislation.
Can’t stand to have my own capital used against me.
The public schools(D) no longer teach history. They teach social(ism) studies.
Accidentally - nope!
And not including antique firearms.
No they did not because that would be a violation of the Constitution.
Hate to break it you man. The first picture is where all the people are. Pastoral scenery sure is pretty, but it doesn’t vote. The former can’t help but lead the latter because they outnumber them so vastly.
“The folks at kimber (Yonkers, NY) are in deep sh!t.”
So are the folks at Henry (Brooklyn, NY)
Lost in the penumbra...
If any clause, sentence, paragraph, section or part of this act shall be adjudged by any court of competent jurisdiction to be invalid and after exhaustion of all further judicial review, the judgment shall not affect, impair or invalidate the remainder thereof, but shall be confined in its operation to the clause, sentence, paragraph, section or part of this act directly involved in the controversy in which the judgment shall have been rendered.
the democrats have been ‘testing hte water’ for a number of years now by blatantly putting forth ‘bold’ proposals that they know the right will be upset about- and when the left saw that the right had NO BACKBONE, they went in al ittle deeper into hte water and hten a little deeper, until we now see them no longer testign hte water, but simply blatantly foisting unconstitutional crap on us knowing full well that NOONE will lift a figner to stop them
NY is all set to trample the cosntitutional right of all it’s citzens, not just hte citzens in large cities, but all aqcross the state now- knowign full well that noone iwll stand up to htem just as noone stood up to them when they outlawed guns in the larger cities- they tested hte water and founf out htat NOONE will EVER hold htem accoutnable for their unconstitutional actions- and when odarhma rammed through his hell-th care- cuomo knew the left no longer had any reason to fear the supreme court or the american people-
We are at a crossroad, and we’d all better practice wavign goodbye to hte freedoms we uised to know- because hte left has been let off it’s leash by the American people and they are free to do whatever the hell they want now-
"Antique firearm" means: Any unloaded muzzle loading pistol or revolver with a matchlock, flintlock, percussion cap, or similar type of ignition system, or a pistol or revolver which uses fixed cartridges which are no longer available in the ordinary channels of commercial trade.
Oh, was it an accident? Remember, Boy Cuomo talked about confiscation.
The trouble is when you try to explain the similarities between the 2 you get called a “Nut Job” or a “Racist Nutjob”.
So for Hitler it was Jewish people he hated and had killed
so who will it be this time old people, babies, rich people,
white people, Christians?
[[makes it illegal to own a firearm AND not register it per the law]]
however, apparently it’s NOT illegal for cuomo or legislators to violate the citizen’s constitutional rights? He hjould be immediately thrown out of office for FAILURE to protect the peopel he was elected to protect- for violatign hteir constitutional rights- but NY’ers apaprently do NOT cafre that their rights have been violated-
Hurts me to say it. I hate my state.
“The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed the subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing. Indeed, I would go so far as to say that the supply of arms to the underdogs is a sine qua non for the overthrow of any sovereignty.”
They’d better have Secretary of the Interior Not Sure review this language. This looks like cabinet level idiocy.
The "San Francisco" gun show is held at the Cow Palace which is actually located in Daly City, part of San Mateo County, not San Francisco County. Otherwise, I am sure that it would have been shut down by now.
The trip is about 70 miles each way for me.
[[My condolences, New York. Now, well see a massive exodus of people, I bet.]]
Save your money, you’ll lose- I used to think NY’ers cared, and that they couldn’t possibly be stupid enough to keep electing officials who violagte hteir rights- and that they would most definately stand up for their CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS- but WOW was I wrong-
NY’ers coudl put an immediate stop to this unconstitutional crap IF they so chose to by bandign together and REFUSING to pay any more state taxes to a governor who refuses to do his sworn duty- but I’m not holdign my breath thinking that NY’ers have spine enough to do so-
America- your turn is coming- You may think you’re safe because you live in a state that is very lax on gun laws right now, but the brash boldness and blatant disregard for hte constitution displayed in NY’’s bill will be coming to your towns soon- now that NY has gotten away with violating it’s citizen’s constitutional rights, it’s game over for hte rest of the coutnry too- oh there might be a few hold outs, but when the federal govwenrment begins withholdign federal dollars- you governors WILL cave in-
Since Chuck Schumer owns a semi-automatic pistol with a detachable magazine is he now a felon?
And plenty of Republicans voted for the new NY gun law, which is truly amazing.
Logic seems to be : (A+B)&C. All guns must be registered.
Cuomo might need to watch his back. Just sayin’...
Oh Ok my mistake..When they showed the gun show on Fox News they said “San Francisco” on top of the screen so I assumed it was located in San Francisco..knew something seemed fishy, San Francisco loving the 2nd Amendment, knew it didnt sound right
Sounds like Presidential Science Adviser John Holdren, who knows solar and wind are fairy tales, but has spent most of his forty years attacking nuclear power and arguing that the real solution is to eliminate four fifths of the population. It got Holdren a cushy office paid for by Theresa Kerry's dead conservative first husband, an enormous salary at the Kennedy Center, and a lovely home on Cape Cod. Holdren has rewarded the bag carriers with Solyndra funding, and twenty or thirty other boondoggles, most of which will quietly slip away under Chapter 11 while the investors will walk away, as Kaiser of Solyndra did, with hundreds of millions in clear profit. That was always the game, and anyone familiar with the technology knew it.
We are seeing the second coming of Hitler..never imagined that would happen..Obama is following Hitler’s strategy to the letter..first they take the guns..next the Jews will end up in the ovens..its how Hitler started and how he finished
How is the average New York cop going to interpret this law?
Will they all be sat down and explained all the intricacies of the law?
[[And plenty of Republicans voted for the new NY gun law, which is truly amazing.]]
Well that’s what I’m talking about- America is lost to socilaism- even our own party has sold it’s soul- The rights our forefathers fought and gave hteir lives for are no longer valid or a concern to Americans- As long as they git their gubmint money, they will give up all manner of morals and decency and rights- We’ve just all been witrness to the itnernal downfall of this once great nation-
I’ll never, as long as I libve, forget the itnerview with a black woman by a fox reporter asking her why she voted for oberma- she said somethign along the lines of “Because He’s goign to give us free money- I’m gonna git me osme of that mbsama money” and the reporter asked her where trhat money was goign to come from she responded ‘It’s just free”
Never as long as i live will I forget that interview- I knew right then that America had changed for hte worse- I knew right then that we went from a nation of doers to a nation of takers and that it was only a matter of time before we’d be right where we are today watchign governor cuomo AND the republicans voting on a bill that woudl strip it’s citizens of their constitutional rights-
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Have one and not register it...that would be the crime..as I read it.
People are not dumb enough to register their guns with the new state registry.
The long-gun registry worked so well in Canada it was finally abolished.
If no one complies, that’s a lot of people to arrest and lock up. For the cops, its not worth the hassle.
Especially when failure to register is a misdemeanor offense. And who is going to compel New York to voluntarily register? Andrew Cuomo? In his dreams!
It makes him look good but mark my words: it won’t get a single gun off the streets in New York in the future.
[[Obama is following Hitlers strategy to the letter]]
Obsamar- what abotu cuomo? Cuomo is twice as brazen as him and cuomo IS goign top run and most likely win in 2016 because he will make one promise after another making peopel think they will get all kinds of ‘free stuff’ fro m the gubmint- and even IF cuomo loses- he’ll lose to who? Yup- that’s right- Sellout Christie- but if cuomo does win- it’s goign to be VERY VERY bad for this nation- He’s already provign that he’s a brazen criminal who will ILLEGALLY violate our constitutional rights every chance he can- with htis bill in NY- he let america know he doesn’t give a #$#@@#$ what they think he’s goign to steam roll right over them- and he knows full well this kind of brazen tactics unbeleivably attracts voters-
Let’s assume this was a s mistake for a moment. This is why do don’t write or pass laws on emotion.
Ammunition magazines will be restricted to seven bullets, from the current 10, and current owners of higher-capacity magazines will have a year to sell them out of state. An owner caught at home with eight or more bullets in a magazine will face a misdemeanor charge.
Probably best they don’t move. I don’t want a bunch of liberal whiny babies migrating to other states and sucking them dry there.
[[Especially when failure to register is a misdemeanor offense.]]
Thaty’s the point- this new law gives the police antoehr source of income to STEAL from us- everytiem they find an unregistered gun- Kaching- money in the bank for them
Not according to that snippet of statute ... in NY possession of an unregistered firearm (which goes hand-in-hand with failure to register) is now a Class E felony.
They have been killing unborn chillrun by the millions for 40 some odd years now.
Folks, we be the frog in the pot right now and we just found out the water is hotternhell.
Its already bad for this nation..the moment Obama was re-elected a part of this country died..Cuomo wants to be President..that is why he is doing this..its all about 2016 for him..depends what kind of country we have in 2016 if he stands a chance..but we might not have a country by the time 2016 comes around and if we do, we will probably be stuck with fat lard ass Chris Christie because the GOP will never learn it’s lesson
Obama, Cuomo (whom this article is actually about). I’m telling you, these demonic-rats are actually thugs and Communists or Marxists, whatever you want to call them. Wealthy elites. Union thugs are the same as Hitler’s SS. Voters with their hands out are the idiot dupes and they’ll turn on us just like the people turned on the Jews, which is why they must first disarm us!
I don’t think it will all be one way. I think criminals may like the new law.
You're correct. “. . .and knowingly fails to register such firearm. . .” I presume this encompasses any and all private firearms that are capable of firing.
My job put me in Massachusetts for two years in the 1980’s. The first time I drove into the state I passed a large official sign warning me that it was a felony to enter Mass with unregistered firearms.
Later I tried to buy a carton of bullets for a pistol I owned but never declared. The guy at the gun shop said he couldn't sell me ammo unless I produced a pistol permit. Later on I was building an office in a warehouse I leased. I went to rent a nail gun. The rental shop clerk said I needed a pistol permit to rent a nail gun.
I heard the gun laws in Mass loosened up a bit in the ‘90’s. It may have been that everybody was driving to Vermont and buying about anything they wanted. And Mass was losing the sales.
Not accidently, no.
That's an easy fix. A couple double taps on the magazine inspector's directon and you are down to 8.