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Therapists worry NY gun law may hinder therapy
9wsyr.com ^ | December 15, 2013

Posted on 01/15/2013 9:26:50 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe

Edited on 01/16/2013 2:42:25 AM PST by Jim Robinson. [history]

Syracuse (WSYR-TV) -- The goal of a new statewide database in New York is to keep guns out of the hands of unstable people.

Mental health professionals are supposed to report patients who are considered a threat to themselves or others. Family therapist Theressa McMorris worries good intentions may be too broad since several of her clients could be considered temporarily suicidal.


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TOPICS: US: New York
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; secondamendment

1 posted on 01/15/2013 9:26:58 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Smells like the Soviet Union more and more every day, doesn’t it?


2 posted on 01/15/2013 9:35:53 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
 
 
That pesky unintended consequences thing strikes again.
 
 

3 posted on 01/15/2013 9:37:19 PM PST by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Of course they will fail.

People who need a gun can easily obtain one, law or no law.

People won’t register because they know the next inevitable step is confiscation.

And forcing mental care professionals to violate the privacy of their patients to deter a possible future crime stifles the very kind of treatment liberals say they want for troubled people.

This is using the legislative equivalent of artillery to address a non-existent problem.


4 posted on 01/15/2013 9:41:48 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
For a couple thousand years the only psychological help available was the priest; and the priest was forbidden from disclosing the secret of confession. Modern day doctors are required by law to spy upon their patients and report everything that looks interesting. No sane crazy man would ever see a doctor. A man has a depression because of a death in the family, goes to see a doctor for a quick prescription, and the next thing he knows is that he is listed as a lunatic in all government records. This would make it harder, if not impossible, to get various everyday licenses that people need to live their life.

On the other hand, Obamacare makes sure that the only place you can see a doctor is on the screen in a movie theater. So no harm done.

5 posted on 01/15/2013 9:45:56 PM PST by Greysard
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To: Tailgunner Joe
It really depends on the semantics.

Therapist, The Rapist... Semantics.

6 posted on 01/15/2013 9:46:05 PM PST by real saxophonist
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To: Tailgunner Joe

No $hit $herlock.

Jeez Louise. Does any one think about consequences anymore ?


7 posted on 01/15/2013 9:46:31 PM PST by onona (KCCO, and mind the gap)
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To: onona

Liberals in a rush to fix problems stemming from a crisis inevitably end up creating new problems.

They ignore the first rule of the Hippocratic Oath: “When in doubt, do no harm.”

This new gun control law won’t stop future Adam Lanzas, that is for sure.


8 posted on 01/15/2013 9:52:57 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: real saxophonist
What's all this fuss about the rapists? Who cares what they think?


9 posted on 01/15/2013 9:55:45 PM PST by AndrewB (FUBO)
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To: real saxophonist
Therapist, The Rapist... Semantics.

Clever... and yet completely ignorant.

10 posted on 01/15/2013 10:05:13 PM PST by newheart (The greatest trick the left ever pulled was convincing the world it was not a religion.)
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To: newheart

How so?


11 posted on 01/15/2013 10:08:55 PM PST by real saxophonist
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Not to worry. One of NY’s famously liberal jurists will throw out all the mental health provisions in due course. Thus leaving only the gun provisions that they wanted in the first place.


12 posted on 01/15/2013 11:18:48 PM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: lapsus calami

Well, I’m sure not going to go to a shrink now if that is what they are asking.

But then I never would have anyhow.


13 posted on 01/15/2013 11:42:48 PM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: onona

To #7: You ask whether “any one think(s) about consequences anymore?”

Not if you are a liberal, Democrat, Leftist, marxist or environmental wacko.

They lack the mental capacity to think not only rationally and logically, but also dimensionally (i.e. consequences).

That is what separated the more rational, logical, and far-thinking conservatives from the leftist mental deficients.

Unfortunately the insane are not only running the asylum, they are continually being reelected to do so.

I suspect that there are a lot more insane people out there in not only urban America, but now in suburbia and even conservative areas, than we ever knew.

Like a plague, they spread their mental diseases through miseducation, media disinformation and misinformation, Hollywood, some talk shows, and the body politique.

We’re gonna need a bigger can of “mental disease control” than we have now. Where it is going to come from, I just don’t know.


14 posted on 01/16/2013 12:02:41 AM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: real saxophonist

Such a nice little play on words may indeed be clever, but it is an insult to the thousands of mental health professionals, perpetuates an absurd and inaccurate stereotype and may cause some people to avoid seeking legitimate professional help.


15 posted on 01/16/2013 6:47:28 AM PST by newheart (The greatest trick the left ever pulled was convincing the world it was not a religion.)
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To: newheart
Thanks for the response. I've dealt with such people since age 15, and have my share of PSYs on my transcript. So apologies if you were offended. Please take back the word 'ignorant' and we'll be cool.

I also find interesting the number of people I've encountered in the mental health field who have musical backgrounds.

16 posted on 01/16/2013 9:13:33 AM PST by real saxophonist
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To: newheart
Regardless of the efficacy of this, such a thing is a lot more plausible reason for people to avoid seeking legitimate professional help, than a smartass comment by me.
17 posted on 01/16/2013 11:20:42 AM PST by real saxophonist
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To: newheart

Yer crazy.


20 posted on 01/16/2013 11:26:54 AM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: newheart; real saxophonist
Such a nice little play on words may indeed be clever, but it is an insult to the thousands of mental health professionals, perpetuates an absurd and inaccurate stereotype and may cause some people to avoid seeking legitimate professional help.

I am hearing voices again. Those voices tell me that I must kill. I must kill many, and they need to be babies. Within my mind lies horrors beyond the understanding of man. Within its depths one can find a world of spies, C.I.A. dinosaurs, agents and alien thought control devices. If there is a hell then surely it lies within the inner depths of the psychotic, and the satellites who control them. Murder murder murder. This is the only way out.

I was actually thinking about getting treatment, but the second I saw 'real saxophonist' and what he said, I knew I could not get help.

How do you make explosives?

21 posted on 01/16/2013 11:34:20 AM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: real saxophonist

Not you, the comment. Even an intelligent person (which you obviously are) can occasionally make an “ignorant” comment. I suspect I say more ignorant things in a course of a day than I do intelligent things. And yeah, it is usually when I am being a smart ass.

Given the number of musicians in psychology, are you thinking of changing careers?

Peace.


22 posted on 01/16/2013 1:46:32 PM PST by newheart (The greatest trick the left ever pulled was convincing the world it was not a religion.)
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To: Lazamataz
Yer crazy.

And quite proud of it.

23 posted on 01/16/2013 1:52:24 PM PST by newheart (The greatest trick the left ever pulled was convincing the world it was not a religion.)
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To: Lazamataz; real saxophonist
I am hearing voices again.

We know, Laz. At least you are finally admitting it. That's a good sign that maybe you can be helped. ;-)

24 posted on 01/16/2013 1:53:09 PM PST by newheart (The greatest trick the left ever pulled was convincing the world it was not a religion.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe; All

since FEWER people will seek medical attention, the state will save money. since the state will save money this is a win/win for NYS.

(can we just isolate Manhattan?)


25 posted on 01/16/2013 2:07:30 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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