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Revealed: Obama's likely executive orders on guns
wnd ^ | Jan 15, 2013 | Aaron Klein

Posted on 01/16/2013 12:19:34 AM PST by Red Steel

Group with enormous influence on White House issues specific plans

A progressive group with enormous influence on White House policy has issued specific recommendations to the Obama administration on how to push sweeping gun control, including suggestions for executive orders.

The Center for American Progress released an 11-page proposal, reviewed by WND, calling for a full ban on the sale of assault weapons and magazines with a capacity for more than 10 bullets. CAP suggests legislation to require licensing and transfer restrictions on new and existing assault rifles.

The CAP paper, delivered to the White House last week, recommends that Obama issue executive orders requiring all states to collect more data on prospective gun owners for inclusion in a nationwide database.

Such a presidential edict would withhold funding to any state that does not provide the federal government with the names of all the individuals who are prohibited from owning firearms, including those barred from purchasing guns due to mental illness.

The executive action specifically would penalize states that fail to provide records to the National Instant Criminal Background System, or NICS, which is a point-of-sale system for determining eligibility to purchase a firearm.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News
KEYWORDS: banglist; confiscation; dictator; guncontrol; obama; secondamendment; tyranny; tyrant

1 posted on 01/16/2013 12:19:45 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

Nationalized health care, nationwide firearms database.. Next will be the obliteration of all state borders.


2 posted on 01/16/2013 12:30:33 AM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: Red Steel

The CAP paper, delivered to the White House last week, recommends that Obama issue executive orders requiring all states to collect more data on prospective gun owners for inclusion in a nationwide database.

Such a presidential edict would withhold funding to any state that does not provide the federal government with the names of all the individuals who are prohibited from owning firearms, including those barred from purchasing guns due to mental illness.

The executive action specifically would penalize states that fail to provide records to the National Instant Criminal Background System, or NICS, which is a point-of-sale system for determining eligibility to purchase a firearm.
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THIS is a Declaration of War, flat out.


3 posted on 01/16/2013 12:34:29 AM PST by MestaMachine (Sometimes the smartest man in the room is standing in the midst of imbeciles.)
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To: Red Steel
Having a database for law abiding citizens seems to be an overreach by this government to our privacy rights; like the drones in Florida.

The government purchasing and stock piling ammunition. What's up with that. What happens when a hacker intrudes the info on these law abiding citizens from this database. People could be killed/those under protection etc.

4 posted on 01/16/2013 12:38:11 AM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt. Our nation's foundation is under attack.)
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To: MestaMachine
The NICS is controversial because it receives telephone calls from mental health institutions, psychiatrists and family members who can request the placement of individuals in the NICS index.

Did you see this too, Mesta?

5 posted on 01/16/2013 12:38:36 AM PST by Bradís Gramma (Psalm 83)
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To: Christie at the beach
These damn socialists always want to punish the worker, the guy who gets up and does his/her job and doesn't break the law. Now, they are treated as a criminal because they have a gun. If you break the law, you are arrested. Go into court. If you are found guilty of a serious crime, you lose your right to own a firearm. Everything they touch causes more harm and loss of our freedom.
6 posted on 01/16/2013 12:45:38 AM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt. Our nation's foundation is under attack.)
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To: Red Steel

pending impeachment talk...

http://video.foxnews.com/v/2096824748001/


7 posted on 01/16/2013 12:47:10 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Brad's Gramma

In addition to local, state, tribal, and federal agencies voluntarily contributing information to the NICS Index, the NICS Section receives telephone calls from mental health institutions, psychiatrists, police departments, and family members requesting placement of individuals into the NICS Index. Frequently, these are emergency situations and require immediate attention. Any documentation justifying a valid entry into the NICS Index must be available to the originating agencies.
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So sayeth big brother.


8 posted on 01/16/2013 12:47:33 AM PST by MestaMachine (Sometimes the smartest man in the room is standing in the midst of imbeciles.)
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To: Brad's Gramma

FUBO!


9 posted on 01/16/2013 12:48:21 AM PST by Crim (Palin / West '12)
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To: Red Steel

This is the same Soros-funded wish-list that was over the news earlier.


10 posted on 01/16/2013 12:51:12 AM PST by Prospero
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To: Red Steel
It's about time we called a Spade, a Nazi.

I guess Dictator, Pharaoh or Tyrant would work as well, but I was reminded a few days ago that Adolph Hitler loved little Aryan Children and Puppies.

Now that Obama will be hiding behind Children at his Proclamation tomorrow, Hitler seems like the best comparison. It appears we are reaching an Inglorious Bastards moment, but we won't be slinging Baseball Bats when the Jack Booted Obama Thugs knock down our doors looking for our Evil “Defense” Rifles.

The only ones with the “Assault” Rifles will the ones robbing us of our God Given Rights to Self Defense and Protection from a Tyrannical Government.

11 posted on 01/16/2013 1:07:30 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (I only Fear a Government that doesn't Fear me.)
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To: Red Steel

If they can manage such a massive database, how about one to keep track of voter fraud? Or a database of every woman who has ever had an abortion (to track breast cancer risk, of course). [/sarc]


12 posted on 01/16/2013 1:39:50 AM PST by rfp1234 (Arguing with a liberal is like playing chess with a pigeon.)
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To: Kickass Conservative
And even at the end of the day, in their Berlin bunker:

a) Hitler poisoned and killed his beloved dog "Blondi".

b) Mrs. Goebbels poisoned each and everyone of her children, something like 8 kids in total.

Shows you how dictatorial tyrants will use dogs and kids to get their point across or for whatever propaganda purposes, and then on the other hand, will kill them on the drop of a pfenning, with the snap of a finger.

13 posted on 01/16/2013 1:48:47 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Mussolini: The Liberated hung him upside down, after kicking the living sh*t out of him.)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Nationalized health care, nationwide firearms database.. Next will be the obliteration of all state borders.

Um, actually that would be internal passports.
Can’t have people traveling from state to state at will.

Funny how all these things are things instituted
in the Soviet sphere...


14 posted on 01/16/2013 2:09:01 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Brad's Gramma; MestaMachine; Christie at the beach

“Such a presidential edict would withhold funding to any state that does not provide the federal government with the names of all the individuals who are prohibited from owning firearms,including those barred from purchasing guns due to mental illness.”

I think some states have their own database, alongside the national one.

But in either case, the database has names of those NOT ALLOWED to own guns.

Its a list against which that lanza guy wouldve been checked.

Indeed when he tried to buy something HE WAS DENIED.


15 posted on 01/16/2013 2:35:41 AM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: Crim

I really hate the blue lipped homo.


16 posted on 01/16/2013 2:37:07 AM PST by jospehm20
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To: WildHighlander57

If you think that only criminals’ names will be in the added records gathering they propose, there is this bridge in Brooklyn you might be interested in...although you probably wouldn’t want to live there after yesterday.


17 posted on 01/16/2013 2:46:19 AM PST by MestaMachine (Sometimes the smartest man in the room is standing in the midst of imbeciles.)
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To: Brad's Gramma; MestaMachine; Christie at the beach

From the article:
“The NICS is controversial because it receives telephone calls from mental health institutions, psychiatrists and family members who can request the placement of individuals in the NICS index. Those individuals can then be barred from purchasing a weapon if the NICS is satisfied with the complaint, usually requiring supporting documentation”

That is the operative phrase “needs supporting documentation”

I highly doubt an individual can call and on that ONE call alone have someone put on the list.


18 posted on 01/16/2013 2:53:32 AM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: MestaMachine

MestaMachine,
I cannot from the article figure what new thing they are trying to implement that doesn’t already exist.

Like I said in my other post, i think some states have their own database similar to NICS, where those NOT allowed are listed.

Its not a list of those who ARE allowed.

Is it those states that have a separate list which are complaining about having to send this info in to the FBI’s database?


19 posted on 01/16/2013 3:02:56 AM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: MestaMachine

In addition to local,state,tribal,and federal agencies voluntarily contributing information to the NICS Index,the NICS Section receives telephone calls from mental health institutions,psychiatrists, police departments,and family members requesting placement of individuals into the NICS Index. Frequently,these are emergency situations and require immediate attention. Any documentation justifying a valid entry into the NICS Indexmust be available to the originating agencies.”

Was this in the wnd article or someplace else; if elsewhere where did you find it?


20 posted on 01/16/2013 3:05:08 AM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: Red Steel

And the Center for American Progress is - None other than Bill Clinton. Lock, stock and barrel.


21 posted on 01/16/2013 3:10:14 AM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: WildHighlander57
NICS INDEX

Submission Process

The local, state, tribal, and federal agencies are provided with two modes to add, modify, supplement, or cancel NICS Index entries.

The first mode is an electronic connection between the NICS and the contributing agency using the NCIC-Front End. An agency may use this interface to electronically submit, modify, supplement, cancel, or display a denied person’s disqualifying information in the NICS Index. The second mode is batch data transfer on CD, diskette, or by secure e-mail. The NICS Index entries, modifications, supplements, and cancellations are to be processed by the contributing agency since the contributing agency is responsible for the accuracy and validity of the NICS Index information. It is imperative to update the NICS Index as necessary to minimize erroneous denials. The contributing agency is responsible for responding to appeals, assessments, and audits of the submitted records.

In addition to local, state, tribal, and federal agencies voluntarily contributing information to the NICS Index, the NICS Section receives telephone calls from mental health institutions, psychiatrists, police departments, and family members requesting placement of individuals into the NICS Index. Frequently, these are emergency situations and require immediate attention. Any documentation justifying a valid entry into the NICS Index must be available to the originating agencies.

Notice what word is missing from the 'executive order'? And that it intends to PUNISH states which do not comply? Do the words "STATES RIGHTS" ring a bell?

22 posted on 01/16/2013 3:26:12 AM PST by MestaMachine (Sometimes the smartest man in the room is standing in the midst of imbeciles.)
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To: Hardraade

THIS will try to accomplish what he started with Waco and Ruby Ridge.


23 posted on 01/16/2013 3:35:17 AM PST by MestaMachine (Sometimes the smartest man in the room is standing in the midst of imbeciles.)
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To: Red Steel

24 posted on 01/16/2013 3:37:58 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: MestaMachine

This nothing less than a national licensing system in which individual citizens have no right to view or amend their own records and in which the qualifying criteria may be tightened without warning at will.
The universal application of the NICS is the top agenda item for Bloomberg and Soros and their ilk because this is the death of firearms freedom for our country.


25 posted on 01/16/2013 3:41:35 AM PST by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: jospehm20
I really hate the blue lipped, jug-eared homo.

We have to be succinct.

26 posted on 01/16/2013 3:57:56 AM PST by TangoLimaSierra (To the left the truth looks like Right-Wing extremism.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Hitler poisoned and killed his beloved dog "Blondi".

What a man will do to man's best friend will do worse to people. The recent rash of flippant police dog shootings is just street target practice, something to entertain when they are not out robbing highway travelers.

27 posted on 01/16/2013 4:00:00 AM PST by Reeses
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To: Chainmail; WildHighlander57

You might ask yourself why they pop so many of our soldiers full of drugs every damn day. You might ask yourself how many children have needlessly been put on Ritalin or other drugs against their parent’s will. You might ask yourself how many kids are forced into psychological ‘counseling’ for simply being kids.
Soldiers commit violent acts in war. You might ask yourself how long it will take to consider these violent acts too risky to allow these ex soldiers to own firearms.
Then you might ask yourself if any of these executive orders are followed through, how many out of ALL of them will be allowed to own firearms.
The answer, my friend, is blowin’ in the wind.


28 posted on 01/16/2013 4:04:00 AM PST by MestaMachine (Sometimes the smartest man in the room is standing in the midst of imbeciles.)
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To: MestaMachine

And Holder was in the thick of it all. The Democrats are as genocidal as any muslim. They need to be put down.


29 posted on 01/16/2013 4:12:30 AM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: SkyPilot

How did you get today’s picture?


30 posted on 01/16/2013 4:15:05 AM PST by bmwcyle (We have gone over the cliff and we are about to hit the bottom)
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To: Red Steel

jug ears and holder had better pack lunches and bring lanterns because we will fight this in court until the day obama leaves office. SO HELP ME GOD!

LLS


31 posted on 01/16/2013 4:20:05 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: Red Steel
Did Harry head this off?

This article suggests that a Harry Reid sponsored amendment in Obamacare to "buy" the NRA's silence in opposition prohibits the Fed from creating a national database of firearm owners. True?

32 posted on 01/16/2013 4:23:27 AM PST by IamConservative (The soul of my lifes journey is Liberty!)
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To: Hardraade

TWO more school shootings this morning.


33 posted on 01/16/2013 4:40:33 AM PST by MestaMachine (Sometimes the smartest man in the room is standing in the midst of imbeciles.)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
>Nationalized health care, nationwide firearms database.. Next will be the obliteration of all state borders.<

This effectively does just that.

34 posted on 01/16/2013 4:52:40 AM PST by Jerrybob (Truth -- the new hate speech.)
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To: WildHighlander57

I think Lanza was denied because of a waiting period between purchase and pick up!


35 posted on 01/16/2013 4:58:43 AM PST by Renegade
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To: Red Steel
Barack Hussein Ceaușescu
36 posted on 01/16/2013 4:59:01 AM PST by tbpiper
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To: IamConservative

I think it prevents the doc from asking..... correct me if I’m wrong; there’s been a ton of threads and someone was talking about that very provision.


37 posted on 01/16/2013 5:17:12 AM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: Red Steel

Here’s a link to what NY just passed:

80 pages of bullshit....

http://www.nysenate.gov/files/pdfs/S2230.pdf
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Statement from Senator Jim Seward (51st Senate District) NRA A+ rated

ALBANY, 01/14/13 – State Senator James L. Seward (R/C/I-Oneonta) today commented on gun control legislation adopted by the senate:

“The rights of law abiding citizens who use firearms for sport, protection, and collection have suffered a considerable blow. While the newly minted gun control laws offer some increased penalties for criminal use of guns and take a step toward keeping weapons out of the hands of the mentally ill, they overstep in many ways.

“For the first time, New York will be registering rifles and confiscating private property. We will do background checks on the simple purchase of a box of .22 ammo for squirrel hunting or target practice. Someone who puts eight cartridges in his magazine instead of seven will be a felon. Sadly, these extreme, harsh measures won’t stop criminals from getting guns and using them for illegal purposes.

“These reactionary laws force new, onerous regulations on those who meticulously obey the law and infringe on Second Amendment rights. Further, we can’t afford to place good paying jobs at a long-standing employer in my district, Remington Arms, in jeopardy.

“Legislation focused on stopping gun crimes and preventing those at risk of harming themselves and others from obtaining firearms would have been a public safety win. However, further impeding the rights of law-abiding citizens does nothing to confront gun violence.”

http://www.nysenate.gov/press-release/statement-senator-seward

*I’ll thank you all in advance if you would take two minutes and send him a ‘THANK YOU’ email for his tireless support in his battle to preserve our gun rights here in NY.


38 posted on 01/16/2013 5:19:54 AM PST by panaxanax
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To: Red Steel

And additional gun control laws, even unconstitutional ones, will keep guns out of the hands of criminals how? Gee, maybe we should outlaw drunk driving, spousal abuse, meth, heroin, immigrating without permission. All gun control advocates are either ignorant of the facts or they are fascists. There is no middle ground. I will not disarm in the face of criminals nor tyrants.


39 posted on 01/16/2013 5:23:22 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
Next will be the obliteration of all state borders.

The 17yh Amendment pretty much did that already. It has just taken effect slowly but inevitably.

40 posted on 01/16/2013 5:30:34 AM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE www.fee.org/library/books/economics-in-one-lesson)
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To: MestaMachine

And you have to ask yourself why states are now pushing to legalize dope smoking...
Keep the populace stoned all the time....they won’t care about the shackles.


41 posted on 01/16/2013 6:49:19 AM PST by matginzac
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To: matginzac

Don’t worry. Be happy. ‘Cept there’s no more Twinkies...which is harvey milk’s revenge.


42 posted on 01/16/2013 8:57:14 AM PST by MestaMachine (Sometimes the smartest man in the room is standing in the midst of imbeciles.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Yep, when their usefulness ends, so do their lives.


43 posted on 01/16/2013 9:18:50 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (I only Fear a Government that doesn't Fear me.)
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