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When I Was A Kid: Reflections Of A 50-Year-Old American
The Family Security Foundation ^ | 01-16-2013 | EDWARD L. DALEY

Posted on 01/16/2013 3:10:17 AM PST by Cocoa2012

The United States of America was the greatest nation in the history of the world, bar none, and just about every American school kid knew why

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KEYWORDS: 1960s; 1970s; communism; culturewars; family; nostalgia; school
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1 posted on 01/16/2013 3:10:27 AM PST by Cocoa2012
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To: Cocoa2012

bfl


2 posted on 01/16/2013 3:13:51 AM PST by Principled
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To: Cocoa2012
That dude is lying about his age.

Fifty years ago was 1963. By the time the dude was becoming politically aware, the transition from then to now was well under way ...

3 posted on 01/16/2013 3:18:20 AM PST by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody

My thoughts as well. (I’m 67)


4 posted on 01/16/2013 3:27:03 AM PST by Graybeard58
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To: cynwoody

That dude is lying about his age.

I agree! I am 43 and the tv shows were not The Donna Reed Show....Repeats occasionally (not during prime time for sure). This guy must be smoking so heavy duty stuff.


5 posted on 01/16/2013 3:28:12 AM PST by napscoordinator (GOP Candidate 2020 - "Bloomberg 2020 - We vote for whatever crap the GOP puts in front of us.")
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To: napscoordinator

I remember watching plenty of Father Knows Best and Leave it to Beaver reruns in the 70’s


6 posted on 01/16/2013 3:32:07 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: jsanders2001

I do too and liked both shows, but this guy seems to imply that those were the “main” shows watched. Obviously that was not the case as “Three’s Company” and “One Day at a Time” were the popular shows (at least late 70’s.)


7 posted on 01/16/2013 3:35:04 AM PST by napscoordinator (GOP Candidate 2020 - "Bloomberg 2020 - We vote for whatever crap the GOP puts in front of us.")
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To: Graybeard58

dittos


8 posted on 01/16/2013 3:39:38 AM PST by ballplayer
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To: napscoordinator
I am 43 and the tv shows were not The Donna Reed Show

Those seven years make a BIG difference. I am VERY close to this fellow's age, and although you are right that Donna Reed was not on in prime time, the Beverly Hillbillies, Petticoat Junction, Green Acres, Dragnet 67, Bonanza, The Lucy Show/Here's Lucy, Jackie Gleason Show, Andy Griffith, Flipper, Gentle Ben, Leave it to Beaver etc. sure were. Yes, the Mod Squad, Laugh-In, etc. were starting to make their way in, but All in the Family and Love, American Style were still a bit away.

And of course, most small fries didn't get to watch that much prime time television. We were in bed by 8 or 9 at the latest, and prime time goes to 10 or 11. So, those reruns were played DAILY, instead of weekly during the day. Now, young boys aren't too interested in Donna Reed, but I sure saw a lot of Andy Griffith, Dick Van Dyke, Make Room for Daddy during the day. Sisters watched Patty Duke. Add to that uncut Bugs Bunny/Looney Tunes and a bunch of content-free, poor animation Hanna-Barbara, plus local children's shows with a local host (Mr. Goober, Bob McAllister, Hap Richards) of varying quality and "A Day with Doodles", and you have an entirely different world.

It wasn't Donna Reed (which was pretty lame, but grownups found Miss Reed easy on the eyes), but it wasn't South Park or MTV either.
9 posted on 01/16/2013 3:41:25 AM PST by Dr. Sivana ("C'est la vie" say the old folks, it goes to show you never can tell. -- Chuck Berry)
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To: napscoordinator

Seems his age is probably off by about 10 - 15 years because The Donna Reed Show aired from 1958 - 1966 which would mean he was probably born in the late 40’s or early early 50’s at the very least if it were one of the main TV show of his day. He may be getting senile in his old age too...lol


10 posted on 01/16/2013 3:42:33 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: napscoordinator
but this guy seems to imply that those were the “main” shows watched.

His folks probably controlled the dial. In my household, we did NOT watch the Smothers Brothers or Laugh-In. Julia and Get Smart were about as edgy as it got. And a seven year old boy watches Get Smart and Adam West's Batman differently than a grown up.
11 posted on 01/16/2013 3:46:37 AM PST by Dr. Sivana ("C'est la vie" say the old folks, it goes to show you never can tell. -- Chuck Berry)
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To: Cocoa2012
Free Republic has really gone down hill. No one is even trying to talk about the content of the piece. Everyone is just accusing the author of lying about his age. Is that really important?

For my part, I think the culture has descended dramatically in my lifetime (born 1960) and I think a good part of that is because negro culture has been adopted by whites as a superior culture -- which it isn't.

12 posted on 01/16/2013 4:20:35 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: Dr. Sivana
By the late seventies, the father character in shows was less and less a family leader and more and more a disposable clod. Today, fathers are nothing more than walking ATVs with no real power or leadership role in the family (both in real life and on TV). That role has been replaced with Mom as sovereign parent and BFF to the kiddos. Have you SEEN the "children's" programming today? "Almost Naked Animals" is one that springs to mind. Just why do they have to say "almost naked?" Because today's youth are sexually precocious at the age of 4 or 5. Children of that age are now being taught about homosexuality and the like.

The dialogue and "plot" of 90% of these "programs" consists mostly of bodily function noises. Sprinkle in some Adderall, 24/7 fast/junk food, zero exercise and discipline and you have mindless, feral, brass, exhibitionist, narcissistic, zombie children with no grasp of the English language--requiring remedial grade school well into their twenties.

13 posted on 01/16/2013 4:33:04 AM PST by AbolishCSEU (Percentage of Income in CS is inversely proportionate to Mother's parenting of children)
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To: AbolishCSEU

ATV=ATM


14 posted on 01/16/2013 4:33:47 AM PST by AbolishCSEU (Percentage of Income in CS is inversely proportionate to Mother's parenting of children)
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To: Cocoa2012

To quote another board where nostalgia blurred out the fifties:

“and the 50’s really WAS Ozzie and Harriet, and The Beav, and the Beach Boys. Nothing bad happened. No one died in 3rd floor walk-ups of hypothermia, nobody died in orphanages or any of that sort of thing.

Please.

Kids as old as 12 ran households because mom was out working. Mom got her monthly bricks of Government cheese and cans of government Pulled Pork, and flour and beans and rice.
Those 12 year olds mended and darned clothes for their siblings. Kids 3-4-5 didn’t get to 4-5-6 because they weren’t well or even CLOSE to properly fed, or properly or well clothed.”

His wife lived through that, and doesn’t want to see it again. The fifties weren’t nice.


15 posted on 01/16/2013 4:42:06 AM PST by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: cynwoody

Fifty years ago a dude was a “city slicker” wearing a cowboy hat.Today it seems to be used to sound hip or flippant.


16 posted on 01/16/2013 4:42:20 AM PST by billhilly
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To: cynwoody

Fifty years ago a dude was a “city slicker” wearing a cowboy hat.Today it seems to be used to sound hip or flippant.


17 posted on 01/16/2013 4:42:40 AM PST by billhilly
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To: napscoordinator

Not really.

I’m 34, and all of the shows from the 50s and early 60s were easily seen even in the mid 80s to early 90s. Everything from My Three Sons, Patty Duke, and the Honeymooners to Lost in Space and Star Trek.

Those were only shows that were 25-35 years old, like watching Threes Company and The Jeffersons today.


18 posted on 01/16/2013 4:43:05 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: AbolishCSEU

Shows like “The Middle” are portraying both parents as retards.

Dont get started talking about the stuff on the premium networks. Likely one or both parents are engaged in criminal activities.


19 posted on 01/16/2013 4:46:06 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: ClearCase_guy
For my part, I think the culture has descended dramatically in my lifetime (born 1960)

I was born in '62, and I don't remember a completely clean pop culture. I was 8 in 1970, when I started to become aware of the world beyond my town, and a lot of what I saw in pop culture was strange and scary. I remember the "ink blot" rock groups, constant news reports about hippies, riots and LSD, graphic images of the wounded in Vietnam, etc. On the plus side, there was the excitement about the moon landing, and heartwarming TV shows like "The Andy Griffith Show" and harmless pablum like "The Brady Bunch."

To my mind, the big cultural shift happened from 1967-73. It was the era of Acid Rock, "drug rock" (Pink Floyd) and the birth of Heavy Metal (Black Sabbath/Led Zeppelin). It was the drug age (LSD, mushrooms, heroin), and the era of free love. Psychology took the place of religion, to a significant degree. It was the era of "demonstrations" against all institutions. And Vietnam was a hopeless quagmire.

Looking back is sad. I remember the "old school" people and institutions fading away, but I don't remember the same institutions in their glory.

For some reason, those years, 1967-1973, are sadder to me than the current state of our culture, which seems to be in free fall.

20 posted on 01/16/2013 4:46:46 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: VanDeKoik
Those shows were easily seen in syndication on cable, in the 1980s and beyond. Not so much in the early 1970s.
21 posted on 01/16/2013 5:04:38 AM PST by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: Cocoa2012

“Books were more popular than food stamps.”


Food stamps?

I’m 66 and we did not have food stamps back then. The government only gave them basic food items and nothing else......period!

There is no way that this “author” lived back then and he only plagiarized the writing of someone else.


22 posted on 01/16/2013 5:26:45 AM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Man, I’m right there with you. I remember black and white tv shows and loved them. I remember Petticoat Junction and really liking the red head, along with the train. I used to like watching the news and remember thinking what I was seeing on the news wasn’t matching up with what I was reading in my history books.

I had the advantage of growing up in a very small rural town so we were insulated against a lot of the change but it did eventually get to us. Sad to say.

I remember talking with my dad and telling him he grew up in the greatest time in American history.

We have really gone downhill.


23 posted on 01/16/2013 5:36:59 AM PST by ealgeone (obama, border)
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To: Cocoa2012

What I remember is teachers, firemen, cops and all other government workers made about 20K a year or less, and you knew if you worked for the gov’t you weren’t gonna get rich and that was fine.


24 posted on 01/16/2013 5:39:18 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: BykrBayb

Odd that most posts are responding to the TV part of the article and if the guy was accurate with the TV show, dates ad his age. What I found compelling what the entire article and how things use to be and how they are now.


25 posted on 01/16/2013 5:39:29 AM PST by Cocoa2012
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To: Cocoa2012

Don’t care what age he is. He still nails it.


26 posted on 01/16/2013 5:58:17 AM PST by Thorliveshere
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To: cynwoody

What does the age at which the author may have become politically aware have to do with anything? Just because a child may not have been cognizant of certain political realities back in the ‘60s and ‘70s, doesn’t mean they didn’t exist. That’s why the word REFLECTIONS is used in the title. It’s written by the adult that the child grew up to be.


27 posted on 01/16/2013 6:37:32 AM PST by DARCPRYNCE
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To: Cocoa2012
Some of these reminiscences sound rather curious for someone born around 1963.
28 posted on 01/16/2013 6:43:20 AM PST by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: napscoordinator

Nowhere in the article is The Donna Reed Show even mentioned. The image of that show’s characters would almost certainly have been chosen by the editors of the website that published the article, not its author. Most op-ed writers don’t include pictures with their written submissions.


29 posted on 01/16/2013 6:44:16 AM PST by DARCPRYNCE
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To: Thorliveshere

Agree! I am a new “teacher’s aide” for 3rd grade - and every day I think back about how things use to be in school. Did we have all these problems ? Why do kids today have these problems? Absentee parents? I am at a loss....


30 posted on 01/16/2013 6:47:09 AM PST by Cocoa2012
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To: cynwoody

You are right about that.

I am around this age. When I was a kid I had Liberals, the Media, and various people in the school system telling me that the Age of America was OVER because we had to evacuate the embassy in Saigon and now the world’s peoples were rising up against our colonialism and capitalist oppression in places like Iran. The future was going to be one of Kumbaya Global Socialism.

Of course I quickly figured out that was all B.S. Most of us did (the main notable exception being Barack Hussein Obama).


31 posted on 01/16/2013 6:47:22 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: napscoordinator

The author doesn’t imply that the programs to which you refer were the main shows of his childhood. In fact, he doesn’t even mention them. The picture posted with the article is an editorial addition that has nothing to do with the substance of the piece.


32 posted on 01/16/2013 6:49:08 AM PST by DARCPRYNCE
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To: Cocoa2012

I for one like this article. It brings back some of my memories of my childhood.


33 posted on 01/16/2013 6:54:47 AM PST by rfreedom4u (I have a copy of the Constitution! And I'm not afraid to use it!)
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To: Dr. Sivana

If you read the article, you’ll note that The Donna Reed Show isn’t mentioned in it. Images added to most op-eds are usually chosen by the publication’s editors, not the authors of the articles to which those images are applied.


34 posted on 01/16/2013 6:55:19 AM PST by DARCPRYNCE
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To: Little Pig
“and the 50’s really WAS Ozzie and Harriet, and The Beav, and the Beach Boys.

No, not the Beach Boys. They were formed in 1961, and their first hit record charted in early 1962.

35 posted on 01/16/2013 6:59:40 AM PST by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: Cocoa2012

I think he did a fair job of summing up the attitudes that were prevalent back then.

I don’t know if he has older siblings, but I do. As a result I grew up with a keen awareness of pop culture from up to a decade before my own generation.

Whether or not Leave It To Beaver was still on the air when he was growing up is of little consequence. That was still the world that most young children were living in.

Their older siblings may have run off to join a commune, but young children were still shielded from the horrors to come. They didn’t know anything about sex, much less sexual deviancy. They still played cowboys & indians, and dreamed of accomplishing great things.

They knew that America was the greatest nation ever, in the entire history of the world. And they were right.


36 posted on 01/16/2013 7:05:38 AM PST by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: DH

The food stamp program was in existence in the 1960s and ‘70s. The Food Stamp Act of 1964 was the beginning of the modern age of federal food supplement benefits dissemination, and in the early ‘70s it was expanded.


37 posted on 01/16/2013 7:06:48 AM PST by DARCPRYNCE
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To: Fiji Hill
No, not the Beach Boys. They were formed in 1961, and their first hit record charted in early 1962.

Of course, Brian Wilson went on to get hooked on LSD, and Dennis Wilson hung out with Charles Manson.

38 posted on 01/16/2013 7:12:16 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Little Pig
Mom got her monthly bricks of Government cheese and cans of government Pulled Pork,

That came to the attention of a soul singer from Detroit:

Welfare Cheese--Emmanuel Laskey (1963)

39 posted on 01/16/2013 7:16:54 AM PST by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: dfwgator
Of course, Brian Wilson went on to get hooked on LSD, and Dennis Wilson hung out with Charles Manson.

Seems they quickly got into the '60's counterculture.

40 posted on 01/16/2013 7:19:56 AM PST by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: Cocoa2012
There wasn't a single kid in my school who couldn't read, write, do basic math or recite the Pledge of Allegiance by the time they were eight years old... not one.

Those kids existed, they were just in the boiler room where they couldn't' be seen...or they were in institutions...or kept at home...

The past wasn't a bed of roses for anyone not white, middle-class, or average. Romanticizing it denies how far we've come in many ways.

However, I miss the innocence. That is something we lost that may not ever return. THAT is indeed sad.

41 posted on 01/16/2013 7:19:56 AM PST by SoftballMominVA
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To: SoftballMominVA

“Those kids existed, they were just in the boiler room where they couldn’t’ be seen...or they were in institutions...or kept at home...”
I must respectfully disagree. In 1953 I was 8 years old and in the 3rd grade. I went to P.S 41 in the Bronx N.Y and we did accomplish all those tasks. In addition we also had those dreaded air raid drills.


42 posted on 01/16/2013 7:33:03 AM PST by duckman (I'm part of the group pulling the wagon!)
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To: duckman
I believe that you did those things, as did I.

However, I teach children with special needs and I know our nation's past history with this population. It's not pretty.

43 posted on 01/16/2013 7:43:17 AM PST by SoftballMominVA
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To: Fiji Hill

People often confuse the fact that while blacks voted overwhelmingly for certain Democrat presidential candidates as far back as FDR, most still self-identified as Republicans and voted for GOP candidates in lesser races more often than not until the mid to late ‘60s. The 1964 Civil Rights Act was the beginning of an irreversible trend to Democrat from Republican of blacks generally, primarily because the GOP presidential candidate of that year, Barry Goldwater, had voted against the legislation while LBJ had signed it into law.

The statement that the greatest movie ever made was The Great Escape is merely an opinion, yet it is one held by a lot of American males who grew up in the ‘60s and ‘70s.

If the author was born in 1963, he would still have been a kid in 1975 when Atari Pong came out.

Mother Teresa’s name was well known to people all over the world before she won the Nobel.

While abortion may have been a growing political concern in the ‘60s, and while the Supreme Court did indeed decide the Roe Vs. Wade case in favor of abortion rights advocates in 1973, those facts do not suggest that the majority of people in the U.S. were “pro-choice” during that era. They were not.


44 posted on 01/16/2013 8:10:14 AM PST by DARCPRYNCE
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To: SoftballMominVA

The author doesn’t suggest that some kids in America couldn’t read, write, etc, only that in his school, everyone could.

As far as romanticizing the past goes, I’d trade every technical advance of the past 35 years for a return to basic, common sense, patriotism and the standards of decency in art, music, literature, theater and political discourse that most people used to embrace.


45 posted on 01/16/2013 8:41:28 AM PST by DARCPRYNCE
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To: DARCPRYNCE

Like I said, I’m 66 and there is no need to try to teach me what was life was back then.

LIKE I SAID “BACK THEN (prior to 1964) THERE WERE NO FOOD STAMPS...only commodities!”

The 50 year old kid that wrote the article was born in 1963 for crying out loud! He was not old enough to even experience life until 1968 and understand was was going on.

ALL that he speaks of happened many years before his time.

Good old President Johnson’s “Great Society” started in 1964 and the “kid” was only 1 year old. Food stamps came a few years after that.


46 posted on 01/16/2013 9:06:39 AM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: Cocoa2012
As a kid my household wasn't quite as “civilized” as Father Knows Best or Leave It To Beaver but it was a very good home led by two fine,decent,hard working parents.And their four kids all turned out to be decent,hard working adults.My entire family,in fact,since first arriving from Ireland and Scotland have been law abiding,normal,productive people who've made things like ObamaPhones possible.But we're clearly in the minority today.I say we secede.....the red states should form a new nation like Scotland and Quebec eventually will.We get most of the food and energy (among other things) and they get most of the ObamaPhones,heroin addicts and wetbacks!
47 posted on 01/16/2013 9:14:31 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (When Robbing Peter To Pay Paul,One Can Always Count On Paul's Cooperation)
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To: DARCPRYNCE
The 1964 Civil Rights Act was the beginning of an irreversible trend to Democrat from Republican of blacks generally, primarily because the GOP presidential candidate of that year, Barry Goldwater, had voted against the legislation while LBJ had signed it into law.

Seems they overlooked the fact that it was Republicans, especially conservatives such as Everett Dirksen (R-Ill.) who saved the Civil Rights act from being filibustered to death and that Barry Goldwater had pushed for the integration of the Phoenix airport in the 1950's.

48 posted on 01/16/2013 10:27:09 AM PST by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: Cocoa2012

Odd that most posts are responding to the TV part of the article and if the guy was accurate with the TV show, dates ad his age. What I found compelling what the entire article and how things use to be and how they are now.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Not odd at all. The reason why most replies ignored the meat of the article is because YOU ignored the meat of the article in your post.


49 posted on 01/16/2013 11:58:44 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: DARCPRYNCE
The last time republicans won the black vote for president was in 1932, I also think that few of us knew who Mother Theresa was in the early 1960s, but Dr. Albert Schweitzer was a huge international hero of the time, before he was 'erased'.

Here is a chart for black, party ID.

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50 posted on 01/16/2013 2:27:16 PM PST by ansel12 (Cruz said "conservatives trust Sarah Palin that if she says this guy is a conservative, that he is")
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