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OBAMA'S 23 EXECUTIVE ACTIONS ON GUNS
Fox Nation ^ | Jan 16 | Staff

Posted on 01/16/2013 9:16:55 AM PST by JesseWatters

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To: cuban leaf

#2 is about trying to loophole\bypass HIPPA privacy. That may take a bill from congress.

#16 is also kinda scary.
I went to the VA and they asked me if I owned any guns.
I said “HUH?
They said they could ask but I didn’t have to tell them anything. I’m guessing that will be the gist of # 16.

but the rest seems like Obama bailed.
Most of that stuff is somewhat in place in some form or another.


51 posted on 01/16/2013 9:34:53 AM PST by stylin19a (Obama - Fredo smart)
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To: Dead Corpse

Yep. I think that is the purpose of a “National Campaign”.


52 posted on 01/16/2013 9:35:45 AM PST by Aevery_Freeman (Proud Thought Criminal since 1984)
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To: JesseWatters
I could see this skunk going after the availability of ammo
more than guns.
53 posted on 01/16/2013 9:36:23 AM PST by Average Al
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To: JesseWatters

This list appears to be mostly fluff.


54 posted on 01/16/2013 9:36:53 AM PST by Longbow1969
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To: JesseWatters
On the Obamacare part of requiring doctors to get gun information. Hey, Roberts, happy now?
55 posted on 01/16/2013 9:37:16 AM PST by Logical me
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To: txrefugee

“Sorry Doc, it’s none of your business. By the way, have you ever have a medical practice complaint filed against you, or a malpractice lawsuit?”


56 posted on 01/16/2013 9:37:16 AM PST by From The Deer Stand
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To: JesseWatters
17. Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities.

Can't wait til someone invokes 'Right to Privacy' as "found" in 'Roe v Wade'

57 posted on 01/16/2013 9:37:40 AM PST by 11th_VA (When in the course of Human Events ...)
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To: Mamzelle

Hungover from the Down-Low...


58 posted on 01/16/2013 9:37:40 AM PST by martiangohome
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To: Menehune56

You are not under legal oath when you visit a doctor. Nothing says you have to answer that question truthfully.


59 posted on 01/16/2013 9:38:44 AM PST by mnehring
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To: bunkerhill7
The people at Columbine for the most part could not exercise their right to assemble because (1) They were minors, or (2) they were employees.

The kiddies, in fact, were there mostly because the state's mandatory school attendance laws said they had to be there.

Maybe Obama would like to UNDO school attendance laws, maybe public schools ~ get the kids out of those prison like structures that were so terribly difficult for them to ESCAPE when attacked.

60 posted on 01/16/2013 9:38:57 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: bunkerhill7
The people at Columbine for the most part could not exercise their right to assemble because (1) They were minors, or (2) they were employees.

The kiddies, in fact, were there mostly because the state's mandatory school attendance laws said they had to be there.

Maybe Obama would like to UNDO school attendance laws, maybe public schools ~ get the kids out of those prison like structures that were so terribly difficult for them to ESCAPE when attacked.

61 posted on 01/16/2013 9:39:22 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: JesseWatters

This is a total fold by Barry. Gun control is a dead issue. There will be NO new gun control that comes through the House and so there will be NO new gun control laws. At least if the Republicans keep the house and/or take the Senate.

He heard the NRA and the quiet call for his impeachment and decided, nothing is the best course of action.

Best course for House is pass a gun bill authorizing armed guards, training, streamlining and nationalizing CCL laws and elimination of ‘gun free zones’.


62 posted on 01/16/2013 9:39:27 AM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: From The Deer Stand

“Say Doc, how often do you have kinky sex with your wife and your dog? Can I watch? How much money is in your bank account?”


63 posted on 01/16/2013 9:40:37 AM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: JesseWatters

RE: #2.

Could #2 be a set up for fraud charges for not answering truthfully if the doctor asks?

Does the doctor have to report the patients answer to a database?


64 posted on 01/16/2013 9:40:47 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: JesseWatters

If Im reading this correctly he’s saying the left is still afraid of the NRA. Time will tell tho...


65 posted on 01/16/2013 9:40:56 AM PST by 556x45
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To: Pride in the USA; Stillwaters
Here are the 23 executive orders Ozero signed

23 executive orders

66 posted on 01/16/2013 9:40:56 AM PST by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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To: JesseWatters
No need for Laws, we must do as dear leader commands. Dump that old system of Laws, what Our Dear Leader commands is for the children.
67 posted on 01/16/2013 9:41:05 AM PST by swamprebel (a Constitution once changed from Freedom, can never be restored.)
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To: stylin19a

Tell them, “yeah, I keep an assault weapon in the trunk of my car;” [it’s a paint ball gun]; “ It’s not useful for hunting or personal protection, I only use it to shoot other humans ...”


68 posted on 01/16/2013 9:42:02 AM PST by 11th_VA (When in the course of Human Events ...)
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To: txrefugee
16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.

My wife just went to a new doctor here behind the hemp curtain in California she told me that the doctor gave her a form to fill out that asked all kinds of questions about things such as if she engaged in any extreme sports like scuba diving, motorcycle riding AND if there were any firearms in the house. Being from Georgia you can probably imagine what she told them. Had to find another doc.

69 posted on 01/16/2013 9:42:08 AM PST by johnny reb (When in the course of human events.....)
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To: ArGee
"Personally, I think the NRA should work to make guns safe, legal, and rare."

Just like abortion....how did that work out for us....

70 posted on 01/16/2013 9:42:20 AM PST by hummingbird
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
The Affordable Care Act has:
    ``(c) Protection of Second Amendment Gun Rights.--
            ``(1) Wellness and prevention programs.--A wellness and 
        health promotion activity implemented under subsection (a)(1)(D) 
        may not require the disclosure or collection of any information 
        relating to--
                    ``(A) the presence or storage of a lawfully-
                possessed firearm or ammunition in the residence or on 
                the property of an individual; or

[[Page 124 STAT. 885]]

                    ``(B) the lawful use, possession, or storage of a 
                firearm or ammunition by an individual.
            ``(2) Limitation on data collection.--None of the 
        authorities provided to the Secretary under the Patient 
        Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by that 
        Act shall be construed to authorize or may be used for the 
        collection of any information relating to--
                    ``(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a 
                firearm or ammunition;
                    ``(B) the lawful use of a firearm or ammunition; or
                    ``(C) the lawful storage of a firearm or ammunition.
            ``(3) Limitation on databases or data banks.--None of the 
        authorities provided to the Secretary under the Patient 
        Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by that 
        Act shall be construed to authorize or may be used to maintain 
        records of individual ownership or possession of a firearm or 
        ammunition.
I think that Obama will try to weasel his way out of that by "hinting" to health providers that they better ask anyway.

The part about forwarding HIPPA-protected data into the background-check system worries me the most. It could lead to a situation where if you've ever seen a psychiatrist for depression, it creates a permanent red flag.

71 posted on 01/16/2013 9:42:58 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude
Nothing like what I imagined he would do.

I haven't seen him today but hear he looks bad. Wondering if he got told to stand down on the hard stuff. Anyone with common sense would have seen he was ready to set off a nuclear political storm.

72 posted on 01/16/2013 9:43:25 AM PST by Kenny (<p)
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To: JesseWatters

bfl


73 posted on 01/16/2013 9:43:25 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: ArGee

You sound like a buffoon.


74 posted on 01/16/2013 9:43:38 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: bunkerhill7

Worst. President. Ever.


75 posted on 01/16/2013 9:43:38 AM PST by MWestMom ("And those that cried appease, appease were hung by those they tried to please" - Horace Mann)
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To: JesseWatters

#16 - Doctors will ask if you have guns in the home.

The whole purpose of this is to vilify gun owners and make them out to be lunatics.

Maybe we could start with asking if people are pedophiles? You know, people who really hurt children?

FUBO!


76 posted on 01/16/2013 9:43:46 AM PST by TSgt (Infringe upon my 2nd Amendment rights and learn how to speed read at 3000 feet per second...)
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To: JesseWatters

Too bad regulation number doesn’t apply to Obama. Also, just think about all the veterans who have ever diagnosed with PTSD, will not be allowed to own firearms. The people who fought, and are most likely to defend our nation, can’t legally own a weapon. Ridiculous......


77 posted on 01/16/2013 9:44:31 AM PST by mgist
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To: JesseWatters
Maybe this is pure coincidence, but given that there are no hard specifics just announced by Obama, Cheaper Than Dirt just sent out an e-mail saying they had high capacity mags in stock.

Coincidence? I think not.

(BTW, clicking through the e-mail link for a PMag and their web site still shows it's out of stock despite the proclamation of the e-mail.)

78 posted on 01/16/2013 9:45:00 AM PST by Obadiah (Those who will not hear the messengers of peace, shall be made to hear the messengers of war.)
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To: DainBramage

>> He will ask your children about your guns

... and about your mental stability as well.

“Ms. Teengirl, are your father and mother ever in a bad mood? Do they voice feelings of anger directed at you, or the government, or anyone else? I see. Thank you, I made a note. Now tell me about any firearms your parents are keeping in the house...”


79 posted on 01/16/2013 9:46:32 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: txrefugee
16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.

The only reason why a doctor needs to know about any firearm ownership is to make sure that you don't bring your gun into the MRI. It's a real bother when the magnets tear a patient's gun from his holster.

80 posted on 01/16/2013 9:46:36 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Choose one: the yellow and black flag of the Tea Party or the white flag of the Republican Party.)
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To: JesseWatters

Luckily none of those 23 would have any effect on me or my guns, except #13 which is sort of vague.


81 posted on 01/16/2013 9:47:40 AM PST by stuartcr ("I upraded my moral compass to a GPS, to keep up with the times.")
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To: txrefugee
16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.

This is VERY troubling. I can fully envision a pediatrician asking a mother if there are guns in the home during a regular visit. The pediatrician is forced to ask the question if he wants to get paid through Obamacare. The pediatrician also has noted the child has ADHD. The government then takes guns out of the home because the child has a mental illness.

We all know the incidences of ADHD are on the rise. Could it be Obama and the libs have found their confiscation 'trigger'?

82 posted on 01/16/2013 9:50:20 AM PST by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: basil

My doctor asks all the time, no problem. I tell him about the latest purchases, and tell him about my reloading, what hunting I’ve done..

Oh wait, that’s when we’re sitting at the bar drinking bourbon, and he’s telling me about his new ones too. .
In his office, he never asks.


83 posted on 01/16/2013 9:50:26 AM PST by absolootezer0 (2x divorced tattooed pierced harley hatin meghan mccain luvin' REAL beer drinkin' smoker ..what?)
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To: basil
"If a doctor asked me that question, I wouldn’t answer and would never visit that doctor again."

And the Doc may very will put you down as a gun owner or "refused to answer" (same thing) on a federal medical database. Better to just say "no" (yes, lie) and never come back.

84 posted on 01/16/2013 9:50:42 AM PST by circlecity
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To: basil

See how smart Obama is? He’s already got you mad at your doctor and your doctor probably packs.


85 posted on 01/16/2013 9:51:14 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Mamzelle

The threat of impeachment will do that to an impostor who illegally reside in the people’s house. Guess he can’t afford that confrontation, or risk being outed as a forger and fraud.


86 posted on 01/16/2013 9:51:14 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: stylin19a

“No legislative act, therefore, contrary to the Constitution, can be valid. To deny this, would be to affirm, that the deputy is greater than his principal; that the servant is above his master; that the representatives of the people are superior to the people themselves; that men acting by virtue of powers, may do not only what their powers do not authorize, but what they forbid. ... “

- Alexander Hamilton


87 posted on 01/16/2013 9:51:34 AM PST by Kenny (<p)
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To: Obadiah
Republicans still control the House,right? They have oversight over agencies and their funding, right?

Lesson #1: No agency ever has enforced oversight and funding will never be cut. Not by anyone. Never. If that ws possible, the ATF would have defanged and defunded in 1994 after buring all of those kids to death in Waco. Any poltician who promises to defund a government agency is lying to you.

88 posted on 01/16/2013 9:51:55 AM PST by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: basil

In 41 years I have never had a VA doc ask me if I own a gun.


89 posted on 01/16/2013 9:52:26 AM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll eventually get what you deserve)
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To: Red in Blue PA
You sound like a buffoon.

You're saying that because I want to use the Abortion lobby's tactics against them?

How much has abortion been reduced by the 'safe, legal and rare' mantra? How much have abortion rights been curtailed?

Think about it. You use the tagline, but you push for what you really want. After a decade or so, you drop 'rare.'

90 posted on 01/16/2013 9:52:47 AM PST by ArGee (Reality - what a concept.)
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To: Orangedog

Can’t argue with that, but the authority is there.


91 posted on 01/16/2013 9:53:08 AM PST by Obadiah (Those who will not hear the messengers of peace, shall be made to hear the messengers of war.)
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To: JesseWatters
Will #2 allow them to require a database of individuals on any medication that they consider to be incompatible with gun ownership?
92 posted on 01/16/2013 9:53:59 AM PST by MWestMom ("And those that cried appease, appease were hung by those they tried to please" - Horace Mann)
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To: JesseWatters
There are a few in here that are potentially problematic:

"Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes"
This one could be used in pretty evil ways, ways in which you could no longer sell a semi-auto rifle that would function as we know it today.

"Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime"
What the hell is that? That's worse than the "disorderly conduct" catch-all

"Propose rule-making to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun"
So if you get pulled over speeding while carrying... this is also ripe for abuse

This sonofabitch has to go.

93 posted on 01/16/2013 9:54:04 AM PST by FunkyZero (... I've got a Grand Piano to prop up my mortal remains)
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To: JesseWatters

4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks.

Maybe creating new groups of people that are not allowed to own or purchase guns?

Go to a doctor and say your stressed out or dealing with anxiety? Maybe that will put you into a new group disqualified from having a gun. Post a rant on the Internet? Categorizes you as having anger issues. No guns for you!


94 posted on 01/16/2013 9:54:26 AM PST by Render
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To: hummingbird
Just like abortion....how did that work out for us....

Exactly. Look how abortion numbers and rights have fared since NOW used that phrase.

95 posted on 01/16/2013 9:56:50 AM PST by ArGee (Reality - what a concept.)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

Hippa(crit) has allowed for years that a doctor has to inform the authority of certain things. In MI and PA (that I know of) doctor can tell DMV if their patient admits to heavy alcohol drinking.. And DMV can revoke license.


96 posted on 01/16/2013 9:57:37 AM PST by absolootezer0 (2x divorced tattooed pierced harley hatin meghan mccain luvin' REAL beer drinkin' smoker ..what?)
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To: Timber Rattler; All
It’s mostly a bunch of B.S.

I didn't get anything out of the listed actions myself.

On the other hand, let's not overlook that the WH and media are always trying to make Obama look like a king.

97 posted on 01/16/2013 9:57:38 AM PST by Amendment10
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To: 11th_VA

course, it begs the question...what happens if I decide to tell them and they find out I lied - either way ?


98 posted on 01/16/2013 9:57:39 AM PST by stylin19a (Obama - Fredo smart)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude
He cut Sibelius into the loop but she, like Biden, is the very kind of brain damaged or mentally ill person we should be working to lock up.

That really doesn't make any sense on his part unless he's got some problem of his own.

99 posted on 01/16/2013 9:57:43 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: bunkerhill7
Actual quotes:
Along with our freedom to live our lives as we will comes an obligation to allow others to do the same. We don’t live in isolation. We live in a society, a government for and by the people. We are responsible for each other. We have the right to worship freely and safely; that right was denied to Sikhs in Oak Creek, Wisconsin. The right to assemble peacefully; that right was denied shoppers in Placimus (ph), Oregon, and moviegoers in Aurora, Colorado.

That most fundamental set of rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, fundamental rights that were denied to college students at Virginia Tech and high school students at Columbine and elementary school students in Newtown; and kids on street corners in Chicago on too frequent basis to tolerate; and all the families who never imagined they’d lose a loved one to -- to a bullet, those rights are at stake. We’re responsible.

Wow! I know Obama is bad but to not understand rights, the Constitution, and the restrictions on the government is beyond belief even for him.

I won't hold my breath waiting for anyone in the press to hold him accountable either.

100 posted on 01/16/2013 9:57:50 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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