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Obama: Doctors Should Ask About Guns in Homes
Newsmax ^ | Wednesday, 16 Jan 2013 11:58 AM | Jim Meyers

Posted on 01/16/2013 9:53:02 AM PST by Olog-hai

You’re visiting your doctor because you have flu symptoms. After checking your heart, pulse and other vital signs, your doctor turns to you and asks, “By the way, the federal government has authorized me to ask you, What type and how many guns do you have in your home?”

Sounds like George Orwell’s “1984”? Wrong. It’s 2013. And if President Barack Obama gets his way by executive order, doctors across the country could play a key role in his new gun control initiative.

On Wednesday morning, Obama released a sweeping 23 executive actions and orders he will take to limit gun usage. Already, talk of the executive orders has raised significant controversy. Order 16, for example, may raise serious concerns with privacy advocates. The order, as summarized, simply states federal agencies will “clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.” …

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; guncontrol; obamacareguns; obamagunpresser; secondamendment
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Hmm. Sounds like stuff that was mentioned to have been part of the Affordable Care Act two years ago.
1 posted on 01/16/2013 9:53:03 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Related:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2978732/posts


2 posted on 01/16/2013 9:54:28 AM PST by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: Olog-hai

What about doctor-hunter privilege?


3 posted on 01/16/2013 9:55:10 AM PST by TruthShallSetYouFree (July 4, 1776: Declaration of Independence. Nov 6, 2012: Declaration of Dependence. R.I.P. America.)
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To: Olog-hai

Step 1: Force health care providers to ask the question.
Step 2: Force health care providers to deny care if you don’t answer the question.


4 posted on 01/16/2013 9:55:22 AM PST by DManA
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To: Olog-hai

They can ask all they want. And I can just tell them to baisse my cul.


5 posted on 01/16/2013 9:56:08 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Olog-hai

“By the way, the federal government has authorized me to ask you, What type and how many guns do you have in your home?”

Well, Doc, God authorized me to tell you it’s none of your damned business and do what you’re being paid to do.


6 posted on 01/16/2013 9:56:50 AM PST by Terry Mross (People who hate me read my posts and get angry. Yet they can't look away. hee hee)
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To: DManA

“Step 1: Force health care providers to ask the question.
Step 2: Force health care providers to deny care if you don’t answer the question.”

Step 3: Force health care provider to remove their stethoscope from their colon after I shove it there because they refused to treat my PMS.


7 posted on 01/16/2013 9:57:37 AM PST by MeganC (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: Olog-hai

I hope the doc has dental insurance, ‘cuz he’s gonna need it.


8 posted on 01/16/2013 9:58:40 AM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: Olog-hai

Reply:
Aw Doc, I ain’t into huntin, and why would you have a gun if yer not into huntin???????


9 posted on 01/16/2013 9:59:05 AM PST by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: Olog-hai
hm..

I am assuming this is talking about psychiatrists or other doctors dealing with the mentally ill and not your friendly neighborhood family doctor giving you a checkup and a flu shot.

10 posted on 01/16/2013 9:59:59 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: Olog-hai

Well, I’ve been lying to my doctor about not smoking for the last thirty years, I guess lying about guns isn’t going to do any harm...


11 posted on 01/16/2013 10:00:21 AM PST by apillar
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To: MeganC

Yes dear.


12 posted on 01/16/2013 10:00:39 AM PST by DManA
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To: Olog-hai

Ok, we all know what we would say.

The question is how do you guide your wife and children to respond to invasive questions?

Easy for the Doc to trick the kids!

“Does your Dad hunt?”


13 posted on 01/16/2013 10:00:49 AM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: Olog-hai

It has been asked at our local hospital for at least two years, it’s on the multiple sheets of questions you have to fill out when you go in. Maybe this means they are going to be required to ask it verbally?


14 posted on 01/16/2013 10:02:51 AM PST by pepperdog ( I still get a thrill up my leg when spell check doesn't recognize the name/word Obama!)
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To: Olog-hai

My canoe capsized yesterday and everything aboard was lost, including any fireams I might have had. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.

And daymn but that water was cold.


15 posted on 01/16/2013 10:02:51 AM PST by Rannug ("God has given it to me, let him who touches it beware.")
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To: Olog-hai

No doc, there aren’t any guns in my home. It’s that easy.


16 posted on 01/16/2013 10:03:20 AM PST by RC one (.From My Cold Dead Hands.)
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree

“What about doctor-hunter privilege?”

That’s just about as bogus as doctor-patient privilege. There is no doctor-patient privilege. HIPPA is also bogus. Just like they say on TV crime shows, “stay out of the system”.


17 posted on 01/16/2013 10:04:00 AM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: Olog-hai

“By the way, the federal government has authorized me to ask you, What type and how many guns do you have in your home?”

***

No, doc, the Constitution does not authorize you to ask, and until and unless it forces me to, I’m not answering.

I didn’t answer the last two censuses. What makes anyone think I’ll answer this question?


18 posted on 01/16/2013 10:04:15 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: Olog-hai

If any doc asks me anything like this:

1) I will lie to him/her.

2) I will never make another appointment with him/her again.

Don’t give some smart-ass answer, don’t tell him its none of his business, don’t make a big deal about it, just lie. You’ll stay off yet another list that way. No use making it easy for the statists - make the basturds work for it, at least.


19 posted on 01/16/2013 10:04:27 AM PST by Ancesthntr (Banning guns to prevent crime is like banning cars to prevent drunk driving.)
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To: Olog-hai

"Guns? I don't have any guns in my home doc."

(My wife might have a few, but that's not for me to say)


20 posted on 01/16/2013 10:04:29 AM PST by Iron Munro (I Miss America, don't you?)
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To: Olog-hai

Now when the doctor asks “What is the primary safety”? then puts goop on it and rams it up my butt I’ll remember.


21 posted on 01/16/2013 10:04:34 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: Olog-hai

Simple solution: lie. “Oh, no, Doc. I don’t have any guns. I hate guns. Wouldn’t let ‘em near me. No sirree ...”


22 posted on 01/16/2013 10:04:47 AM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: Terry Mross

Look up oppositional defiant disorder in the DSM IV. That kind of answer will get you reported to the feds as being “mentally ill” and prohibited from gun ownership.


23 posted on 01/16/2013 10:05:06 AM PST by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: Olog-hai

He can ask; I don’t have to answer


24 posted on 01/16/2013 10:05:06 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: Olog-hai

That’s right. It is against the law for the docs to ask, or has Zero forgotten what he signed into law? This ought to be fun....


25 posted on 01/16/2013 10:06:39 AM PST by Quickgun (I got here kicking,screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: Olog-hai

The federal government has authorized me to ask for your papers please.
Every day he takes a right away,you snooze you lose.


26 posted on 01/16/2013 10:08:20 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: Iron Munro

27 posted on 01/16/2013 10:08:40 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: windcliff; stylecouncilor

Seinfeld re Elaine’s chart....

Illegitimate.


28 posted on 01/16/2013 10:09:11 AM PST by onedoug
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To: Terry Mross

When the doctor asks,do you have a gun,I ask,do you?What kind how many,how much ammo do you have?


29 posted on 01/16/2013 10:09:28 AM PST by ballplayer
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To: Squantos
I sincerely hope that there is a place for free form text on the questionnaire because my only two answers will be "Go to hell" and "Kiss my ass".
30 posted on 01/16/2013 10:09:57 AM PST by hiredhand
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To: TexasRepublic

Doc I see you have a crooked nose, you must have been practicing since 2013.


31 posted on 01/16/2013 10:10:53 AM PST by MaxMax (Gun free zones was the invitation to gun bans by the left, at any cost)
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To: Olog-hai; xzins
As they say in boot camp:

This is my rifle
and
THIS is my gun....

If the doctor asks, then you just say, "I got your gun right here. Put that in your chart."

32 posted on 01/16/2013 10:12:27 AM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree

They also have veterinarians collecting data under the guise of asking if you use your dog for hunting.


33 posted on 01/16/2013 10:12:51 AM PST by Eva
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To: Rannug

A good doc would say take two asprin and call me in the morning. If you have a good doc, take him out to the range or hunting.


34 posted on 01/16/2013 10:13:36 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: MeganC

LOL!

That was a good one, Megan!


35 posted on 01/16/2013 10:13:52 AM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (November 6, 2012.....A day that will live in infamy!)
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To: Olog-hai

Obamacare also makes all medical records, in part, property of the federal government. If your doctor records your answers to his/her questions about what guns types and quanities you keep in your house, that information is also property of the federal government.

My wife and I just agreed we would not be sharing that information with our doctors.


36 posted on 01/16/2013 10:13:52 AM PST by Tenacious 1 ("The Brittish are Comming (to confiscate weapons)" - Paul Revere (We know how that ended))
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To: MeganC

LOL Megan!


37 posted on 01/16/2013 10:14:33 AM PST by Mygirlsmom (If bad plastic surgeons were banned, then Bob Costas' normal face would still be alive.)
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To: Olog-hai
"the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.”

Doctors who ask this question are doing this for their own reasons/agenda, there is no mandate for him to ask or me to answer -- medical or other -- to do so.

MY doctor would never ask. If I go to a doctor (specialists, etc.) that does ask, he is going to get more questions from me than he will ever want to deal with. I'll tie him up till he says never mind.
38 posted on 01/16/2013 10:15:46 AM PST by Jackson Brown
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To: Orangedog
Look up oppositional defiant disorder in the DSM IV. That kind of answer will get you reported to the feds as being “mentally ill” and prohibited from gun ownership.

You are absoutely correct, while it my be entertaining to post defiant comments here, in fact just LIE

39 posted on 01/16/2013 10:16:49 AM PST by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: RC one
No doc, there aren’t any guns in my home. It’s that easy.

It goes far beyond that. The doctor will ask your children. The doctor will ask your children if they know if any of their friends have guns. All of that then goes into a massive database that never forgets.

40 posted on 01/16/2013 10:17:03 AM PST by fso301
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To: Olog-hai

Well, if my doctor won’t accept “none of your f***ing business” as an answer, it will be time to find a new doctor.


41 posted on 01/16/2013 10:17:22 AM PST by kevkrom (If a wise man has an argument with a foolish man, the fool only rages or laughs...)
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To: anyone

At least in my part of the country, Oklahoma, I’m pretty sure most doctors are just utterly THRILLED to be instructed to act as proxies for the State on this matter (sarcasm) at the same time the State tries its best to reduce their income and increase their paperwork and vulnerabilities to lawsuits through Obamacare. Sure, there are probably doctors who worship Obama and the State, but I don’t think this new initiative is going to create new ones from their ranks.


42 posted on 01/16/2013 10:17:55 AM PST by Coyote Choir
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To: pepperdog; Olog-hai
It has been asked at our local hospital for at least two years

Back when I was still in the work force, I was required to have an annual hearing test. One of the questions I was always asked was if I smoked. I always said no, even though I did indeed smoke, thinking, what the hell does smoking have to do with hearing.

One year she asked me, I said no and she said, "I can see a pack of cigarettes in your shirt pocket". I told her that I was just carrying them for a friend, who didn't want his parents to know that he smoked.

She was not amused.

43 posted on 01/16/2013 10:18:26 AM PST by Graybeard58
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To: Olog-hai
Obama released a sweeping 23 executive actions and orders he will take to limit gun usage,.

That is the biggest overstatement in the history of reporting.

44 posted on 01/16/2013 10:18:26 AM PST by pfflier
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
"They can ask all they want. And I can just tell them to baisse my cul."

In which case he will put you down as "refused to answer" which the Feds will treat as a "yes" answer. Better to just lie and say no.

45 posted on 01/16/2013 10:19:50 AM PST by circlecity
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To: DManA

Step 3: Lie to the sorry bastards. Not a case where the truth is obligatory, useful, nor merited.


46 posted on 01/16/2013 10:19:55 AM PST by chesley (Vast deserts of political ignorance makes liberalism possible - James Lewis)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Don’t count on that.


47 posted on 01/16/2013 10:20:53 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Olog-hai
Lots of stupid comments on this thread, already blaming physicians for being arms of Obamacare.

First of all, physicians are overwhelmingly conservative and many are gun owners or licensed dealers in arms.

Second, the worthless American glommy people are the ones whose representatives wanted Obamacare, and who voted for Obama, where all this intrusion is coming from.

The American people must have wanted this sort of invasion of privacy because they just went along with socializing all of medicine.

It sure ain't the fault of the physicians.

And even if the American people enjoy sticking it to the medical profession by consigning them forever to socialism, most physicians still have enough integrity to disobey any of these sorts of orders to report on their (treacherous) countrymen. They won't be ratting you out.

48 posted on 01/16/2013 10:23:16 AM PST by caddie
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To: Eva
"Macht schnell! You vill answer mein question, herr, or the Geheime Staats polizei vill visit your home und shutzen your doggie! "Nice doggie. They will shutzen him anyway. Now, confess citizen! How many fingers?" Herr Doktor Kleine Liebchen
49 posted on 01/16/2013 10:24:06 AM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Olog-hai

“Nope doc, no guns in my house. Now please proceed with the annual bloodstream lead check, because I’m really in to my stained glass hobby.”


50 posted on 01/16/2013 10:24:31 AM PST by Trod Upon (Civilian disarmament is the precursor to democide.)
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