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Whole Foods CEO says Obama healthcare law is 'more like fascism'
The Hill ^ | 01/16/2013 | Elise Viebeck

Posted on 01/16/2013 10:24:13 AM PST by SeekAndFind

The CEO of Whole Foods Market said President Obama's healthcare law is more like "fascism" than "socialism," a parallel he drew in 2009, to some backlash.

John Mackey made the remark in an interview Wednesday with NPR.

"Technically speaking, it's more like fascism," Mackey said of the Affordable Care Act. "Socialism is where the government owns the means of production. In fascism, the government doesn't own the means of production, but they do control it, and that's what's happening with our healthcare programs and these reforms."

The term "fascism" was first used to describe the right-wing regime of Italian leader Benito Mussolini, and was later applied to the Nazis and the authoritarian leadership of Francisco Franco in Spain.

Mackey made headlines in 2009 for a Wall Street Journal op-ed that compared healthcare reform to socialism.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fascism; healthcare; obamacare; obamacarefascism; wholefoods

1 posted on 01/16/2013 10:24:15 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

This is something new: Obammunism ( Crony Socialism ). All the worst of Crony Capitalism combined with all the worst of Socialism.


2 posted on 01/16/2013 10:27:25 AM PST by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I would not be surprised to learn that most of Whole Foods clientele voted Democrat and love Obama care.


3 posted on 01/16/2013 10:29:30 AM PST by Parmy
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To: SeekAndFind

This is extremely interesting coming from the CEO of Whole Foods. In most of the Whole Foods in my area, this market is sort of like a major Democrat/left wing gathering spot. The employees seem rather far left as well. It’s too bad the views of the CEO don’t filter down to the employees and customers of Whole Foods.


4 posted on 01/16/2013 10:30:41 AM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: SeekAndFind

The CEO of Whole Foods Market said President Obama’s healthcare law is more like “fascism” >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

McKay is correct, read here:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html


5 posted on 01/16/2013 10:31:18 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: SeekAndFind

He pegged it right it is fascism.

When I was in high school and college I took history and political science courses where they would put fascism and communism on the opposite spectrums on a straight line graph.

I just laughed and told them freedom and slavery are opposites, how do you place them within the context of your graph, or maybe right and wrong, how does that fit in your theory.

I was not well liked with a lot of professors.

bobo


6 posted on 01/16/2013 10:32:03 AM PST by bobo1 (the KDE plasma desktop is awesome!)
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To: SeekAndFind

That’s bold. As bold as anything I have ever heard from a business leader. Given Whole Foods clientele, this is going to be a flammable situation. I may need to stop in to spend some money soon.


8 posted on 01/16/2013 10:32:25 AM PST by ilgipper (Obama supporters are comprised of the uninformed & the ill-informed)
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To: SeekAndFind

I like the way the author calls Mussolini a “right-wing” dictator.


9 posted on 01/16/2013 10:32:53 AM PST by woweeitsme
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

Think they’re based out ot Texas. But yes their clientel sure seems yuppie leftish


10 posted on 01/16/2013 10:33:36 AM PST by jcon40
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To: SeekAndFind

Well, either one is only sustainable with dictators in charge, so the net effect on the populace remains constant.


11 posted on 01/16/2013 10:34:26 AM PST by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Many of us have said this for a long time. Maybe the concept will gain traction. As Jonah Golberg pointed out, Progressivism/Liberalism has always been Fascism. Obama has ramped it up, but he hasn't really changed anything.

You know, when Eisenhower made his remark about the "military-industrial complex" he was talking about this. It's not just Defense/Military stuff. When the government allies itself with industry, things go badly. Government should not control commerce. Eisenhower understood this -- it corrupts both government and industry. The CEO of Whole Foods gets it.

12 posted on 01/16/2013 10:34:42 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: F15Eagle
Well, to be compared to Benito Mussolini, one would have to stick one’s nose in the air with an arrogant look, like Benito Mussolini did. Hmmmm.....
13 posted on 01/16/2013 10:38:05 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: Parmy

“I would not be surprised to learn that most of Whole Foods clientele voted Democrat and love Obama care.”

You would be correct out here in CalifornicateU land.

These comments by the Whole Foods’s CEO has to be causing confusion amongst the left wing elites out here.


14 posted on 01/16/2013 10:38:20 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Tagline space for rent to pay for some of my extra taxes the next 4 years!)
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To: SeekAndFind
"The term "fascism" was first used to describe the right-wing regime of Italian leader Benito Mussolini, and was later applied to the Nazis and the authoritarian leadership of Francisco Franco in Spain.

Fascism & Nazism are LEFTwing systems - different faces of the same coin (communism).

Either leftist bias or the writer is simply a stupid, useful idiot.

15 posted on 01/16/2013 10:38:54 AM PST by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: F15Eagle
BUT THEN, IL DUCE, WOULD NEVER DO THIS...


16 posted on 01/16/2013 10:40:58 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: newfreep

Yup. Political systems are either Collectivist or Individualist. It’s real clear where communism, socialism and fascism fall: they are all collectivist ideologies, and historically they have admitted this (Mussolini was open about being a collectivist; Hitler’s party was National Socialist). It’s only in the era of modern Public Relations that the Left has adopted the idea of saying, “Those guys who are bad? The guys you don’t like? Nazis, and Fascists and such? Well ... they’re ... they’re right-wingers. Yeah. That’s the ticket.”


17 posted on 01/16/2013 10:43:25 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: F15Eagle

18 posted on 01/16/2013 10:49:00 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Tagline space for rent to pay for some of my extra taxes the next 4 years!)
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To: F15Eagle

19 posted on 01/16/2013 10:49:17 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Tagline space for rent to pay for some of my extra taxes the next 4 years!)
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To: woweeitsme

I like the way the author calls Mussolini a “right-wing” dictator.

Yeah, cause when i think of Fascist 1940’s Italy I immediately think “Limited Government” I despise the way the Left has a strangle hold on the language....


20 posted on 01/16/2013 10:50:06 AM PST by GraceG
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To: SeekAndFind

You know, Romney really didn’t have to say anything at the debates - just show up with a posterboard with those three pictures on it and smile meaningfully at Obama. It would have been so easy to win, had that been his actual mission. :)


21 posted on 01/16/2013 10:53:36 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: Parmy

The clientele probably did vote Obama. They were in shock when the owner came out hard against Obamacare. And that guy has a reputation for treating his employees very well.
Proving that no amount of classic good treatment of employees matters to the emerging dictatorship.


22 posted on 01/16/2013 10:54:50 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Earth to Mackey: Fascism IS a form of socialism. Go find a mirror. That’s you.


23 posted on 01/16/2013 10:56:06 AM PST by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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To: SeekAndFind
The term "fascism" was first used to describe the right-wing regime of Italian leader Benito Mussolini, and was later applied to the Nazis and the authoritarian leadership of Francisco Franco in Spain.

Right-wing? Odd, considering that Mussolini came from the Italian socialist party and was even the editor of their newspaper Avanti! (Forward! hmm, who used the slogan "forward" in the recent campaign?). He split from the socialist party over whether Italy should be neutral in WW I or should attack to reclaim land from Austria-Hungary, not over basic ideology or economics.

24 posted on 01/16/2013 10:58:21 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Choose one: the yellow and black flag of the Tea Party or the white flag of the Republican Party.)
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To: SeekAndFind
"The term "fascism" was first used to describe the right-wing regime of Italian leader Benito Mussolini, and was later applied to the Nazis and the authoritarian leadership of Francisco Franco in Spain"

This statement shows a complete failure of our education system and conservative discourse. Fascism IS NOT "RIGHT WING", it is LEFT WING. The left side of the political spectrum is complete central government ownership and control through unelected officials. The extreme right side of the spectrum is anarchy - no government laws or control. Fascism is just slightly to the right of communism, but way to the left of a constitutional republic, which is the best form of representative government that recognizes and protects unalienable individual rights. A constitutional republic does not allow "the tyranny of the masses" to exist (i.e. Democracy - being able to vote into existence laws that infringe on the unalienable rights of the minority).

25 posted on 01/16/2013 11:01:49 AM PST by uncommonsense (Conservatives believe what they see; Liberals see what they believe.)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

This is extremely interesting coming from the CEO of Whole Foods. In most of the Whole Foods in my area, this market is sort of like a major Democrat/left wing gathering spot. The employees seem rather far left as well. It’s too bad the views of the CEO don’t filter down to the employees and customers of Whole Foods.


Same here. I may have to rethink my shopping strategy if that’s how their CEO thinks. Would be fun to invade the store as conservatives anyway, humming patriotic tunes, watching the liberals scatter out of my way waving their fingers at me in the sign of the evil eye. Delicious fun!


26 posted on 01/16/2013 11:04:21 AM PST by MWestMom (Will Americans stop someone who views our children as "collateral damage" in their quest for power?)
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To: ClearCase_guy
If the era of modern pubic relations began in the late fifties or early sixties you could be right. I got that "Socialism left - Fascism right" illustration in high school and later got in trouble for suggesting that they close the circle by joining the two ends.

As another response noted, Goldberg did a great job of illustrating commonalities between Hitler, Roosevelt, Stalin, and Benito,
sadly, he wrote his book pre Obama.

27 posted on 01/16/2013 11:04:42 AM PST by norton
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To: bobo1

I agree. If it quacks like a duck, walks like a duck, it’s a duck. Call a spade a spade. Whoops. PC slip there.


28 posted on 01/16/2013 11:04:55 AM PST by waredbird
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To: SeekAndFind
right-wing regime of Italian leader Benito Mussolini

LOL. Mussolini was a socialist through and through. Fascism is just socialism with a little less pixie dust about "equality."

29 posted on 01/16/2013 11:07:54 AM PST by HomeAtLast ( You're either with the Tea Party, or you're with the EBT Party.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Good for him. Guess I’m going to have to stop in and buy some kale chips or something.


30 posted on 01/16/2013 11:24:16 AM PST by alphadoggie
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To: SeekAndFind

Good for him. Guess I’m going to have to stop in and buy some kale chips or something.


31 posted on 01/16/2013 11:24:22 AM PST by alphadoggie
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To: SeekAndFind

But then, “El Douche” is no Il Duce.


32 posted on 01/16/2013 11:31:23 AM PST by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines; Parmy

Whole Foods in my area is frequented by old hippies and I have no doubt that the management are staunch 0bamunists.


33 posted on 01/16/2013 11:41:55 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (It's not "GUN CONTROL"! It's "PEOPLE CONTROL"!)
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To: The Sons of Liberty
The upper managment at Whole Foods is conservative. Their clientele are looney lefties. Most don't know.
34 posted on 01/16/2013 11:48:27 AM PST by Varda
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To: Varda

I love WF. Wish I could afford to buy food though.


35 posted on 01/16/2013 12:14:05 PM PST by bicyclerepair ( >-> Zombies eat brains. >-> 50% of FL is safe.)
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To: DesertRhino

Love pulling into the WF parking lot in my Yukon with NRA sticker in the window along with Vietnam Veteran decal and parking beside a Prius with an “O” bumper sticker. What is best is to park between them and the store so they can’t find their car.

WF is supposed to be a great place to work as management actually cares about the employees.


36 posted on 01/16/2013 12:22:40 PM PST by SLB (23rd Artillery Group, Republic of South Vietnam, Aug 1970 - Aug 1971.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I will have to go there again


38 posted on 01/16/2013 12:32:18 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Witty saying goes here...)
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To: bicyclerepair

It’s expensive because they cater to people who believe in “organic” eating. That’s not me so I don’t go.


39 posted on 01/16/2013 12:43:23 PM PST by Varda
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To: SeekAndFind
Obama = Il Dunce
40 posted on 01/16/2013 1:25:51 PM PST by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change!)
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To: JohnBovenmyer

BTW, “Dunce” should be pronounced as “done Ché,” a title of honor to his acolytes.


41 posted on 01/16/2013 1:38:44 PM PST by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I like John Mackey. He made headlines long before the 2009. piece.

He beat up on the punks at the DOJ who were trying to make themselves a career. He has balls. He’s kind of a conservative tree-hugger.

Here’s a 2007 video I uploaded regarding Mackey:

Whole Food’s CEO & The Predatory Lawyers
http://youtu.be/MyVkxCKCUtI


42 posted on 01/16/2013 1:51:44 PM PST by publius321
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To: SeekAndFind

No surprise here. Mackey is a self confessed libertarian - the antithesis of Socialism/Fascism.


43 posted on 01/16/2013 2:14:53 PM PST by Timocrat (Ingnorantia non excusat)
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To: ilgipper

hahah. Whole Foods. its all about exploiting the nutty organic types. Purely business. Satisfying the customer. I suspect the CEO is a libertarian at heart.


44 posted on 01/16/2013 9:10:40 PM PST by no-s (when democracy is displaced by tyranny, the armed citizen still gets to vote)
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