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Where Is the Inflation?
16 January 201 ^ | Mark Thornton

Posted on 01/16/2013 10:48:17 AM PST by arthurus

The basic notion that more money, i.e., inflation, causes higher prices, i.e., price inflation, is not a uniquely Austrian view. It is a very old and commonly held view by professional economists and is presented in nearly every textbook that I have examined.

This common view is often labeled the quantity theory of money. Only economists with a Mercantilist or Keynesian ideology even challenge this view. However, only Austrians can explain the current dilemma: why hasn't the massive money printing by the central banks of the world resulted in higher prices.

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KEYWORDS: austrian; economics; inflation
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To: Moonman62

Agreed, but there is no growth. And the growth would have to be independent of the other 3 variables.

For example, if M and V were fixed, but Q grew, then P would have to decline in order for the equation to work.

Prices can decline when lots more stuff is produced and money supply and velocity are static. That would be a “same number of dollars chasing more goods” scenario. Prices for the same goods would drop.

(P.S. - I know this is about the second layer of Macro Economics. There are further refinements beyond this explanation.)


21 posted on 01/16/2013 11:16:01 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (The shooter in CT was a Satanist. Curtail Satanists' First Amendment Rights for the Children!)
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To: arthurus

Bought groceries lately, or paid healthcare premiums? Dollars buy less everyday, but inflation doesn’t exist. It’s a strange world we live in, the way we figure things.


22 posted on 01/16/2013 11:17:45 AM PST by pallis
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To: arthurus

It’s in China.

We print money, and use it to pay China for goods. In order to maintain a fixed exchange rate, the Chinese government has to print Chinese money. This causes prices to soar in China.

Eventually, of course, they’ll have to charge us more for their goods.


23 posted on 01/16/2013 11:18:07 AM PST by proxy_user
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To: tbpiper
Next time you go to the grocery store, look at the packages. You’re paying the same price for less stuff.

Old news. From a Mad Magazine in the 1960s:


24 posted on 01/16/2013 11:19:06 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Choose one: the yellow and black flag of the Tea Party or the white flag of the Republican Party.)
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To: arthurus

I’m seeing REAL inflation at the grocery store. Prices are substantially up.


25 posted on 01/16/2013 11:22:27 AM PST by Little Ray (Waiting for the return of the Gods of the Copybook Headings.)
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To: pallis

Figures lie and liars figure...


26 posted on 01/16/2013 11:22:53 AM PST by jurroppi1
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To: arthurus

>>Where Is the Inflation?<<

To state the obvious - It’s at every supermarket, food warehouse and retail store in America.

Every week prices on foods go up and up again.

Example:

Last spring a 50 lb. bag of pinto beans at the local wholesale food warehouse was $18.

Yesterday the same bag of pinto beans were $37.

A 50 lb. bag of red beans has now risen to $49.


27 posted on 01/16/2013 11:23:44 AM PST by Iron Munro (I Miss America, don't you?)
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To: arthurus

I’ve seen it in freerepublic before that the method of calculating inflation has changed over the years. According to John Williams of shadowstats.com, if inflation was measured the same way that it was back in 1990, the inflation rate would be about 5 percent right now. If inflation was measured the same way that it was back in 1980, the inflation rate would be about 9 percent right now. But instead, we are expected to believe that the inflation rate is hovering around 2 percent.
I guess this was done to prevent the sheeple from knowing how bad things really are.


28 posted on 01/16/2013 11:27:26 AM PST by wattsgnu
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To: Iron Munro
I've heard it described as inflation of the essentials and deflation of the luxuries. Second houses have gotten a lot cheaper while the beans are getting more expensive. However far more people are worried about the bean prices in the current economy and the Bureau of Labor Statistics probably haven't adjusted their inflation calculations (or dare not adjust them for fear of what statistical honesty would release) to reflect current purchasing priorities.
29 posted on 01/16/2013 11:27:27 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Choose one: the yellow and black flag of the Tea Party or the white flag of the Republican Party.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
A 5-gallon gas can at Wal-Mart priced out at $16 dollars yesterday. That’s a bit high for a piece of plastic, don’t you think?

You can thank the EPA for that.

30 posted on 01/16/2013 11:33:38 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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To: arthurus

Economic theory goes out the door when the federal government tries to control natural law.

Just google “Stagflation”.

FWIW, the classic symptoms of Stagflation are almost exactly what we now have.

It is just that the media refuses to attach such a critical lable to Obamanomics.

When you have classic Stagflation you have:

1 - High Inflation
2 - The economic growth rate is slow
3 - Unemployment remains high

Sure sounds familiar, doesn’t it?


31 posted on 01/16/2013 11:39:18 AM PST by Iron Munro (I Miss America, don't you?)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

i think gas cans are expensive because they have to be manufactured with the special “spill proof system” on the nozzle instead of just a regular spout.


32 posted on 01/16/2013 11:39:35 AM PST by naturalborn
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
You can thank the EPA for that.

I've bought a couple of those new, impossible-to-use gas cans. I just remove the whole nozzle assembly and use a funnel when I have to refuel my snowblower. So much for helping the environment.

I still have the old cans for my mower and emergency storage, but I had to buy a new one for the two stroke gas/oil mixture.

33 posted on 01/16/2013 11:41:05 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Choose one: the yellow and black flag of the Tea Party or the white flag of the Republican Party.)
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To: arthurus

Everything I’m buying has gone up in price considerably.

So other than rising prices, I see no inflation.


34 posted on 01/16/2013 11:45:17 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: arthurus

The price of guns and ammo seems to be going up.


35 posted on 01/16/2013 11:47:40 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: naturalborn

The largest US supplier (Blitz) was put out of business by the tort lawyers.


36 posted on 01/16/2013 11:49:55 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Iron Munro

Are you trying to say the OP doesn’t know beans? ;)


37 posted on 01/16/2013 11:54:02 AM PST by Trod Upon (Civilian disarmament is the precursor to democide.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
A 5-gallon gas can at Wal-Mart priced out at $16 dollars yesterday. That’s a bit high for a piece of plastic, don’t you think?M

Blitz, once the biggest cas container nmanufacturer in the USA, has gone out of business because of the EPA regulations that make it impossible to profitably manufacture compliant gas cans at a reasonable price.

The Oklahoma factory has closed putting 117 people out of work.

See:

"Blitz USA manufacturing plant in Miami to close in July"

"A Factory’s Closing Focuses Attention on Tort Reform"

If you can find any old stock Blitz water cans they are basically the same can as their gas cans except for the color and are (were) about 1/3 the price.


38 posted on 01/16/2013 11:57:45 AM PST by Iron Munro (I Miss America, don't you?)
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To: Uncle Miltie

From the article: “It would seem that the inflationary and Keynesian policies followed by the US, Europe, China, and Japan have resulted in an economic and financial environment where bankers are afraid to lend, entrepreneurs are afraid to invest, and where everyone is afraid of the currencies with which they are forced to endure.”


39 posted on 01/16/2013 11:59:47 AM PST by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: KarlInOhio

What the EPA regulation was REALLY about was putting the old can manufacturer out of business and replacing them with a friend of Soros.’


40 posted on 01/16/2013 12:01:02 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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