Skip to comments.Brokaw: Silence On Gun Violence Akin To Failing To Oppose Segregation in 60s
Posted on 01/17/2013 5:02:30 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
Talk about your strained analogies . . . Tom Brokaw has analogized people unwilling support measures aimed at limiting gun violence to those during the 1960s who were unwilling to speak out againt the likes of Bull Connor.
Brokaw made his remarks on today's Morning Joe. While asserting that he favored a "holistic" approach to gun violence, including addressing video games and the coarsening of the culture, Brokaw did remark that "guns are the endgame."
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Brokaw’s idiotic analogy. Ping to Today show list.
Brokaw’s idiotic analogy. Ping to Today show list.
These old commies come up with the most drastic bullsh&. “Republicans want to burn your Mother alive at the stake”. “People who follow the constitution want to bring back slavery”. Unreal!
Mr Brokejaw - Bull Connor was a Democrat.
I thought that's what being against homosexuality was.
I can't keep up with all of the media elite's whack drama antics.
lemme see if i get it...failure to oppress a segment of the population (gun owners) is akin to oppressing a segment of the population (blacks).
is that it?
The media is full of these vermin
the hypocrites they want to make the already too powerful government more powerful and so at the same time the small person have less rights. This is the reason democrats do everything including going on about this statistically nonexistent event , this mass shooting
Jeez, is he still around?
Can’t he just go away?
Gun control was firmly planted in racism and grew from there.
Democrats doing what democrats have always done. Just keeping the slaves in their place.
Ironically the right to own guns for self defense was something the oppressed blacks desired greatly. And it was one of the things they won in their quest for freedom and equality.
Full court press by Morning Joe Stalin and his merry gang of gun grabbers.
I bet Brokaw has armed security protection.
Another old Democrat presstitute who should have been put out to pasture about 20 years ago.
How long has Brokaw been white headed?
The old drunk is now just babbling incoherently.
“Brokaw: Silence On Gun Violence Akin To Failing To Oppose Segregation in 60s”.
He means like how the democRATS fought against desegregation, right? People don’t realize that prior to the 80’s, all of the south and most of the east were democRATS. There were no, or very few republicans, except for the few who fought against segregation. You also remember that the Klan was exclusively democRATS, right? You do know that, don’t you?
I like how Obummer is wrapping himself in Lincoln (republican) and MLK (another republican)garb as he lies his way back as protector of our constitution.
The sheeple will be led to the slaughter by someone waving the Obummer or similar socialist flag......
Didn’t take long to go ‘there’?
I wonder what they compared everything to BEFORE the Civil Rights Movement?
EVERYTHING is compared to the CRM....
Gays in Military
Women in Combat
Same Sex Marriage
Wearing of beards.
Using of beards.
Immigration Control AND lack of same.
At one point or another, each of the above was compared to the “Civil Rights Movement” - as a way to ‘silence’ the antis -—once the opposition stood up to be heard.
K, Tom, here’s your answer to “Gun Violence”:
Quit hiding God from public view.
Quit promoting gangsters as role models.
(as Obama has by making gang signs, and inviting rappers to the White House)
Prosecute gang bangers, thugs, and drug dealers, and enforce the sentences.
(consequences change behavior)
Quit pretending that 55 million abortions don’t cheapen the perception of the value of human life.
Provide true mental health support for those in need.
This includes institutions for those unable to safely function in a free society.)
Bull Conner was a white liberal elite democrat... He was closed minded, a bully, and thought he was above criticism - just like Tom Brokaw is today. In his time Bull Conner was seem as held the 'correct' idea. Just like Brokaw does today. I opposed Bull Conner AT THE TIME and I oppose Brokaw during this time. Bull Conner was part of the dominate group think of his time - Brokaw is too. It never seems to change.
I wonder how many were killed or maimed in traffic accidents yesterday.
I wonder how many were accidentally killed at hospitals yesterday.
So many causes, so little time.
Where does Brokaw live. Does anyone have an address to post, just a city? It’d be useful to start building such public info on politicians and media personalities.
I guess Mr. Bad Dentures didn’t bother to notice all the people being murdered with guns in the city he’s been working in for, what, 30-40 years. Washington had the toughest gun laws and was the murder capital. Yet Tom Brokaw was silent. He must’ve been against the civil rights struggles of the 60’s then.
Wipe the drool off your chin Tom and get back in your rocker.
The proverbial “I know you are but what am I” argument.
From 2008 article:
In a stroke, 52 years of Democratic history vanishes. Disappeared faster than the truth in the Clinton administration. Why would this be? Allow me to sketch in a few facts from those missing 52 years. For that matter, lets add in the facts from the party history before and after those 52 years, since they aren’t mentioned by the Democrats’ National Committee either.
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So what’s missing?
There is no reference to the number of Democratic Party platforms supporting slavery. There were six from 1840 through 1860.
There is no reference to the number of Democratic presidents who owned slaves. There were seven from 1800 through 1861.
There is no reference to the number of Democratic Party platforms that either supported segregation outright or were silent on the subject. There were 20, from 1868 through 1948.
There is no reference to “Jim Crow” as in “Jim Crow laws,” nor is there reference to the role Democrats played in creating them. These were the post-Civil War laws passed enthusiastically by Democrats in that pesky 52-year part of the DNC’s missing years. These laws segregated public schools, public transportation, restaurants, rest rooms and public places in general (everything from water coolers to beaches). The reason Rosa Parks became famous is that she sat in the “whites only” front section of a bus, the “whites only” designation the direct result of Democrats.
There is no reference to the formation of the Ku Klux Klan, which, according to Columbia University historian Eric Foner, became “a military force serving the interests of the Democratic Party.” Nor is there reference to University of North Carolina historian Allen Trelease’s description of the Klan as the “terrorist arm of the Democratic Party.”
There is no reference to the fact Democrats opposed the 13th, 14th and 15th amendments to the Constitution. The 13th banned slavery. The 14th effectively overturned the infamous 1857 Dred Scott decision (made by Democratic pro-slavery Supreme Court justices) by guaranteeing due process and equal protection to former slaves. The 15th gave black Americans the right to vote.
There is no reference to the fact that Democrats opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1866. It was passed by the Republican Congress over the veto of President Andrew Johnson, who had been a Democrat before joining Lincoln’s ticket in 1864. The law was designed to provide blacks with the right to own private property, sign contracts, sue and serve as witnesses in a legal proceeding.
There is no reference to the Democrats’ opposition to the Civil Rights Act of 1875. It was passed by a Republican Congress and signed into law by President Ulysses Grant. The law prohibited racial discrimination in public places and public accommodations.
There is no reference to the Democrats’ 1904 platform, which devotes a section to “Sectional and Racial Agitation,” claiming the GOP’s protests against segregation and the denial of voting rights to blacks sought to “revive the dead and hateful race and sectional animosities in any part of our common country,” which in turn “means confusion, distraction of business, and the reopening of wounds now happily healed.”
There is no reference to four Democratic platforms, 1908-20, that are silent on blacks, segregation, lynching and voting rights as racial problems in the country mount. By contrast the GOP platforms of those years specifically address “Rights of the Negro” (1908), oppose lynching (in 1912, 1920, 1924, 1928) and, as the New Deal kicks in, speak out about the dangers of making blacks “wards of the state.”
There is no reference to the Democratic Convention of 1924, known to history as the “Klanbake.” The 103-ballot convention was held in Madison Square Garden. Hundreds of delegates were members of the Ku Klux Klan, the Klan so powerful that a plank condemning Klan violence was defeated outright. To celebrate, the Klan staged a rally with 10,000 hooded Klansmen in a field in New Jersey directly across the Hudson from the site of the convention. Attended by hundreds of cheering convention delegates, the rally featured burning crosses and calls for violence against African-Americans and Catholics.
There is no reference to the fact that it was Democrats who segregated the federal government, at the direction of President Woodrow Wilson upon taking office in 1913. There \is a reference to the fact that President Harry Truman integrated the military after World War II.
There is reference to the fact that Democrats created the Federal Reserve Board, passed labor and child welfare laws, and created Social Security with Wilson’s New Freedom and FDR’s New Deal. There is no mention that these programs were created as the result of an agreement to ignore segregation and the lynching of blacks. Neither is there a reference to the thousands of local officials, state legislators, state governors, U.S. congressmen and U.S. senators who were elected as supporters of slavery and then segregation between 1800 and 1965. Nor is there reference to the deal with the devil that left segregation and lynching as a way of life in return for election support for three post-Civil War Democratic presidents, Grover Cleveland, Woodrow Wilson and Franklin Roosevelt.
There is no reference that three-fourths of the opposition to the 1964 Civil Rights Bill in the U.S. House came from Democrats, or that 80% of the “nay” vote in the Senate came from Democrats. Certainly there is no reference to the fact that the opposition included future Democratic Senate leader Robert Byrd of West Virginia (a former Klan member) and Tennessee Senator Albert Gore Sr., father of Vice President Al Gore.
Last but certainly not least, there is no reference to the fact that Birmingham, Ala., Public Safety Commissioner Bull Connor, who infamously unleashed dogs and fire hoses on civil rights protestors, was in fact—yes indeed—a member of both the Democratic National Committee and the Ku Klux Klan.
The major charade is to let them get away in addressing ‘gun violence’. It is overall violence (and murder) rates, if anything, that they could conceivably have a point about.
Such violence and murder rates, worldwide, are unfortunately more closely correlated to race than even intelligence is, however. Thus, Latin American and African countries lead the world and Asian countries lag behind even white-dominant ones.
The US currently has over a quarter of its population from the two high-violence races, whereas the UK, for example, has about a fifth of that.
Like educational results, compare race-by-race and there is a striking consistency worldwide, and any differences in violence or murder rates when thus normalized are marginal—regardless of gun laws.
But this is apparently too tough a truth for our side to articulate, and so we continue with this media charade.
So says Bull Connor Brokaw....lol
Again, we see another example of the Left’s version of Goodwin’s law. Goodwin’s law states that as a discussion continues, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1.
It’s the same with Leftists. Any discussion where they are both wrong and have no rational response significantly increases the probability they will accuse others of being a racist.
Brokaw is correct, possibly for the first time in his career. As Obama implicitly recognized when he sent his kids to school with armed protection, as US Senator Dianne Feinstein implicitly recognized when she got her concealed carry permit, and as the rest of us recognize when we put armed guards in or around our military facilities, our banks, our armored cars, and other targets of thugs, guns are the endgame. If we want to limit gun violence, which Brokaw correctly identifies as a worthy goal, the best way is with guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens. The added bonus is that this option is both effective and constitutional, which puts it above Obama's gun-grabbing strategy in two ways.
The Democrat Party has not changed significantly in 90 years or more. This reminds me of their thoroughly disgusting voice vote last year on supporting God and Jerusalem in their platform. God lost, but their corrupt vote counters put through the change they thought would help them win the election.
He’s part of the Colin Powell Blame America First Club.
Tom Brokejaw, accusing your opponents of what you are doing.
WOULD BANNING FIREARMS REDUCE MURDER AND SUICIDE?, Harvard Journal of Law and Public Policy, Volume 30, Number 2, Spring 2007 (pp. 649-694)
The trick you hoplophobes use is to insist on focusing on gun violence alone, as if it exists in a vacuum.
Don't you care about the people who get killed by fists and feet and knives and baseball bats too?
Or is your concern limited strictly to guns and how to subjugate the people who own them?
Liberals really are nuts. Is Brokaw worried about guns, or the people who own guns? I believe he sees gun owners as his political foes.
Hey! Gangs need their obaamaa phones, food stamps, ss disability for being shot, gov-sub housing, welfare, and lotsa guns and ammo... that’s a why they voted for 0... oh yeh... then take their combat to the refuge of the Windy City-to rob each other and fill each other with bullet holes... gsheees!| this whole gun talk is nuts... Wyoming has this gun thing right... All politicians stay away from the law abiding folks with guns..
Play that funky race card, white boy.
I didn’t know he was still above ground.
I thought he died.
Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. — Benjamin Franklin, 1759
Every good communist should know that political power grows out of the barrel of a gun. - Mao Tse Tung
“The measures adopted to restore public order are: First of all, the elimination of the so-called subversive elements... They were elements of disorder and subversion. On the morrow of each conflict I gave the categorical order to confiscate the largest possible number of weapons of every sort and kind. This confiscation, which continues with the utmost energy, has given satisfactory results.” - Benito Mussolini
“All we ask for is registration, just like we do for cars.”
- Senator Charles Schumer
“The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing. Indeed, I would go so far as to say that the supply of arms to the underdogs is a sine qua non for the overthrow of any sovereignty.” - Adolf Hitler
“If I could have banned them all - ‘Mr. and Mrs. America turn in your guns’ - I would have!” - Senator Dianne Feinstein
“I don’t care if you want to hunt, I don’t care if you think it’s your right. I say ‘Sorry.’ it’s 1999. We have had enough as a nation. You are not allowed to own a gun, and if you do own a gun I think you should go to prison.”
- Rosie O’Donnell (At about the time she said this, Rosie engaged the services of a bodyguard who applied for a gun permit.)
Does Brokaw still claim to speak for the people of SD?
It can't be done.
You will never convince an irrational person with rational thought.
It's easier to send the irrational person into complete meltdown by agreeing with their position but doing it in what they perceive is an “irrational” manner.
When someone starts with the gun control simply agree with their position and tell them democrats have been trying to tell people since the end of the Civil War freed slaves shouldn't be allowed to own guns.
As they are then busy trying to defend themselves against being a racist they will then claim no one should own a gun.
Again agree with their position and tell them how great it worked in Nazi Germany.
Considering the left responds better to short sound bites and visual than long winded mental, it's time to put out posters with visual of gun control at work.
Pictures of lynched blacks with GUN CONTRO WORKS.
Pictures of concentration camp Jews with GUN CONTROL WORKS.
It's time for the left to go on the defense.
"We, gun owners, have no problem with good laws, but how do you stop criminals or the person with emotional problems? Gun owners need protection from them too." Looking over the landscape of TV and MSM news the same thype of message is needed for debt, healthcare, size of government, and certainly right to life. Better messages make for better and smaller government.
Tea Party people would win many elections by messaging about poor laws and even worse results from too much government.