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Automatic and semi-automatic may be used interchangeably
Corrections - On The Media (PBS) ^ | January 13, 2013 | Bob Garfield

Posted on 01/17/2013 6:48:15 AM PST by DManA

Unless used to kill our enemies the Eurasians, pop pop pop is ++ungood.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; secondamendment
I heard it on Peoples' Radio so it must be true.
1 posted on 01/17/2013 6:48:18 AM PST by DManA
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To: DManA

Skip ahead to 1:00


2 posted on 01/17/2013 6:49:31 AM PST by DManA
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To: DManA
Adam from NY

'automatic' and 'semi-automatic' are often used by experts interchangeably." -- Bob Garfield I am a range safety officer and a federal firearms instructor for the US air marshals. I will not speak to why you made said assumptions or what motives you have in doing so, But I can tell you that 'Automatic' and 'semi-automatic' are in no way interchangeable.

Jan. 11 2013 11:00 PM


Good comment!!
3 posted on 01/17/2013 6:56:01 AM PST by Eagle of Liberty (Be the Enemy Within the Enemy Within...)
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To: DManA

For leftists, words mean whatever they want them to mean and if they want them to mean something else tomorrow, that’s permissible too.


4 posted on 01/17/2013 6:58:33 AM PST by Graybeard58 (Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.)
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To: DManA

A few weeks back I caught Geraldo Rivera carefully crafting a false image and transforming an “assault rifle” into a full auto machine gun.

He said something along the lines of “With a handgun you can only shoot a few times and then you need to stop and reload. With these automatic killing machines you spray, slap a new clip in and spray some more.”


5 posted on 01/17/2013 7:01:33 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

I don’t own assault rifles but I do own a couple of MSR’s (Modern Sporting Rifles).


6 posted on 01/17/2013 7:03:51 AM PST by Dusty Road
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To: cripplecreek

I heard the same thing out that moron’s mouth. I was yelling at my TV LOL!


7 posted on 01/17/2013 7:05:27 AM PST by halo66
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To: DManA

This is the true disgrace of the media at large.

The thing is that they are destroying their own credibility with each passing day.

They’ll never admit that to themselves because they are too busy pushing an agenda.


8 posted on 01/17/2013 7:06:46 AM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: DManA
Handguns are also interchangeable with phasers.

My smartphone is a tri-corder, and my car is a shuttle craft.

9 posted on 01/17/2013 7:10:42 AM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back The Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Graybeard58
"The Language of the Third Reich" by Victor Klemperer is about how the nazis manipulated the language as a means of manipulating society.

We see the same today in America where words like "Militia" used to conjure images of honor, duty, and patriotism, now are used to label right wingers as dangerous violent criminals.

(Amazon) The Language of the Third Reich


10 posted on 01/17/2013 7:10:56 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Dusty Road

I used to use an “MSR .22” for squirrel hunting. It held 16 rounds.


11 posted on 01/17/2013 7:14:54 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: DManA

Two nights in a row Diane Sawyer had video of a full auto AK47 while talking about assault weapons. Unintentional? Not likely.

Last night she was railing about the ‘high powered’ AR.
She doesn’t know the .223 is at to low end of hunting rounds? Maybe.


12 posted on 01/17/2013 7:16:33 AM PST by Vinnie (A)
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To: Dusty Road

I own lot’s of military assault rifles, the oldest one is an 1859 3-band Enfield. The mass carnage it wraught at places like Antietem and Gettysburg was unbelievable.

Interestingly, all of those “assault rifles” were also “defensive weapons”. The Swiss never attacked anyone, so their select-fire rifles are obviously not assault weapons.

Trying to define some weapons as “offensive” and others as “defensive” is stupid, as it is a matter of intent, not design. Even mace and stun guns are used offensively when that is the intent. In fact, a woman is probably more easily zapped and tossed into a trunk, than threatened into doing so with a gun.


13 posted on 01/17/2013 7:23:12 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: headstamp 2
destroyING????

You mean they still had some left????? I thought they ran out long ago.

Seriously....when ANY national news talking head comes ON, the TV goes OFF. Liars, every one. I can barely still stomach the local news (mostly for the weather forecast).

14 posted on 01/17/2013 7:24:37 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: Eagle of Liberty

In that case, the restrictions of the NFA on ownership of automatic firearms should be lifted.


15 posted on 01/17/2013 7:27:38 AM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: cripplecreek

What’s a clip? /s


16 posted on 01/17/2013 7:31:41 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: DManA
If the terms are to be dictated by ones own agenda, it should be a given that we always correct the dis-constitutionalists that We are speaking of DEFENSE weapons.
17 posted on 01/17/2013 7:37:33 AM PST by whodathunkit
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To: cripplecreek

Thank you for the link to this most important book.


18 posted on 01/17/2013 7:39:26 AM PST by Excellence (9/11 was an act of faith.)
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To: DManA

Seeing as how a semi-auto fires a single round per trigger pull, “semi-auto” and “single shot” can also be used interchangeably.


19 posted on 01/17/2013 7:43:22 AM PST by running_dog_lackey
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To: Excellence

Interesting factoid.

Victor Klemperer was the cousin of Werner Klemperer who played Colonel Klink on Hogan’s Heroes.


20 posted on 01/17/2013 7:47:01 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: DManA

It’s good to know they are interchangeable now...I’ve always wanted an automatic.


21 posted on 01/17/2013 7:52:23 AM PST by SENTINEL (Kneel down to God. Stand up to tyrants. STICK TO YOUR GUNS !)
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To: running_dog_lackey
"Single-shot" is usually used in contrast with "repeating," or "magazine-fed," and is most commonly used with rifles like falling-block Sharps or break-open guns like a H&R Handirifle.

"Single shot" refers to loading each cartridge by hand, one at a time.

22 posted on 01/17/2013 7:55:38 AM PST by Trailerpark Badass (So?)
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To: DManA

So, is Obama shooting off EOs from a fully automatic or semi-auto weapon? Rate of fire suggests his weapon is set on fully automatic, with a belt feed, which means it’s been altered way beyond the original bolt action model he is authorized to use.


23 posted on 01/17/2013 8:02:43 AM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: DManA
To be sure, semiautomatic pistols were referred to, and marketed as "Automatics":

Indeed, the official government nomenclature for the 1911 and 1911A1 is, "Automatic Pistol, Caliber .45, M1911," and "Automatic Pistol, Caliber .45, M1911A1."

Originally, the term "automatic" was simply a shorthand annotation for, "automatic loading." While the terms may have been applied loosely and imprecisely, the function between a semi- and fully automatic firearm is clear. The terminology is simply being used to cloud the issue and agitate the ignorant.

24 posted on 01/17/2013 8:03:18 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: cripplecreek
We are foolish when we play by the rules of Lawyers. In the end this small minded "tactical" thinking will do more harm than good.

Why do we debate ? Are any of us willing to disarm because a poll or an activist judge or a lawyer wins an argument ?

We need to think and act strategically. This is my method.

STICK TO YOUR GUNS

25 posted on 01/17/2013 8:08:48 AM PST by SENTINEL (Kneel down to God. Stand up to tyrants. STICK TO YOUR GUNS !)
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To: DManA
Automatic and semi-automatic may be used interchangeably

Well hell. Don't stop there!

"Nuclear / Chemical Weapons of Mass Terrorism" may be used interchangeably with "Handgun", I suppose. Then you can justify this headline:

OBAMA WANTS TO BAN NUCLEAR / CHEMICAL WEAPONS OF MASS TERRORISM, NRA OPPOSES

26 posted on 01/17/2013 8:22:54 AM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: DManA

This falls in line with anti-gun propaganda.

Josh Sugarmann
Violence Policy Center Director

“Assault weapons... are a new topic. The weapons’ menacing looks, coupled with the public’s confusion over fully-automatic machine guns versus semi-automatic assault weapons — anything that looks like a machine gun is assumed to be a machine gun — can only increase the chance of public support for restrictions on these weapons.”

-Josh Sugarmann, “Assault Weapons: Analysis, New Research and Legislation”, March 1989

“The NRA is right...handgun controls do little to stop criminals from obtaining handguns.”

-Josh Sugarman, former communications director for the Coalition Against Gun Violence


27 posted on 01/17/2013 8:23:27 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name! See new paintings!)
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To: Joe 6-pack

GASP! Nine shots! I think I’m gonna faint!;-D


28 posted on 01/17/2013 8:25:09 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name! See new paintings!)
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To: DManA

Although the M16 I carried in Viet Nam was capable of full auto, I don’t ever remember firing, even in a firefight, more than one round at a time. In auto, you can’t control where the rounds go after the first one, so why waste ammo.


29 posted on 01/17/2013 8:28:12 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Children, pets, and slaves get taken care of. Free Men take care of themselves.)
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To: DTogo
and my car is a shuttle craft.

Return to base! We're under attack.

30 posted on 01/17/2013 8:28:56 AM PST by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: SENTINEL

We don’t need defense. We need offense on multiple fronts storming the democrat beaches from all directions.


31 posted on 01/17/2013 8:50:44 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: DManA

If we let them control the vocabulary, we may as well give up right now.

I for one refuse to do so. I had a conversation with a friend who is a republican last night. She remarked to me that “nobody needs an assault weapon”. I asked her, “what is an assault weapon?”. She described an automatic weapon and was astounded when I explained that such weapons have been so tightly regulated since 1934, that there are very, very few in the hands of the public. I then defined a semi-automatic, and she remarked that her WW2 vet father’s target pistol would come under that definition.

She now gets it. We must not, under any circumstances, allow the leftists to define our vocabulary and the terms to define the freedoms we champion.


32 posted on 01/17/2013 9:48:17 AM PST by Darnright ("I don't trust liberals, I trust conservatives." - Lucius Annaeus Seneca)
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To: Darnright

I had a similar experience with my mother. She was saying semi automatic weapons should be banned, nobody needs one of those things. I said to her that dad had about 10 of them). She looked at me like I was insane. I said what do you think he hunted with all those years.


33 posted on 01/17/2013 9:56:05 AM PST by DManA
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To: DManA

>I said to her that dad had about 10 of them). She looked at me like I was insane. I said what do you think he hunted with all those years.<

The leftists bank on this kind of mistake. People do not understand the huge lie the gun grabbers are putting forward.


34 posted on 01/17/2013 12:25:29 PM PST by Darnright ("I don't trust liberals, I trust conservatives." - Lucius Annaeus Seneca)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Colt automatic pistol (1907) was advertised “8 shots in 1 3/5 seconds.”

I can only imagine what an automatic assault rifle could do! Probably like 80 shots a second? No wonder they are so dangerous—a literal wall of lead. Oh, the humanity!


35 posted on 01/17/2013 1:00:46 PM PST by antidisestablishment (Our people perish through lack of wisdom, but they are content in their ignorance.)
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