but the new EPA tax on bullets will be $1000 for each one-- What could be fairer... 
to save the children?
Posted on 01/17/2013 7:54:00 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
The National Rifle Association didn't disagree with everything in President Obama's proposal today to cut back on escalating gun violence, the group's president David Keene told CBS News Senior White House Correspondent Bill Plante today, but with coming talks of reform, he said there are "legitimate" fears on the horizon for law-abiding gun owners.
One of his fears: that a universal background check for anyone purchasing a firearm - the first of Mr. Obama's suggestions today - would lead to a national tracking registry of gun owners. That, in turn, Keene said, could give way to "forced buybacks," or, door-to-door confiscation of specific weapons by the government.
"In other words, 'I have a record that you have a shotgun, and you're going to sell it to the government, or else,'" Keene said. "That's the equivalent of confiscation."
Keene said when others suggest harboring such a concern is simply "being paranoid," "you point to senators and governors who want to do exactly that," he said. "The governor of Illinois said they want to knock on doors and confiscate guns. That's not an irrational fear."
Another point of disagreement was Mr. Obama's call to reinstate and strengthen the assault weapons ban. Keene indicated that a hammer, one of the deadliest weapons in recent years, has been more to blame for rising murder tolls in the United States than semiautomatic weapons...
(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...
Registry always leads to confiscation.
And New York just signed into law an immediate registry.
And the law reads that anyone possessing a gun is a criminal.
The language is such that it makes possession a crime.
As for the exemptions, they’re only for “The Kings Men”.
Another topic, but hugely important to this one:
Where are all our side, when the topic is American jobs?
We complain and send jobs overseas, then seem surprised when the Dems, win elections.
BUY AMERICAN. Vote Republican.
Now.
but the new EPA tax on bullets will be $1000 for each one-- What could be fairer... to save the children?
Hopefully, that will be the end of Pinko Cuomo's political career.
I have a hammer with a black fiber glass handle, black rubberized hand grip and a black head plus it weighs 20 oz.
It is pretty scary looking compared to my other hammers. Could it be considered an ASSAULT HAMMER?
The American Liberal has the proven inability to keep up the fight in the face of lots of bodies coming back in caskets. I fear that may ultimately be the lesson that corrects their benightedness.
With any luck.
But recall that it was New York that brought us Boss Tweed and Tammany Hall politics.
Getting tired of having to repeat myself...
I will not comply.
Seriously. No more. Period. End of story.
Now.
Okay!
Your nail pouch cannot hold more than 10.
So, let the NRA start the revolution .........
What escalating gun violence? Violent crime rates have, for the most part, been dropping for nearly a generation.
Mass shootings are the media's new shark attacks.
Don't be silly.
It's still a single-shot hammer.
Now THIS is an assault hammer, with a high-capacity magazine:
Unlikely. The morons who live in NY knew what his views on firearms were when they voted for him. They voted for him because the APPROVE of what he thinks, not because they disagree with him. Their elected representatives are as wretched a hive of vile freedom hating tyrant wanabes as you'll ever find. AND NOT ONE OF THEM WAS ELECTED BY ACCIDENT. They reflect the attitudes of the majority of New Yorkers.
How about cracking down on bicycles?
http://trafficsafety.org/safety/sharing/bike/bike-facts/bike-injuries-fatalities
Even better! A Dewalt Nail Rifle (battery operated)
http://nesaranews.blogspot.com/2012/06/new-nail-gun-made-by-dewalt.html
It was for the British after they arrived at Lexington & Concord.
If I hear a knock on the door and “I’m here to take your guns!” whom ever it is will be met with armed resistance.
Changing tagline
Hopefully it won’t come to it.
Be the hunter, not the hunted, wolf.
I stand with you and I will not comply, I will keep my GUNs.
MOLON LABE
come and get them if you can
Obama care will be the more accurate registry of who owns or keeps firearms.
“When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzVKQCnLJns
“We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.” - Barack Obama
TREASON - in real-time, pre-meditated, in-your-face, unquestioned, ABETTED, unchecked, continuous, ongoing...
Representation checking?...questioning? ZERO
—That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
Only one thing to say... leave the blue states behind and move to where you can still live like an american.. I am
Exactly Trav!
Conservatives and supporters of the 2nd amendment the Obama regime is using the 2nd amendment argument to blame gun owners for its inability to deal with the hundreds of gangland murders and shootings commited in areas under their solid control using illegally obtained firearms.
Their solution to those inner city problems is to remove those rights provided by the constitution to have and bear arms from all US citizens.
None of those 23 so called “reforms” and unconstitutional efforts being edicted by who some call an emporer do not deal with the following issues briefly outlined below .
They won’t because instead of creating a uniformly democratic society where every citizen has an equal voice no matter what their race or ethnicity.
Obama’s policies have grouped races and ethnic groups gerrymandering congressional districts where much of this criminal activity occurs. GOPES {goverment of the people (republican party) elites} see this issue as a 3rd rail because most of it is black on black or illegal vs illegal (Mexican) activity .
GOPES are also afraid to say that policy also increased racial tension which is manifested in in increased attacks some of which have resulted in deaths.But again GOPES accept this because of the influence of mainline socialist media which would be accusing them of “racism” if they dare to question it.
As stated from the outset the purpose of all this hype on guns is to keep the right and conservatives focused on what the Demo-Coms describe as issues through their propaganda arm known as the MSM (mainline socialist media) not on the problems created by the “Libs” on their road of good intentions or the socialist/fascists/communists successors to comtrol over todays Democrat party; Which is the budget costs and where our money is going.
Not one word will address or offer a solution about the hundreds of gangland murders and shootings using illegaly obtained mostly handguns and revolvers .Not “assault weapons” which are really single shot per trigger pull rifles. Used for small game hunting or target practice. That are made to look like their military counterpart. which by the way since Viet Nam and a DOD decision are small caliber and designed to wound not necessarilly kill which is why they are automatic and fire many rounds once the trigger is in the pulled position. .
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2977901/posts NY Post pix of shooter using handgun
Obama certainly can’t critique a system created by his ilk .Ignored in his 23 edicts is that when once caught, perps get set free with lenient sentencing from “liberal” judges or sob sister plea bargain prosecution promoted by the MSM,The New York Times CNN, NBC and,ABC. There’s certainly no criticism of “no snitch” mentality partcularly in areas where these shootings are rampant.
It would be nice at these rallys if speakers would point these facts out to Obamas adoring public.
Another poster stated that door to door confiscation would likely never happen.
According to that poster, all they would have to do is freeze your bank accounts, stop your O-care, etc. to coerce people into turning in their weapons.
“But they can’t do that! That would be illegal!”
Look at all the crap they’re already doing that’s illegal.
If the rumors about how B of A (which some affectionately refer to as Bank of Aholes) is treating gun folk are true, why would anyone think such action from our government would be impossible on a nationwide level?
All it would take is a stroke of a pen after enough people in congress push it forward to get along or because “something should be done. For the children.”
I have no fears of door to door confiscation.
I fear all the other things they can do to make life miserable without even rising from their chairs.
Illinois Democrats: Limit guns in state, Chicago
“Hopefully, that will be the end of Pinko Cuomo’s political career...”
You’re kidding, right?
In the blue states, it will garner him accolades. If the law holds without successful challenges against it, it puts him up front for the ‘rat nomination for president in 2016 — as a man “who gets things done”...
HELP please!
I don’t know how to post a topic here, and would make a mess of it, soooooooo....
I was wondering if you could help get the word out about the NY Gun Law protest planned for this Saturday, the 19th, 12 noon, NY State Capitol Building, State St., Albany NY.
Short notice, I admit, but then we had also little notice of the new law that got crammed down our throats. Turns out the “law” is worse than a lot of people think. Big surprise there.
Unfortunately we don’t seem to have the penchant for organizing last minute protests as do the opposite camp, but lets hope we can get a good crowd!
There is more info below. We need the word to go out fast.
Guns Across America New York
Organizer, Joanna’s email address: k9sheps@yahoo.com
http://www.facebook.com/GunsAcrossAmericaNewYork
PARKING, MEETING PLACE, AND SPEAKER INFO:
Parking:
There is a lot of on street parking all around the capitol, and there are several parking garages and small lots within walking distance of the capitol building.
Meeting Place:
The organizer of this event will be positioned in front of the capitol building in view of the stairs. This is a good place to meet as we can spread up and around the capitol building as our numbers increase.
Thank you!
If the US sets up a gun tracking system they should get the people who setup the Canadian system /Eyeball bulging sarcasm.
[[NRA president: Door-to-door gun confiscation a “legitimate fear”]]
An other fear si that millions of NRA mebers who faithfulyl sent in their ‘dues’ every year won’t have anyone fro mthe NRA to effectually represent htem in NY when cuomo ILLEGALLY violates their second amendment rights-
Oh wait- that fear has already been realized- Psssst- NRA- Ads aren’t an effect defense of hte second amendment- organizing your members and convincing htem to withhold their state taxes because the governor fails to do the job he was hired to do IS an effective means- threatenign the gov witrh removal from office for abuse of power- and takign legal action agaisnt him personally IS an effective means- Wher’s al lthem oney goign to NRA? Yuo don’t have enough to hire competent lawyers to stop the NY clown? Take your ads and stuff them-
Thank You!
To All:
I hope that you tough guy “molon labe” posters are also taking the time to act politically. If you haven’t bothered to email your senators and representatives at the federal and state level, along with your state governor, then you are part of the problem.
Every time the White House, Congress, the Media, or any one else mentions “Assault Weapons”, they should immediately be corrected. These are semi-auto “Defense Weapons”, the closest we can get to the Military version to defend our self.
Every time the White House, Congress, the Media, or any one else mentions “Assault Weapons”, they should immediately be corrected. These are semi-auto “Defense Weapons”, the closest we can get to the Military version to defend our freedom
Confucius say man who take gun take bullet
Ah, yes...who can forget Carmine DiSapio?
in 1814 we took a little trip, along with colonel jackson down the mighty mississip- we took al ong soem bacon and we took along some beans, and we coaxed the bloody british in a town called new orleans-
we fired our guns till the barrels melted down, so we grabbed an alligator and fought another round, we filled his head with canon balls and poweder in behind, and when wee lit the pwoeder off he nearly lost his mind-
They ran through the briars and they ran through the brambles, and they ran through the bushes where a rabbit couldn’t go, they ran so fast that the hounds couldn’t catch them, on tdown hte mississippi to the gulf of mexico
Old somg I remember-
[[move to where you can still live like an american]]
Where? In Brazil maybe? the Amazon? The right to live as a free American was gioven up long long ago here in America in all states- (soem peopel in isolate areas that are practically untouched by modern life still live free- but they are, by law, criminals thanks to many many many intrusive uconstitutional laws beign passed in their state-
but I do know what you mean- move to a state where it isn’t so blue- problem is that more andm ore states are turnign blue- even the red states aren’t strogn red states in soem states nowadays any longer- Hopefully we have a few stronmgly red states like texas that will remain true to the peopel and put citizens first and not government and beurocracy
INteresting connection between him and Ed Koch.
DiSapio was a bit before my time, I’m 1970’s vintage.
[[blame gun owners for its inability to deal with the hundreds of gangland murders and shootings ]]
they don’t actually have a problem with thsoe mruders, they simpyl don’t do anythign abotu them- they know who these maggots are, yet they refuse to arrest them for crimes they KNOW these maggots have committed- and hte police spend WAY too much time ‘gatherign intel’ and not nearly enough time arresting known criminals- I’m under the impressio nthat our gov actually lieks the high murder rate because it means less welfare checks, more moeny for gov to spend- and it’s a form of ‘population control’ that the govenrment eanted to enstate for a logn time now (even goign so far as attemptign sterilization of ‘mental people’ i nyears past) and since hte gov can’t get away with population control without the public complaining, they allow gangs to do the job for them- Even goign so far as to supply ASSAULT rifles to them
[[If the US sets up a gun tracking system]]
they have one, it’s called fast and furious- it worked marvelously- justl iek ALL government run enterprises do
Aye Bendy, Molon Labe!
Be Ever Vigilant,
Blackie
I hate to say this, but I tend to agree. When push comes to shove about 90% of American gun owners, in the face of assault teams coming for their guns, will roll over and show their bellies, hand in their guns and whimper: Ba-a-a-a, please don't hurt me or my family!
Want proof? Look at post Katrina New Orleans when Mayor Nagin announced exactly that -- out and out gun confiscations. Everybody else gasped and we waited for the RAGIN' CAJUNS to open fire. And we waited and we waited and ... nothing. They rolled over and crawled.
Still, remember the numbers. Say, (just for the round numbers) there are 100 MILLION gun owners holding on to an average of 300 million lawfully owned firearms and 90% turn them in. That still leaves 10 MILLION hard core patriots, many of whom will be former military going all the way back to Korea (the WWII vets are almost all gone) and many many with serious combat time under their belts. That's not something you just mop up with the local cops, even their SWAT teams. That's Civil War. Most folks I know with those experiences say it like this: "I came into this world kicking and screaming and covered with blood. I have no problem going out the same way...."
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