Posted on 01/17/2013 8:39:31 AM PST by Kaslin
Appearing on The O'Reilly Factor last night, Florida Senator Marco Rubio said President Obama "doesn't have the guts" to admit that he doesn't believe in the Second Amendment and that his new push for gun control is something he's been wanting to do for his entire political career.
“I actually believe the president doesn’t have the guts to admit he doesn’t believe in the Second Amendment although he states that he is. The Second Amendment is in the Constitution. I didn’t write the Constitution, neither did you, neither did he. If he doesn’t want the Second Amendment to be in the Constitution or if he wants to reform the Second Amendment then have the guts to admit that.”
Marco Rubio:The President Doesn't Have the Guts To Admit He Doesn't Believe in 2nd Amendment
Over to you, Jake Tapper.
This is not the first incident of horrific gun violence of your four years, where have you been?"
Jake Tapper to Obama: This isn't your first gun massacre "Where've you been?"
“Well, Marco Rubio isn’t a believer in immigration laws that are and have been on the books in this country a long long time, either.”
Worth repeating.
“I don’t understand all the vitriol being aimed at Florida Senator Marco Rubio over his views on immigration.”
Move to California, which used to be part of America.
Then you’ll figure it out.
“’send them all back where they came from’ is mere bravado, not a rational policy”
Evidently Dwight Eisenhower felt otherwise seeing as he did exactly that when he was President.
Operation Wetback.
Today, merely hearing the name of Ike’s program makes the weaklings populating the GOP pee down their legs in fear as they wail “it can’t be done! We have to let them stay!”.
Move to California, which used to be part of America.
Then you’ll figure it out.
Californians elected politicians who pandered to Hispanics and the federal government refused to act to secure the border. Now, that beautiful state is a social and economic mess with a loopy leftist recently elected as it's governor. The time to stop massive illegal immigration - specifically from poverty-stricken Mexico - has long since passed. Today, with 12 million illegal immigrants living in the U.S. the best we can do is to, finally, secure the border with Mexico, Rubio's first step in his plan, then try to manage the illegal population by bringing them into the legal immigration system and giving those who demonstrate a willingness to be productive citizens the chance for earned citizenship over a five-to-ten year period. That may not be a perfect solution but it is a start and to see conservatives rip Senator Rubio as if he wanted to just hand out U.S. citizenship to anyone who sneaks over the border is unfair and indicates a refusal to deal with reality and just criticize and complain, instead.
Today, merely hearing the name of Ike’s program makes the weaklings populating the GOP pee down their legs in fear as they wail “it can’t be done! We have to let them stay!”.
'Operation Wetback' was begun in 1954 - 59 years ago - when America was a different country. It probably violated some human rights and more importantly, did not stop the flow of Mexicans illegally entering the U.S. Frankly, I wish it had worked, but it did not and could not be done today. The illegal immigrant population has increased by 400% since then and native-born Americans, while wary of the negative ramifications of this huge influx of mostly poor, uneducated, non-assimilated people on American culture and it's economy, would not support politicians that simply cried "send 'em all back where they came from!" - as if that were possible, which it obviously is not, even if the U.S. were a police state, which it isn't...yet (ask me again in 4 more years).
When it comes to addressing illegal immigration, the squeamishness of today's Republican politicians is well-known and much of that stems from the Democrat's successful attempts to use emotion and accuse Republicans of 'racism' for simply stating the obvious; that illegal immigration, mainly from Mexico, is a drag on our economy, stretches our resources and in some cases, endangers American citizens. Senator Marco Rubio went on national TV and presented a reasonable plan to deal with the illegal immigration issue when few Republicans will do more than mutter about it. That plan began with seriously securing the U.S.-Mexico border, which indicates that Rubio understands the problem and isn't just grandstanding or trying to pander to Hispanics. His plan may not be the best there is but at least Rubio has made a serious proposal. To see fellow conservatives bash him for that is disappointing.
Rubio has positioned himself as an Hispanic first and American second.
He scuttled attempts by Florida Republicans to address illegal immigration when he was in the Florida legislature. He revealed what he’s about, and his smooth speeches won’t cover it over.
We already had to battle GW Bush’s amnesty idiocy.
We don’t need to repeat it with Rubio.
Sorry, I don’t share your “we can’t do that, let’s just give up” mentality.
“and native-born Americans, while wary of the negative ramifications of this huge influx of mostly poor, uneducated, non-assimilated people on American culture and it’s economy, would not support politicians that simply cried “send ‘em all back where they came from!” “
We can see that you wouldn’t.
Those 12 million illegals are not only in California and Texas but are scattered all over the country and cannot simply be 'rounded up' like Japanese-Americans were in WWII. To assume that is possible is to kid yourself. We're paying the price for decades of the government - including California and Texas - turning a blind eye to illegal immigration and allowing the U.S. Mexican border to be porous while millions of Mexican nationals and others, some with criminal backgrounds, sneaked across and settled into the barrios of Los Angeles and elsewhere, with no need to learn English and little fear of being found and deported because no one was looking for them and in some U.S. cities, 6 in California, alone, including Los Angeles and San Francisco, police cannot even arrest an illegal alien for deportation purposes unless they have already committed a crime. That kind of lunacy is how we got to the sorry pass we're in today, with 12 million illegal aliens to deal with. I'm not happy about it but Senator Rubio offers the outline of a sensible plan - starting with securing the border - to deal with this huge problem that snarky comments and feel-good slogans won't solve.
” ‘rounded up’ like Japanese-Americans were in WWII.”
Good grief. Is that what you amnesty supporters are resorting to now? Is that what you think Eisenhower was doing with Operation Wetback?
I guess I shouldn’t be surprised that your rhetoric would sound like leftwing criticism of America because the amnesty crowd routinely invokes racism and xenophobia to try to deflect all discussion of the D Word, Deportation.
The fact is that asset forfeiture would induce millions of foreign nationals squatting in the US to go home on their own. No Internment Camps, No Boxcars to Dachau, none of the usual horrors that drama queen amnesty pushers wail about.
If you’re living here illegally, we can seize your stuff.
So you sell it and go back to your home country, the one that you lived in before you decided that laws are just a bother and you could invite yourself to live permanently in the United States if you felt like it.
But before they leave, I do hope that all of these citizens of foreign lands hold a big party for you and Rubio and Jeb and all of the other enablers.
They owe you, for without enablers the laws that they break on a daily basis might be enforced and they would have had to return to their home countries long ago. But thanks to enablers they can stay and get all kinds of free stuff courtesy of unwitting American citizens. Who says America isn’t the greatest?!
It's nothing new that some parochial Freepers refuse to face reality on this issue and resort to issuing snarky insults and ridiculous accusations when ranting is so much easier. I've stated realities while you chose to chase fantasies of deporting 12 million illegal aliens as if that were just a walk in the park if only we had the guts to do it. This kind of intransigent refusal to face reality and, instead, substitute insults, slogans, posturing and simplistic responses to a complicated problem is why the illegal immigration issue never gets solved but the illegals keep coming, by the thousands.
Rubio has a plausible plan and all his detractors can do is call him names or instantly label any plan to deal with illegal immigration as 'amnesty', whether it comes close to that, or not. I'm sure a carefully nurtured belligerent attitude toward any mention of anything short of instant deportation for all illegals is quite comforting to those who substitute pointless insults for reasoned discussion of a thorny problem facing our nation. That being the case, flail away if you wish but I'm done arguing with insular thinking that is, ultimately, futile for all concerned as we are just talking past each other and going nowhere. Well, I'm going somewhere - to more interesting threads. Bye.
” prop up your weak case for mass deportation of 12 million illegal aliens,”
For one thing independent studies by investment houses for the purpose selling to the illegal alien market calculate the number of illegals squatting in the US to be in excess of 30 million
The 12 million figure is a phony number perpetuated by political hacks seeking to minimize the size of the problem. That number has remained “12 million” for over 20 years.
Deporting illegals is only “a weak case” to a privileged class who live far away from the impact of mass illegal immigration.
You know, like some Connecticut stiff living far from the problem pontificating to those of us who live in the middle of it about what is and what is not possible.
I’ll say this, I much prefer Mexicans to northeast Republican Party hacks- the Mexicans won’t whore out their own country.
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