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Panetta: People Don’t ‘Need’ Assault Rifles
PJ Media ^ | 1-17-2013 | Rick Moran

Posted on 01/17/2013 1:34:01 PM PST by Sir Napsalot

Defense Secretary Leon Panetta told troops at a military base in Italy that only soldiers needed assault weapons.

From Reuters:

Asked by a soldier what President Barack Obama would do to protect school children from gun violence without infringing Americans’ right to own guns, Panetta said action was needed after the attack on a Connecticut school in December in which a gunman killed 20 children and six adults.

He told members of the 173rd Airborne Brigade Combat Team at Vicenza that there were areas where steps could be taken,

“I mean who the hell needs armor-piercing bullets except you guys in battle?”

In the aftermath of the Connecticut shooting – the latest mass killing in the United States on a list that includes Columbine in 1999 and Virginia Tech in 2007 – Obama launched the biggest gun-control push in generations.

He asked Congress on Wednesday to approve an assault weapons ban and background checks for all gun buyers.

Panetta, who is on a week-long trip to Europe, was President Bill Clinton’s chief of staff when the United States banned the sale of assault weapons in the 1990s.

“Unfortunately that ban went out of effect,” he said.

He added that he was an enthusiastic hunter.

“I’ve been duck hunting since I was 10-years-old. I love to hunt and I love to be able to share that joy with my kids. But for the life of me, I don’t know why the hell people have to have an assault weapon.”

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A good question, who the hell needs armor-piercing bullets from ordinary citizens?

“Germans who wish to use firearms should join the SS or the SA– ordinary citizens don’t need guns, as their having guns doesn’t serve the State.” –Heinrich Himmler

Ghost of a past we don't want repeats. Sent chills to my being.

1 posted on 01/17/2013 1:34:04 PM PST by Sir Napsalot
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To: Sir Napsalot

We don’t “need” a pResident like Br0nc0. (Or a War Secretary to lecture us.)


2 posted on 01/17/2013 1:35:58 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Sir Napsalot

Panetta’s own SON is a Navy intel guy:

Would you trust the word of a guy who let his son’s co-workers DIE..?


3 posted on 01/17/2013 1:36:37 PM PST by gaijin
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To: Sir Napsalot
"..who the hell needs armor-piercing bullets from ordinary citizens?"

Rioting SWAT teams?

4 posted on 01/17/2013 1:37:23 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Sir Napsalot

He’s read the Declaration of Independence and understands the Second Amendment.

He is one of the oppressors disarming the patriots who would remove the oppressors by force. He knows this is not about hunting or “the children”.


5 posted on 01/17/2013 1:38:09 PM PST by DBrow
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To: Sir Napsalot

Aren’t armor piercing bullets already banned for the general public? H.R.3132 became Public law on 8/28/1986 Law No: 99-408


6 posted on 01/17/2013 1:38:40 PM PST by frogjerk (Obama Claus is coming to town!)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Only Mexican drug cartel members need them...


7 posted on 01/17/2013 1:39:26 PM PST by rfp1234 (Arguing with a liberal is like playing chess with a pigeon.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Seizing weapons and ammunition was the prelude to the Revoltionary War.


8 posted on 01/17/2013 1:39:55 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Sir Napsalot
Hey, Leon....It's a Bill of RIGHTS. Not a Bill of Needs.

Douche

9 posted on 01/17/2013 1:40:21 PM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Sir Napsalot

UNLESS you’re being assaulted, pinheadda.


10 posted on 01/17/2013 1:41:52 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Taking away assault guns is proof in itself that people need assault guns.


11 posted on 01/17/2013 1:42:21 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (Better safe than sorry.)
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To: Sir Napsalot
Says the pansy SecDef who insists that any soldiers in his vicinity be unarmed.
12 posted on 01/17/2013 1:42:36 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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To: Sir Napsalot
I would like to ask Panetta if he has any information regarding Fast & Furious...under oath (as if an oath matters to a democRAT/socialist/liberal).

5.56mm

13 posted on 01/17/2013 1:43:16 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: Sir Napsalot

He’s right. They don’t need them but they want them and the point is that banning them is either just a symbolic act or just the beginning.


14 posted on 01/17/2013 1:43:41 PM PST by bkepley
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To: Sir Napsalot

needs?

nobody needs a government that runs massive deficits, funds abortion, Solyndra and gives foreign aid to our enemies either.


15 posted on 01/17/2013 1:43:49 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: frogjerk

Define armor piercing.


16 posted on 01/17/2013 1:43:58 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Sir Napsalot

Pan Pizza NEEDS to get a different job.


17 posted on 01/17/2013 1:44:00 PM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Since when is there a needs test for Bill of Rights protection?


18 posted on 01/17/2013 1:44:17 PM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Why should a sec of def have an opinion that matters on domestic policy?

And besides, if i was a politician like him, i would worry more about a scoped 308 waaaay more than some silly assault rifle.


19 posted on 01/17/2013 1:46:04 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

“I’ve been duck hunting since I was 10-years-old...”

Don’t Duck Hunters use the ultimate assault weapon: a semi-auto shotgun?


20 posted on 01/17/2013 1:46:11 PM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Panetta’s statements effectively deny the purpose of the unorganized militia and the fundamental purpose of the Second Amendment. Any person who denies the fundamental purpose of the Second amendment is unfit to serve as an officer of the Federal, State, or local governments where an oath to protect and defend the Constitution is required. Panetta should resign from office or be removed from office by the U.S. Congresx for breaching his oath of office.


21 posted on 01/17/2013 1:47:00 PM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: Sir Napsalot

Nobody but you is even talking about AP ammo which is already illegal for civilians dumbass.


22 posted on 01/17/2013 1:47:34 PM PST by RC one (.From My Cold Dead Hands.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

“Who needs armor-piercing bullets ...”.

Who the hell is this schmuck to tell me what I need?


23 posted on 01/17/2013 1:47:51 PM PST by plain talk
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To: Sir Napsalot

Who needs an assault rifle??

Anne Franks family did.


24 posted on 01/17/2013 1:48:03 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

1. “Assault Weapons” have been illegal since 1934.

2. The 2nd Amendment was adopted to protect citizens (us peasants who don’t “need” assault weapons) from the government (the guys who actually have the warp 9 killing weapons).


25 posted on 01/17/2013 1:48:09 PM PST by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Sir Napsalot

We don’t need “Assault Rifles”any more then we need Paneta as Secretary of Defence.

Thank GOD,this clown is leaving soon.

Anyway Civilians can’t own “Assault Rifles”Unless they are given to us by Obombers Attorney General Eric Holder.

That was Obombers first bite at the Second Amendment and it cost the lives of thousands of Mexican citizen’s.


26 posted on 01/17/2013 1:48:27 PM PST by puppypusher (The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: rfp1234

Only Mexican drug cartel members need them...

They’re the only ones who will be having the assault rifles, that is, except for every criminal in the United States. We need to rid oursleves of these enslaving government officials who scoff at our constitution and disrespect our history.


27 posted on 01/17/2013 1:48:40 PM PST by Bitsy
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To: plain talk

“Who the hell is this schmuck to tell me what I need?”

He is Jerald Nadler’s friend.


28 posted on 01/17/2013 1:49:33 PM PST by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Who said the government gets to decide what I need?

And

Who said that the second amendment was about what I need anyway?

Do I need free speech?
Do I need property?
Do I need to be able to travel freely?
Do I need to be able to worship according to my choice?

Need - really Panetta?


29 posted on 01/17/2013 1:51:14 PM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Panetta is too close to the forest to see the trees.


30 posted on 01/17/2013 1:51:29 PM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: Sir Napsalot

So the Democrat is saying “People Don’t ‘Need’ Assault Rifles” (What’s that!?), and turns the conversation from whatever an “Assault Rifle” is to “who the Hell needs armor-piercing bullets from ordinary citizens?”

By switching subjects quickly he spins some heads, and causes them to agree with him (Head nodding) rather than discuss the former topic much less the latter topic.

Old trick of the manipulative Left.


31 posted on 01/17/2013 1:51:29 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

I got a lot of crap I dont need. Panetta is on page one of the short list.


32 posted on 01/17/2013 1:51:38 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: Sacajaweau
Seizing weapons and ammunition was the prelude to the Revoltionary War.

... was the catalyst for the first shot.

33 posted on 01/17/2013 1:53:00 PM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: Sir Napsalot
Statement: "Panetta: People Don’t ‘Need’ Assault Rifles"

Response: In the sense of "Need" true enough at this time in history. However, in terms of the right to own one an erroneous and misleading statement:

34 posted on 01/17/2013 1:53:00 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Sir Napsalot

“I’ve been duck hunting since I was 10-years-old. I love to hunt”

That’s the point, Lil Caesar intends to say who’s a duck and who isn’t.


35 posted on 01/17/2013 1:53:12 PM PST by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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To: Sir Napsalot

...SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED...how hard is that, Lenny?


36 posted on 01/17/2013 1:53:44 PM PST by subterfuge (CBS NBC ABC FOX AP-- all no different than Pravda.)
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To: bkepley

“banning them is either just a symbolic act or just the beginning.”

On the other side, buying them all up is symbolic, or the beginning ...


37 posted on 01/17/2013 1:53:55 PM PST by Scrambler Bob ( Concerning bo -- that refers to the president. If I capitalize it, I mean the dog.)
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To: frogjerk

>> Aren’t armor piercing bullets already banned for the general public? H.R.3132 became Public law on 8/28/1986 Law No: 99-408

“Sort of.”

The legality of so-called armor-piercing bullets is actually a fascinating subject; I got interested and googled a little on the topic yesterday.

Here’s a couple links to get you started: http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcgvcopk.html
http://gunwalker.com/5.7x28mm/armorpiercing.html

...and there’s lots more on the interwebz.


38 posted on 01/17/2013 1:54:05 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: frogjerk

Hey Leon, where can I get some depleted uranium rounds for my
“assault rifle”?
,


39 posted on 01/17/2013 1:55:27 PM PST by Ed Condon (Give 'em a heading, an altitude, and a reason.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

The response should be that the 2nd amendment is not about hunting. period no further comment

The next question should be is why do want to prevent me from having an ‘assualt weapon’ (whatever that is)?

The idea would be to force them to justify taking gun rights away and not discuss why I want to own guns.

The supposed reasons for taking guns away is not borne out by statistical data, in fact it is wuite the opposite. So therefore, why do they want to ban assual weapons??


40 posted on 01/17/2013 1:55:42 PM PST by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.)
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To: Bryan24

How old do you have to be to be a member of the NRA? Maybe Republicans should have a press conference and have kids from the NRA there to explain the second amendment to the MSM.


41 posted on 01/17/2013 1:56:04 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (I own a weapon to protect my family from those wanting to take that weapon away.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Beware a government that seeks to ban the weapons THEY fear the most.


42 posted on 01/17/2013 2:00:00 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: Sir Napsalot

And Rosa Parks doesn’t have to sit in the front of the bus.


43 posted on 01/17/2013 2:00:55 PM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: Sir Napsalot

This means banning ammo for and thus rendering useless all military and civilian-version stuff like the AR-15, SKS-56, de-miled AKA-47, TT-33, M-1, M-14, Enfield rifle, Moison Nagant, 30.06, the list is endless. Who needs a gun ban when you can ban ammo and ammo components (if you haven’t figured this out yet, the LibTards are going after ammo and components as well)


44 posted on 01/17/2013 2:01:13 PM PST by pabianice (washington, dc ..)
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To: Sir Napsalot

The military generally are under the command of the commander in chief. Political issues are not discussed and discouraged.

However, they are taught to only obey a lawful order.

So what is the point in giving the troops a lesson on gun control? What is the ulterior motive?

Just a thought.

bobo

bobo


45 posted on 01/17/2013 2:04:48 PM PST by bobo1 (the KDE plasma desktop is awesome!)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Panetta’s Communist background:

- - - ——— - - -

“Leon Panetta’s Communist Ties

Posted by Dave Blount at June 15, 2011 10:24 AM

Barack Hussein Obama, protégé of Frank Marshall Davis and Bill Ayers, isn’t the only member of the current misadministration with communist ties. Look what Accuracy in Media has learned about current CIA director and Secretary of Defense nominee Leon Panetta:
The evidence shows that Panetta had a close and personal relationship with a member of the Communist Party by the name of Hugh DeLacy, whose record included meeting with communist espionage agents.

Still more disturbing is the evidence they did not find:
[W]e find no evidence that the Panetta-DeLacy relationship was ever examined by the FBI or the Senate when Panetta was being considered and confirmed for the post of CIA Director. The major media have been even more derelict, content to cover the Panetta hearings for Secretary of Defense in a cursory manner and then turn their attention back to something that is easier and more fun to cover and which is sure to attract interest — [Anthony] Weiner.

Nestled in a political establishment that is friendly toward our communist enemies and shrieks “McCarthyism!!!” at anyone who isn’t, Panetta didn’t have to try very hard to keep the relationship from going public.
Back in 1983 he inserted a tribute into the Congressional Record, recognizing DeLacy and his wife Dorothy, another communist, for their commitment to “social justice” and resisting “the dark forces of McCarthyism.” The latter strongly indicates that Panetta was aware of their involvement in the communist cause and that not only did it not matter to him, it was evidence of their courage and bravery. …
Trevor Loudon writes, “The couple, Hugh DeLacy and his wife Dorothy Baskin DeLacy, both had long histories with the Communist Party USA and were very active in the Santa Cruz ‘progressive’ movement that had helped nurture Congressman Panetta’s career. Phrases like ‘social justice’ and ‘dark forces of McCarthyism’ rolled from Rep. Panetta’s pen, in a piece that would not have been out of place in the Communist Party’s Peoples Daily World.”
He adds, “The DeLacys were not merely Panetta’s constituents—they were close personal friends. Hugh DeLacy was also a longtime correspondent, with whom Panetta regularly discussed defense and foreign policy issues.” “

-end snip-


46 posted on 01/17/2013 2:06:28 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: plain talk

“Who the hell is this schmuck to tell me what I need?”

He is Jerald Nadler’s friend.


47 posted on 01/17/2013 2:07:43 PM PST by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Sir Napsalot

We don’t need all those government agencies. We don’t need all the support staff Congress and the Senate use. We don’t need czars.. etc. etc.


48 posted on 01/17/2013 2:08:04 PM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Red Steel

The source:

http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2011/06/leon-panettas-c.html


49 posted on 01/17/2013 2:08:18 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: lacrew
Ixnay on the iscussionday of hotgunsays.

Just tell them that though it's true that 12 is larger than 9, 12 is much smaller than 16, 20, 22, 25, 30, 38, 44, 45, 50, 243, 308, 380, 410, 3006 and 3030, among other numbers.

50 posted on 01/17/2013 2:10:42 PM PST by Paladin2
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