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Andrew Cuomo’s Brave New 'Roe' (Catholic governor pushes on-demand abortion leg)
NC Register ^ | January 16, 2013 | PETER JESSERER SMITH

Posted on 01/17/2013 1:44:17 PM PST by NYer

ALBANY, N.Y. — New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo is flexing his political muscle to give abortion advocates their biggest state victory in 40 years since Roe v. Wade: a sweeping expansion of abortion law that, if enforced, would put Catholic hospitals and many state-funded ministries out of business.

Cuomo’s approval ratings have topped 70% for six straight months, and, with just two years in office, he has already pushed through controversial same-sex “marriage” legislation and the most restrictive gun-control law in the nation.

Cuomo, who is Catholic, now is setting his sights on succeeding where governors for the past six years have failed: passing the proposed Reproductive Health Care Act.

But Cuomo has included the act as part of his 10-point “women’s equality” agenda, which includes a raise in the minimum wage, tougher anti-housing discrimination laws and measures against domestic violence and sex-trafficking.

Catholic bishops in New York’s Catholic Conference and pro-life groups are raising the alarm that Cuomo’s proposals are both “radical” and “dangerous” to unborn children, women and religious freedom.

“Gov. Cuomo’s bill elevates abortion to a fundamental right and says New York state can’t discriminate on abortion in benefits or services or anything else it provides,” said Kathleen Gallagher, the conference’s director of pro-life activities.

Cuomo’s legislation, she said, would make illegal abortion restrictions, such as parental-notification laws, informed-consent laws, restrictions on taxpayer funding of abortion and abortion bans of any kind.

The law will allow licensed medical professionals other than a physician to perform first-trimester abortions.

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1 posted on 01/17/2013 1:44:27 PM PST by NYer
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...
Mario Cuomo & Abortion

In 1984, Mario Cuomo pioneered the argument that one may be “personally opposed” to abortion while supporting abortion rights.

Ever since, this convenient locution has become a staple for countless Democratic politicians, particularly Catholic ones. It is Vice President Joe Biden’s view and was Senator John Kerry’s stance when he ran for president in 2004.

The "apple" does not fall far from the tree.

2 posted on 01/17/2013 1:46:11 PM PST by NYer ("Before I formed you in the womb I knew you." --Jeremiah 1:5)
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To: NYer

And he’s still a Catholic.

3 posted on 01/17/2013 1:47:24 PM PST by encm(ss)
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To: NYer

Wouldn’t want to be in his shoes come Final Judgement time.

4 posted on 01/17/2013 1:49:23 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: NYer

and the Catholic Church hasn’t ex-communicated him?

5 posted on 01/17/2013 1:52:56 PM PST by GeronL (
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To: NYer
I can't wait for Cardinal ("I Luv Illegals") Dolan, to excommunicate the already divorced (and shacked up) Andrew the Pious.
Waiting ... still waiting ...
6 posted on 01/17/2013 1:54:15 PM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: NYer
Worthiness to Receive Holy Communion. General Principles

by Joseph Ratzinger

1. Presenting oneself to receive Holy Communion should be a conscious decision, based on a reasoned judgement regarding one¿s worthiness to do so, according to the Church¿s objective criteria, asking such questions as: "Am I in full communion with the Catholic Church? Am I guilty of grave sin? Have I incurred a penalty (e.g. excommunication, interdict) that forbids me to receive Holy Communion? Have I prepared myself by fasting for at least an hour?" The practice of indiscriminately presenting oneself to receive Holy Communion, merely as a consequence of being present at Mass, is an abuse that must be corrected (cf. Instruction "Redemptionis Sacramentum," nos. 81, 83).

2. The Church teaches that abortion or euthanasia is a grave sin. The Encyclical Letter Evangelium vitae, with reference to judicial decisions or civil laws that authorise or promote abortion or euthanasia, states that there is a "grave and clear obligation to oppose them by conscientious objection. [...] In the case of an intrinsically unjust law, such as a law permitting abortion or euthanasia, it is therefore never licit to obey it, or to ¿take part in a propoganda campaign in favour of such a law or vote for it¿" (no. 73). Christians have a "grave obligation of conscience not to cooperate formally in practices which, even if permitted by civil legislation, are contrary to God¿s law. Indeed, from the moral standpoint, it is never licit to cooperate formally in evil. [...] This cooperation can never be justified either by invoking respect for the freedom of others or by appealing to the fact that civil law permits it or requires it" (no. 74).

3. Not all moral issues have the same moral weight as abortion and euthanasia. For example, if a Catholic were to be at odds with the Holy Father on the application of capital punishment or on the decision to wage war, he would not for that reason be considered unworthy to present himself to receive Holy Communion. While the Church exhorts civil authorities to seek peace, not war, and to exercise discretion and mercy in imposing punishment on criminals, it may still be permissible to take up arms to repel an aggressor or to have recourse to capital punishment. There may be a legitimate diversity of opinion even among Catholics about waging war and applying the death penalty, but not however with regard to abortion and euthanasia.

4. Apart from an individuals¿s judgement about his worthiness to present himself to receive the Holy Eucharist, the minister of Holy Communion may find himself in the situation where he must refuse to distribute Holy Communion to someone, such as in cases of a declared excommunication, a declared interdict, or an obstinate persistence in manifest grave sin (cf. can. 915).

5. Regarding the grave sin of abortion or euthanasia, when a person¿s formal cooperation becomes manifest (understood, in the case of a Catholic politician, as his consistently campaigning and voting for permissive abortion and euthanasia laws), his Pastor should meet with him, instructing him about the Church¿s teaching, informing him that he is not to present himself for Holy Communion until he brings to an end the objective situation of sin, and warning him that he will otherwise be denied the Eucharist.

6. When "these precautionary measures have not had their effect or in which they were not possible," and the person in question, with obstinate persistence, still presents himself to receive the Holy Eucharist, "the minister of Holy Communion must refuse to distribute it" (cf. Pontifical Council for Legislative Texts Declaration "Holy Communion and Divorced, Civilly Remarried Catholics" [2000], nos. 3-4). This decision, properly speaking, is not a sanction or a penalty. Nor is the minister of Holy Communion passing judgement on the person¿s subjective guilt, but rather is reacting to the person¿s public unworthiness to receive Holy Communion due to an objective situation of sin.

[N.B. A Catholic would be guilty of formal cooperation in evil, and so unworthy to present himself for Holy Communion, if he were to deliberately vote for a candidate precisely because of the candidate¿s permissive stand on abortion and/or euthanasia. When a Catholic does not share a candidate¿s stand in favour of abortion and/or euthanasia, but votes for that candidate for other reasons, it is considered remote material cooperation, which can be permitted in the presence of proportionate reasons.]
7 posted on 01/17/2013 1:55:32 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: DuncanWaring

25% of all hospital beds are in buildings with the word “Saint” on the door. The Libs want them to close. It will cause a “crisis” and the government will seize the assets.

8 posted on 01/17/2013 1:55:38 PM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: NYer
Cuomo, who is Catholic,

Really? Really??? Who says? He says? Unless there is some other "Catholic" Church that I do not know about then I will beg to disagree. Vehemently.

9 posted on 01/17/2013 1:56:15 PM PST by mc5cents
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To: NYer

Where’s Pope Gregory the Great when you need him?

10 posted on 01/17/2013 1:56:19 PM PST by rfp1234 (Arguing with a liberal is like playing chess with a pigeon.)
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To: NYer
Cuomo, who is Catholic apostate ...
11 posted on 01/17/2013 1:56:32 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: GeronL

He should have been a hundred times over. The bishop of Albany is a disgrace.

12 posted on 01/17/2013 1:58:21 PM PST by Claud
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To: NYer

You can’t be a Catholic and belong to the “Democrat” party I don’t care what the pointy hats say. Since the Demo-coms have booed even the mention of God any politician who claims to be “Catholic” is a lying fraud.

13 posted on 01/17/2013 1:58:27 PM PST by mosesdapoet ("To punish a province let a professor rule it." Frederick The Great paraphrased)
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To: GeronL
They have one of those 'automatic' deals where the penitent is supposed to realize that he's been dumped ~ doesn't seem to get the attention a prohibitory order might ~ there're a couple of Freepers who regularly post who might explain the situation to us.

My concern is this guy is so little concerned with issues of right and wrong he probably can't be trusted in anything at all. There's a strong current of thought out there that the Cuomo's are ALL mafioso.

14 posted on 01/17/2013 2:02:09 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: massgopguy

The lack of resistance by the hierarchy (was Cuomo at the Al Smith dinner with Obama?) eases my conscience when my cuts to discretionary spending include the Sunday collections; our hospitals are already closed, our schools are quickly following them, and if the bishops want to preach social justice then I will consider my taxes my contribution forthe upkeep of the less fortunate.

15 posted on 01/17/2013 2:02:16 PM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: NYer

How did we ever get to the position in our country that a person that is under the age of 18 can determine ON THEIR OWN to terminate the life of a child without any parental notification, but that same person cannot walk into a store and buy a lighter? Or cough medicine? Or any number of things?

The argument against telling a parent for safety reasons just smacks of hypocrisy as well. You are protecting a child who is about to kill a child?

16 posted on 01/17/2013 2:02:24 PM PST by Eagle of Liberty (Be the Enemy Within the Enemy Within...)
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To: ArrogantBustard

That shames the term ‘apostate’ ~ Cuomo was NEVER a Catholic, nor a Christian of any kind, nor a moral man ~ not even as a child. His behavior is that of a stone cold killer ~ a threat to all humanity.

17 posted on 01/17/2013 2:04:12 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: GeronL
Cuomo’s approval ratings have topped 70% for six straight months

In NYC, I can believe this. But upstate?

Any New York Freepers have any insight?

18 posted on 01/17/2013 2:05:03 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: NYer

NYer ~:” Cuomo, who is Catholic, now is setting his sights on succeeding where governors for the past six years have failed:”

No , .. Andy claims to have a Catholic background.
He is no more a Catholic than Pelosi, or Reid a Mormon .
His father should take him across his knee .
When I saw that he wanted to overturn “Roe” ,
I thought his girlfriend was pregnant .

Cohabitation is convienience
Marriage is a sacrament , and a commitment.
Children are part of the cement that reinforces that commitment .

19 posted on 01/17/2013 2:05:55 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt (Pay attention - the inmates ARE running the asylum!)
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To: encm(ss); GeronL
As we all know, Cuomo the Huomo and others like him are exommunicated laetae sententiae by the fact of their public participation in and advocacy for the abortion industry.

Nevertheless, the Catholic Bishops say little about them, arguing that they need say nothing; the excommunication occurs without their involvement.

I say that's not good enough. By failing to publicly and vigorously oppose these politicians, by failing to publicly, vigorously and certainly state that these politicians are acting contrary to Catholic belief and that these politicians are in fact excommunicated, the Bishops are giving the appearance that these abortionist politicians are acting acceptably to the Church. This appearance is false, even though commonly held. IMO, by their inaction, the Bishops are giving scandal. They are supposed to be leaders, they are supposed to be teachers. They had best get off their butts and lead, and teach. They're frittering away their authority. They remind me of the servant who was given only one talent ...

May God grant them the grace to exercise their office, to lead, to teach, and to sanctify.

20 posted on 01/17/2013 2:06:00 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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