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Andrew Cuomo’s Brave New 'Roe' (Catholic governor pushes on-demand abortion leg)
NC Register ^ | January 16, 2013 | PETER JESSERER SMITH

Posted on 01/17/2013 1:44:17 PM PST by NYer

ALBANY, N.Y. — New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo is flexing his political muscle to give abortion advocates their biggest state victory in 40 years since Roe v. Wade: a sweeping expansion of abortion law that, if enforced, would put Catholic hospitals and many state-funded ministries out of business.

Cuomo’s approval ratings have topped 70% for six straight months, and, with just two years in office, he has already pushed through controversial same-sex “marriage” legislation and the most restrictive gun-control law in the nation.

Cuomo, who is Catholic, now is setting his sights on succeeding where governors for the past six years have failed: passing the proposed Reproductive Health Care Act.

But Cuomo has included the act as part of his 10-point “women’s equality” agenda, which includes a raise in the minimum wage, tougher anti-housing discrimination laws and measures against domestic violence and sex-trafficking.

Catholic bishops in New York’s Catholic Conference and pro-life groups are raising the alarm that Cuomo’s proposals are both “radical” and “dangerous” to unborn children, women and religious freedom.

“Gov. Cuomo’s bill elevates abortion to a fundamental right and says New York state can’t discriminate on abortion in benefits or services or anything else it provides,” said Kathleen Gallagher, the conference’s director of pro-life activities.

Cuomo’s legislation, she said, would make illegal abortion restrictions, such as parental-notification laws, informed-consent laws, restrictions on taxpayer funding of abortion and abortion bans of any kind.

The law will allow licensed medical professionals other than a physician to perform first-trimester abortions.

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1 posted on 01/17/2013 1:44:27 PM PST by NYer
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...
Mario Cuomo & Abortion

In 1984, Mario Cuomo pioneered the argument that one may be “personally opposed” to abortion while supporting abortion rights.

Ever since, this convenient locution has become a staple for countless Democratic politicians, particularly Catholic ones. It is Vice President Joe Biden’s view and was Senator John Kerry’s stance when he ran for president in 2004.

The "apple" does not fall far from the tree.

2 posted on 01/17/2013 1:46:11 PM PST by NYer ("Before I formed you in the womb I knew you." --Jeremiah 1:5)
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To: NYer

And he’s still a Catholic.


3 posted on 01/17/2013 1:47:24 PM PST by encm(ss)
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To: NYer

Wouldn’t want to be in his shoes come Final Judgement time.


4 posted on 01/17/2013 1:49:23 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: NYer

and the Catholic Church hasn’t ex-communicated him?


5 posted on 01/17/2013 1:52:56 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: NYer
I can't wait for Cardinal ("I Luv Illegals") Dolan, to excommunicate the already divorced (and shacked up) Andrew the Pious.
Waiting ... still waiting ...
6 posted on 01/17/2013 1:54:15 PM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: NYer
Worthiness to Receive Holy Communion. General Principles

by Joseph Ratzinger


1. Presenting oneself to receive Holy Communion should be a conscious decision, based on a reasoned judgement regarding one¿s worthiness to do so, according to the Church¿s objective criteria, asking such questions as: "Am I in full communion with the Catholic Church? Am I guilty of grave sin? Have I incurred a penalty (e.g. excommunication, interdict) that forbids me to receive Holy Communion? Have I prepared myself by fasting for at least an hour?" The practice of indiscriminately presenting oneself to receive Holy Communion, merely as a consequence of being present at Mass, is an abuse that must be corrected (cf. Instruction "Redemptionis Sacramentum," nos. 81, 83).

2. The Church teaches that abortion or euthanasia is a grave sin. The Encyclical Letter Evangelium vitae, with reference to judicial decisions or civil laws that authorise or promote abortion or euthanasia, states that there is a "grave and clear obligation to oppose them by conscientious objection. [...] In the case of an intrinsically unjust law, such as a law permitting abortion or euthanasia, it is therefore never licit to obey it, or to ¿take part in a propoganda campaign in favour of such a law or vote for it¿" (no. 73). Christians have a "grave obligation of conscience not to cooperate formally in practices which, even if permitted by civil legislation, are contrary to God¿s law. Indeed, from the moral standpoint, it is never licit to cooperate formally in evil. [...] This cooperation can never be justified either by invoking respect for the freedom of others or by appealing to the fact that civil law permits it or requires it" (no. 74).

3. Not all moral issues have the same moral weight as abortion and euthanasia. For example, if a Catholic were to be at odds with the Holy Father on the application of capital punishment or on the decision to wage war, he would not for that reason be considered unworthy to present himself to receive Holy Communion. While the Church exhorts civil authorities to seek peace, not war, and to exercise discretion and mercy in imposing punishment on criminals, it may still be permissible to take up arms to repel an aggressor or to have recourse to capital punishment. There may be a legitimate diversity of opinion even among Catholics about waging war and applying the death penalty, but not however with regard to abortion and euthanasia.

4. Apart from an individuals¿s judgement about his worthiness to present himself to receive the Holy Eucharist, the minister of Holy Communion may find himself in the situation where he must refuse to distribute Holy Communion to someone, such as in cases of a declared excommunication, a declared interdict, or an obstinate persistence in manifest grave sin (cf. can. 915).

5. Regarding the grave sin of abortion or euthanasia, when a person¿s formal cooperation becomes manifest (understood, in the case of a Catholic politician, as his consistently campaigning and voting for permissive abortion and euthanasia laws), his Pastor should meet with him, instructing him about the Church¿s teaching, informing him that he is not to present himself for Holy Communion until he brings to an end the objective situation of sin, and warning him that he will otherwise be denied the Eucharist.

6. When "these precautionary measures have not had their effect or in which they were not possible," and the person in question, with obstinate persistence, still presents himself to receive the Holy Eucharist, "the minister of Holy Communion must refuse to distribute it" (cf. Pontifical Council for Legislative Texts Declaration "Holy Communion and Divorced, Civilly Remarried Catholics" [2000], nos. 3-4). This decision, properly speaking, is not a sanction or a penalty. Nor is the minister of Holy Communion passing judgement on the person¿s subjective guilt, but rather is reacting to the person¿s public unworthiness to receive Holy Communion due to an objective situation of sin.

[N.B. A Catholic would be guilty of formal cooperation in evil, and so unworthy to present himself for Holy Communion, if he were to deliberately vote for a candidate precisely because of the candidate¿s permissive stand on abortion and/or euthanasia. When a Catholic does not share a candidate¿s stand in favour of abortion and/or euthanasia, but votes for that candidate for other reasons, it is considered remote material cooperation, which can be permitted in the presence of proportionate reasons.]
7 posted on 01/17/2013 1:55:32 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: DuncanWaring

25% of all hospital beds are in buildings with the word “Saint” on the door. The Libs want them to close. It will cause a “crisis” and the government will seize the assets.


8 posted on 01/17/2013 1:55:38 PM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: NYer
Cuomo, who is Catholic,

Really? Really??? Who says? He says? Unless there is some other "Catholic" Church that I do not know about then I will beg to disagree. Vehemently.

9 posted on 01/17/2013 1:56:15 PM PST by mc5cents
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To: NYer

Where’s Pope Gregory the Great when you need him?


10 posted on 01/17/2013 1:56:19 PM PST by rfp1234 (Arguing with a liberal is like playing chess with a pigeon.)
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To: NYer
Cuomo, who is Catholic apostate ...
11 posted on 01/17/2013 1:56:32 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: GeronL

He should have been a hundred times over. The bishop of Albany is a disgrace.


12 posted on 01/17/2013 1:58:21 PM PST by Claud
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To: NYer

You can’t be a Catholic and belong to the “Democrat” party I don’t care what the pointy hats say. Since the Demo-coms have booed even the mention of God any politician who claims to be “Catholic” is a lying fraud.


13 posted on 01/17/2013 1:58:27 PM PST by mosesdapoet ("To punish a province let a professor rule it." Frederick The Great paraphrased)
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To: GeronL
They have one of those 'automatic' deals where the penitent is supposed to realize that he's been dumped ~ doesn't seem to get the attention a prohibitory order might ~ there're a couple of Freepers who regularly post who might explain the situation to us.

My concern is this guy is so little concerned with issues of right and wrong he probably can't be trusted in anything at all. There's a strong current of thought out there that the Cuomo's are ALL mafioso.

14 posted on 01/17/2013 2:02:09 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: massgopguy

The lack of resistance by the hierarchy (was Cuomo at the Al Smith dinner with Obama?) eases my conscience when my cuts to discretionary spending include the Sunday collections; our hospitals are already closed, our schools are quickly following them, and if the bishops want to preach social justice then I will consider my taxes my contribution forthe upkeep of the less fortunate.


15 posted on 01/17/2013 2:02:16 PM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: NYer

How did we ever get to the position in our country that a person that is under the age of 18 can determine ON THEIR OWN to terminate the life of a child without any parental notification, but that same person cannot walk into a store and buy a lighter? Or cough medicine? Or any number of things?

The argument against telling a parent for safety reasons just smacks of hypocrisy as well. You are protecting a child who is about to kill a child?


16 posted on 01/17/2013 2:02:24 PM PST by Eagle of Liberty (Be the Enemy Within the Enemy Within...)
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To: ArrogantBustard

That shames the term ‘apostate’ ~ Cuomo was NEVER a Catholic, nor a Christian of any kind, nor a moral man ~ not even as a child. His behavior is that of a stone cold killer ~ a threat to all humanity.


17 posted on 01/17/2013 2:04:12 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: GeronL
Cuomo’s approval ratings have topped 70% for six straight months

In NYC, I can believe this. But upstate?

Any New York Freepers have any insight?

18 posted on 01/17/2013 2:05:03 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: NYer

NYer ~:” Cuomo, who is Catholic, now is setting his sights on succeeding where governors for the past six years have failed:”

No , .. Andy claims to have a Catholic background.
He is no more a Catholic than Pelosi, or Reid a Mormon .
His father should take him across his knee .
When I saw that he wanted to overturn “Roe” ,
I thought his girlfriend was pregnant .

Cohabitation is convienience
Marriage is a sacrament , and a commitment.
Children are part of the cement that reinforces that commitment .


19 posted on 01/17/2013 2:05:55 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt (Pay attention - the inmates ARE running the asylum!)
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To: encm(ss); GeronL
As we all know, Cuomo the Huomo and others like him are exommunicated laetae sententiae by the fact of their public participation in and advocacy for the abortion industry.

Nevertheless, the Catholic Bishops say little about them, arguing that they need say nothing; the excommunication occurs without their involvement.

I say that's not good enough. By failing to publicly and vigorously oppose these politicians, by failing to publicly, vigorously and certainly state that these politicians are acting contrary to Catholic belief and that these politicians are in fact excommunicated, the Bishops are giving the appearance that these abortionist politicians are acting acceptably to the Church. This appearance is false, even though commonly held. IMO, by their inaction, the Bishops are giving scandal. They are supposed to be leaders, they are supposed to be teachers. They had best get off their butts and lead, and teach. They're frittering away their authority. They remind me of the servant who was given only one talent ...

May God grant them the grace to exercise their office, to lead, to teach, and to sanctify.

20 posted on 01/17/2013 2:06:00 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: muawiyah
My apologies to actual apostates ...

Cuomo the Huomo seems to have learned his lessons well from his father ... Mario Cuomo invented the egregious "Pro-choice but personally opposed" sophistry that has led so many folks down the wide road to Hell.

21 posted on 01/17/2013 2:08:30 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: NYer

>Cuomo, who is Catholic

Can someone explain why this gun grabbing, baby killing, filthy POS is allowed to soil ANY Catholic Church? With an iron clad hierarchy such as the church, why isn’t this scumbag excommunicated?


22 posted on 01/17/2013 2:10:18 PM PST by soycd
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To: muawiyah

In the case of a politician this flagrantly heretical, this defiant of the moral law, the automatic “you’ve excommunicated yourself” cop-out isn’t worth a WET DAMN.

A flagrant public heretic deserves an equally flagrant, equally public, completely unequivocal EXCOMMUNICATION. Bell book and Candle...the old fashioned way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRt2cKvJLlE

This traitor to the Christian faith runs around like a pious crap *scandalizing the faithful*. WHAT THE HELL DON’T YOU GET ABOUT THAT YOUR EXCELLENCIES????? Every liberal POS newspaper positively fetishizes printing the “fact” that he is Catholic in every story.

EXCOMMUNICATE HIM!!!! And if Bishop Hubbard won’t do it let’s have ROME PUT HIS CATHEDRAL UNDER THE INTERDICT until he does.

Dammit, this makes me so mad. Sorry for the shouting.


23 posted on 01/17/2013 2:13:31 PM PST by Claud
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To: muawiyah
Cuomo was NEVER a Catholic, nor a Christian of any kind, nor a moral man

Worse even than Lieutenant-General Bangs.

24 posted on 01/17/2013 2:14:12 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: NYer

The definition of scandal is below, and, wordy, yes, but mandatory reading for someoine drawing taxpayer salary to do one’s homework. That Cuomo, either one, does not understand that “everyone does it” doesn’t mean D during final judgement, should not fool anyone interested in his won final judgement.

Many brilliant, too brilliant, wealthy and comfortable NYers are stupid enough to follow these dopey politicians into H-E-double tooothpicks.

Scandal def. from Catholic Encyclopedia (Thomas is Thomas Aquinas, a doctor of the Church, whose wisdom and holy lifestyle dwarfs either Cuomo’s to the point that most should ingore these two power hungry pursuaders in favor of living correctly and, heck, not killing innocent babies/people.

BTW, Andy Cuomo says, oh and rules on, “you don’t need ten bullets to kill a deer”. OK Andy, even my cousin Vinny Gambini’s girlfriend knows that. What you don’t know is the intent of the 2nd ammendment, as if the framers took the time to write the SECOND (not the 30’th or even the 11th Ammendment) so Americans could kill deer.

Anyway, here’s the definition of scandal, oh politicians who claim Catholicism without so much as reviewing their second grade Catechism (I do not exaggerate, here)

According to St. Thomas (II-II, Q. liii, a. 1) scandal is a word or action evil in itself, which occasions another’s spiritual ruin. It is a word or action, that is either an external act—for an internal act can have no influence on the conduct of another—or the omission of an external act, because to omit what one should do is equivalent to doing what is forbidden; it must be evil in itself, or in appearance; this is the interpretation of the words of St. Thomas: minus rectum. It is not the physical cause of a neighbor’s sin, but only the moral cause, or occasion; further, this moral causality may be understood in a strict sense, as when one orders, requests, or advises another to commit the sin (this is strictly inductive scandal, which some call co-operation in a broad sense), or in a large sense, as when a person without being directly concerned in the sin nevertheless exercises a certain influence on the sin of his neighbor, e.g. by committing such a sin in his presence (this is inductive scandal in a broad sense).


25 posted on 01/17/2013 2:15:33 PM PST by stanne
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To: Eagle of Liberty
How did we ever get to the position in our country that a person that is under the age of 18 can determine ON THEIR OWN to terminate the life of a child without any parental notification, but that same person cannot walk into a store and buy a lighter? Or cough medicine? Or any number of things?

Legislation! Each state determines its own policies, at least for now. Hence, the current governor of NY, Andrew Cuomo, is introducing a bill to provide on demand in this state. AFAIK, this is not the policy in all states ... yet. You still have an opportunity to voice your opinion in your state.

26 posted on 01/17/2013 2:17:30 PM PST by NYer ("Before I formed you in the womb I knew you." --Jeremiah 1:5)
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To: soycd

The responsibility for that would ordinarily lie with the bishop. And the bishop of Albany is one of the most liberal in America.

Rome needs to step in here though. This is WAY out of hand. I’m not a canonist, I don’t know what can be done but something has to be done.


27 posted on 01/17/2013 2:23:50 PM PST by Claud
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To: GeronL

They never ex-communicated Fat Ted and then sent him off with one giant church funeral.


28 posted on 01/17/2013 2:27:05 PM PST by surrey
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To: ArrogantBustard

Exactly AB. I get the logic that there’s no reason to publicly excommunicate someone for a private sin.

But something this public?? No...this *cannot* be allowed to stand. The response must be swift and severe.


29 posted on 01/17/2013 2:35:20 PM PST by Claud
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To: NYer

And the swoon over his “Presidential look”.

Not even an idea of the Constitution not from him not from We the people (not us, here).

Lately, I cannot get the idea behind swering on the bible to uphold the Constitution, which is what this upcoming inauguration gala is all about, a one minute (no more) swearing to God to uphold the Constitution in order to perserve the nation, and having just no respect for that, the oath, the constitution, nothing.

It’s not as if this doesn’t come up on judgement day.

I don’t know. It’s like marriage or godparenting. People take an oath and what’s more important is the wagering going on in the back of the church with Jimmy and Danny as to how long the ceremony is going to last and then it’s out to the tailgating on the way into the yacht club.

The women, the wives and mothers don’t care anymore. They’re busy (at the baptism reception of their won child) in the kitchen waxing boisterously about the tube tying procedures they had.

That’s where it starts. at home.

Women, wise up. Tell your husbands, when they act like this horrible excuse of a man, hiding behind his bodyguards, that they are on their way to a very ugly place.

Believe it. It exists.


30 posted on 01/17/2013 2:40:35 PM PST by stanne
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To: NYer
Hey Cuomo....Kill just 21 of these most innocent of babies and you'll beat out Newtown.

And without firing a shot!!

31 posted on 01/17/2013 2:43:41 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: GeronL

Exactly my question. Until the Catholic Church starts to publicly and forcefully excommunicate these anti-Christian baby killers the Church will have zero credibility. If the Church won’t excommunicate a politician who is openly defiant of Church teaching on an issue that the Church is one of its core beliefs, then what does the name Catholic mean any more? And that goes for all the Catholic politicians lining up to support homosexual “marriage” as well. Start standing for something or you’ll suffer the same fate of irrelevancy being experienced by the Episcopalians and Presbyterians.


32 posted on 01/17/2013 2:49:15 PM PST by littleharbour
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To: ArrogantBustard

As long as the Bishops allow him to continue receiving Communion he’s a Catholic apparently.


33 posted on 01/17/2013 2:51:48 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: NYer

So why don’t these New York Catholic Bishops get together and tell Cuomo he is no longer a Catholic.


34 posted on 01/17/2013 3:07:06 PM PST by Venturer
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To: surrey

Yep. The Cardinals were there.


35 posted on 01/17/2013 3:10:55 PM PST by Venturer
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To: NYer

...moving from Faux Catholic to full fledged Fake Catholic


36 posted on 01/17/2013 3:12:14 PM PST by ptsal (E)
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To: NYer

Cuomo is a pathetic fraud..goes on TV crying about wanting to protect children yet he favors the murder of innocent children every single day. I wouldn’t want to be anywhere near him when he finally meets his maker, its not gonna be pretty


37 posted on 01/17/2013 3:13:37 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: encm(ss)

No, none of these pro-abortion, sodomite “marriage” advocate are Catholic,they forfeited that right when they signed on with Satan to advance their careers. The media needs to start referring to this creeps as Catholic heretics. You can not be a Catholic and be for abortion. Impossible.It is an instrinic evil that is none negotiable.


38 posted on 01/17/2013 3:24:18 PM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet

The jury is still out on Cuomo and who his father really is. Yes, from his rapid leftist beliefs, from abortion on demand, to wanting sodomite “marriage”,to being the biggest gun grabber in the country, you’d have to think he’s a clone of the old man. But looking at his face he looks like the off-spring of Clyde the Orangutan.


39 posted on 01/17/2013 3:33:18 PM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: Claud

Hubbard is terrible and has been terrible for all of his reign. He was one of the “boy bishops,” the very young [raving liberal] bishops appointed after Vatican II. I think he’s pretty close to retirement and IIRC, the Pope has already accepted his letter.

Cleaning up the abuses in that diocese is going to be a long, hard slog.


40 posted on 01/17/2013 4:28:21 PM PST by livius
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To: NYer

What do the democrats final end game look like, where are they attempting to take the country?

A so called catholic who would sell his soul for maybe 8 years in the white house.


41 posted on 01/17/2013 5:59:51 PM PST by reefdiver
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To: Eagle of Liberty

Can they get a tattoo, which may be considered a form of speech?


42 posted on 01/17/2013 6:39:04 PM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: NYer
The law will allow licensed medical professionals other than a physician to perform first-trimester abortions.

They have to do this because all the old abortionists are dying out, and many younger docs just don't want to do them.

43 posted on 01/17/2013 8:41:43 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: NYer

Mario Cuomo didn’t pioneer that argument. By 1984, it was already being used by the Kennedys, who learned it from Jesuit priest, and Congressman, Robert Drinan.


44 posted on 01/17/2013 8:44:40 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: Buckeye McFrog
I don't know one way or the other ...

But does this foul creature ever actually attempt to even enter a Catholic Church building, much less receive Communion?

As I said, by failing to publicly condemn the man's actions, by failing to publicly reprove him for his very public sinful behaviour, the bishops are giving scandal. They are creating the appearance that his actions are consistent with Catholic belief and practice. This appearance is false, and is a grave danger to many souls.

45 posted on 01/18/2013 6:52:00 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: NYer; The Mayor; Salvation; miss marmelstein; sickoflibs
Mmmmmmm....Andy's dancing to the tune 24/7. He jest can't get enough of "Hail To The Chief." Sandra's been instructed to hum it as Andy approaches the breakfast table.

An abortion sololoquy? That sounds an awful lot like Andy's using Daddy Mario's Political Playbook.

Andy's daddy lit a firecracker under Andy's seat----so Andy's gotta go for it b/c Daddy screwed up his own prez bid.

Mario had it nearly sewed up but then-Gov Mario announced that he could not enter the 1998 New Hampshire primary because of his obligation to manage his state's budget crisis---that was the swan song of his long-running flirtation with the presidency going back to 1988.

He would have been the front-runner b/c expectations were high. Mario had even gone so far as to rush out of the Dem convention as a ploy to enhance his candidacy.

Then Catholic Mario made that radically pro-abort speech at Catholic Notre Dame.

Ut, oh.

Is Andy's PR person booking him for a speech at Fordham?

46 posted on 01/18/2013 6:55:52 AM PST by Liz
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To: SuziQ
They have to do this because all the old abortionists are dying out, and many younger docs just don't want to do them.

IIRC, Mayor Doomburg forced medical students in New York to learn how to do abortions.

47 posted on 01/18/2013 7:13:37 AM PST by NYer ("Before I formed you in the womb I knew you." --Jeremiah 1:5)
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To: stanne

“And the swoon over his “Presidential look”

Cuomo looks like Elly Mae’s chimp.


48 posted on 01/18/2013 7:36:41 AM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: Liz
Sandra's going to adapt her awful Kwanzaa cake for a Hail to the Chief cake. It'll be a little like the cake served in “The Help,” which Sandra once served to Matilda after she dared to criticize her ketchup-laden lasagna.

Liz: I sense fun here. And no Texan can complain.

49 posted on 01/18/2013 7:38:43 AM PST by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: miss marmelstein

JUST PILLOW TALK I hear Sandra’s nickname for Andy is “Squirt.”

And no......that does not refer to Andy’s being an offspring of Mario.

ROTFL.


50 posted on 01/18/2013 7:49:44 AM PST by Liz
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