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Andrew Cuomo’s Brave New 'Roe' (Catholic governor pushes on-demand abortion leg)
NC Register ^ | January 16, 2013 | PETER JESSERER SMITH

Posted on 01/17/2013 1:44:17 PM PST by NYer

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To: muawiyah
My apologies to actual apostates ...

Cuomo the Huomo seems to have learned his lessons well from his father ... Mario Cuomo invented the egregious "Pro-choice but personally opposed" sophistry that has led so many folks down the wide road to Hell.

21 posted on 01/17/2013 2:08:30 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: NYer

>Cuomo, who is Catholic

Can someone explain why this gun grabbing, baby killing, filthy POS is allowed to soil ANY Catholic Church? With an iron clad hierarchy such as the church, why isn’t this scumbag excommunicated?


22 posted on 01/17/2013 2:10:18 PM PST by soycd
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To: muawiyah

In the case of a politician this flagrantly heretical, this defiant of the moral law, the automatic “you’ve excommunicated yourself” cop-out isn’t worth a WET DAMN.

A flagrant public heretic deserves an equally flagrant, equally public, completely unequivocal EXCOMMUNICATION. Bell book and Candle...the old fashioned way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRt2cKvJLlE

This traitor to the Christian faith runs around like a pious crap *scandalizing the faithful*. WHAT THE HELL DON’T YOU GET ABOUT THAT YOUR EXCELLENCIES????? Every liberal POS newspaper positively fetishizes printing the “fact” that he is Catholic in every story.

EXCOMMUNICATE HIM!!!! And if Bishop Hubbard won’t do it let’s have ROME PUT HIS CATHEDRAL UNDER THE INTERDICT until he does.

Dammit, this makes me so mad. Sorry for the shouting.


23 posted on 01/17/2013 2:13:31 PM PST by Claud
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To: muawiyah
Cuomo was NEVER a Catholic, nor a Christian of any kind, nor a moral man

Worse even than Lieutenant-General Bangs.

24 posted on 01/17/2013 2:14:12 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: NYer

The definition of scandal is below, and, wordy, yes, but mandatory reading for someoine drawing taxpayer salary to do one’s homework. That Cuomo, either one, does not understand that “everyone does it” doesn’t mean D during final judgement, should not fool anyone interested in his won final judgement.

Many brilliant, too brilliant, wealthy and comfortable NYers are stupid enough to follow these dopey politicians into H-E-double tooothpicks.

Scandal def. from Catholic Encyclopedia (Thomas is Thomas Aquinas, a doctor of the Church, whose wisdom and holy lifestyle dwarfs either Cuomo’s to the point that most should ingore these two power hungry pursuaders in favor of living correctly and, heck, not killing innocent babies/people.

BTW, Andy Cuomo says, oh and rules on, “you don’t need ten bullets to kill a deer”. OK Andy, even my cousin Vinny Gambini’s girlfriend knows that. What you don’t know is the intent of the 2nd ammendment, as if the framers took the time to write the SECOND (not the 30’th or even the 11th Ammendment) so Americans could kill deer.

Anyway, here’s the definition of scandal, oh politicians who claim Catholicism without so much as reviewing their second grade Catechism (I do not exaggerate, here)

According to St. Thomas (II-II, Q. liii, a. 1) scandal is a word or action evil in itself, which occasions another’s spiritual ruin. It is a word or action, that is either an external act—for an internal act can have no influence on the conduct of another—or the omission of an external act, because to omit what one should do is equivalent to doing what is forbidden; it must be evil in itself, or in appearance; this is the interpretation of the words of St. Thomas: minus rectum. It is not the physical cause of a neighbor’s sin, but only the moral cause, or occasion; further, this moral causality may be understood in a strict sense, as when one orders, requests, or advises another to commit the sin (this is strictly inductive scandal, which some call co-operation in a broad sense), or in a large sense, as when a person without being directly concerned in the sin nevertheless exercises a certain influence on the sin of his neighbor, e.g. by committing such a sin in his presence (this is inductive scandal in a broad sense).


25 posted on 01/17/2013 2:15:33 PM PST by stanne
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To: Eagle of Liberty
How did we ever get to the position in our country that a person that is under the age of 18 can determine ON THEIR OWN to terminate the life of a child without any parental notification, but that same person cannot walk into a store and buy a lighter? Or cough medicine? Or any number of things?

Legislation! Each state determines its own policies, at least for now. Hence, the current governor of NY, Andrew Cuomo, is introducing a bill to provide on demand in this state. AFAIK, this is not the policy in all states ... yet. You still have an opportunity to voice your opinion in your state.

26 posted on 01/17/2013 2:17:30 PM PST by NYer ("Before I formed you in the womb I knew you." --Jeremiah 1:5)
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To: soycd

The responsibility for that would ordinarily lie with the bishop. And the bishop of Albany is one of the most liberal in America.

Rome needs to step in here though. This is WAY out of hand. I’m not a canonist, I don’t know what can be done but something has to be done.


27 posted on 01/17/2013 2:23:50 PM PST by Claud
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To: GeronL

They never ex-communicated Fat Ted and then sent him off with one giant church funeral.


28 posted on 01/17/2013 2:27:05 PM PST by surrey
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To: ArrogantBustard

Exactly AB. I get the logic that there’s no reason to publicly excommunicate someone for a private sin.

But something this public?? No...this *cannot* be allowed to stand. The response must be swift and severe.


29 posted on 01/17/2013 2:35:20 PM PST by Claud
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To: NYer

And the swoon over his “Presidential look”.

Not even an idea of the Constitution not from him not from We the people (not us, here).

Lately, I cannot get the idea behind swering on the bible to uphold the Constitution, which is what this upcoming inauguration gala is all about, a one minute (no more) swearing to God to uphold the Constitution in order to perserve the nation, and having just no respect for that, the oath, the constitution, nothing.

It’s not as if this doesn’t come up on judgement day.

I don’t know. It’s like marriage or godparenting. People take an oath and what’s more important is the wagering going on in the back of the church with Jimmy and Danny as to how long the ceremony is going to last and then it’s out to the tailgating on the way into the yacht club.

The women, the wives and mothers don’t care anymore. They’re busy (at the baptism reception of their won child) in the kitchen waxing boisterously about the tube tying procedures they had.

That’s where it starts. at home.

Women, wise up. Tell your husbands, when they act like this horrible excuse of a man, hiding behind his bodyguards, that they are on their way to a very ugly place.

Believe it. It exists.


30 posted on 01/17/2013 2:40:35 PM PST by stanne
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To: NYer
Hey Cuomo....Kill just 21 of these most innocent of babies and you'll beat out Newtown.

And without firing a shot!!

31 posted on 01/17/2013 2:43:41 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: GeronL

Exactly my question. Until the Catholic Church starts to publicly and forcefully excommunicate these anti-Christian baby killers the Church will have zero credibility. If the Church won’t excommunicate a politician who is openly defiant of Church teaching on an issue that the Church is one of its core beliefs, then what does the name Catholic mean any more? And that goes for all the Catholic politicians lining up to support homosexual “marriage” as well. Start standing for something or you’ll suffer the same fate of irrelevancy being experienced by the Episcopalians and Presbyterians.


32 posted on 01/17/2013 2:49:15 PM PST by littleharbour
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To: ArrogantBustard

As long as the Bishops allow him to continue receiving Communion he’s a Catholic apparently.


33 posted on 01/17/2013 2:51:48 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: NYer

So why don’t these New York Catholic Bishops get together and tell Cuomo he is no longer a Catholic.


34 posted on 01/17/2013 3:07:06 PM PST by Venturer
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To: surrey

Yep. The Cardinals were there.


35 posted on 01/17/2013 3:10:55 PM PST by Venturer
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To: NYer

...moving from Faux Catholic to full fledged Fake Catholic


36 posted on 01/17/2013 3:12:14 PM PST by ptsal (E)
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To: NYer

Cuomo is a pathetic fraud..goes on TV crying about wanting to protect children yet he favors the murder of innocent children every single day. I wouldn’t want to be anywhere near him when he finally meets his maker, its not gonna be pretty


37 posted on 01/17/2013 3:13:37 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: encm(ss)

No, none of these pro-abortion, sodomite “marriage” advocate are Catholic,they forfeited that right when they signed on with Satan to advance their careers. The media needs to start referring to this creeps as Catholic heretics. You can not be a Catholic and be for abortion. Impossible.It is an instrinic evil that is none negotiable.


38 posted on 01/17/2013 3:24:18 PM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet

The jury is still out on Cuomo and who his father really is. Yes, from his rapid leftist beliefs, from abortion on demand, to wanting sodomite “marriage”,to being the biggest gun grabber in the country, you’d have to think he’s a clone of the old man. But looking at his face he looks like the off-spring of Clyde the Orangutan.


39 posted on 01/17/2013 3:33:18 PM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: Claud

Hubbard is terrible and has been terrible for all of his reign. He was one of the “boy bishops,” the very young [raving liberal] bishops appointed after Vatican II. I think he’s pretty close to retirement and IIRC, the Pope has already accepted his letter.

Cleaning up the abuses in that diocese is going to be a long, hard slog.


40 posted on 01/17/2013 4:28:21 PM PST by livius
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