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Report: Rand Paul to introduce bill nullifying Obama’s executive orders on guns
Hotair ^ | 01/17/2013 | AllahPundit

Posted on 01/17/2013 2:20:01 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Via the Daily Caller, a teaser for his appearance on "Hannity" later tonight. If I didn't know better, I'd say that a guy who just visited Israel and is now talking about blocking executive overreach on gun-grabbing just might be running for president in 2016.

The bill will go nowhere but conservatives will appreciate the gesture:

“I’m told Sen. Rand Paul will introduce language within hours, within hours, to call for the nullification and prohibition of funding for the president’s executive actions announced today and possibly even using the federal courts to nullify and defund some of the things that he plans on doing,” [Fox News host Eric] Bolling said.

[A] Capitol Hill source told TheDC that Paul’s legislation is expected to do three things: nullify Obama’s executive orders, defund them and ask the Senate to file a court challenge to them.

At the very least, if he can figure out a way to bring this to the floor, it’ll be fun to see how Democrats whose seats are up next year will vote on it. Word on the Hill is that Reid might not even force a vote on the assault-weapons ban lest it prove too difficult for red-state Dems’ reelection campaigns. (According to a CNN poll released today, the recent surge of support for gun control is already starting to fade.) Will Mark Begich? Mary Landrieu? Heidi Heitkamp? Watch the video of her below from a local newscast yesterday (via the Washington Free Beacon) not only sounding sour on Obama’s gun recommendations but going so far as to accuse the White House of having an agenda unrelated to school shootings. Which, of course, is true.

Exit question: How many doctors are really going to follow the White House’s recommendations to talk to their patients about gun safety? I know they do get intrusive on occasion, and it’s a legit topic in the case of a patient who seems genuinely mental, but doctors must realize what a hot button this subject is for many people. Why risk alienating a patient and having him take his business elsewhere by trying to have “the talk” with him about guns? How many doctors know enough about guns themselves to even have that talk? This seems like a golden example of the White House floating an idea that sounds conscientious — it isn’t, it’s just the AMA’s attempt to leach some extra federal money — but which will be roundly ignored. The nicest thing that can be said for it is that it’s not remotely the most laughworthy recommendation offered by Obama this morning.

CLICK ABOVE LINK FOR THE VIDEO



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: banglist; executiveorder; guncontrol; guns; obama; paul; randpaul; secondamendment; tyranny

1 posted on 01/17/2013 2:20:12 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

This is interesting, just sent by a friend. It outlines most of the ‘mass’ killings/violent attacks and the LEGAL drugs each of the perps was on or withdrawing from at the time.

http://ssristories.com/index.php?sort=what&p=school


2 posted on 01/17/2013 2:23:41 PM PST by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: SeekAndFind
I've got to hand it to him. Rand Paul has consistently been fighting for and on the side of the issues I believe in.

No doubt there are many others, but he's one of the few whose efforts make the one stream media feed and he does an admirable job explaining the what and why without sounding like a nut.

How rare is that?

3 posted on 01/17/2013 2:36:27 PM PST by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: GBA

And the bonus is this — He does not seem to be as crazy as his dad when it comes to foreign policy.


4 posted on 01/17/2013 2:40:47 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Well, well...there's IS a Republican with a big set of brass ones after all.

Cheers for Paul! And FU Vichy Republicans.

5 posted on 01/17/2013 2:42:06 PM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: GBA

Not sure how far this will get, but I o appreciate his bringing it up.

He seems to be the only man in the Senate with a pair of balls.


6 posted on 01/17/2013 2:43:37 PM PST by Venturer
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To: GBA

Why didn’t he introduce a bill to nullify Obama’s backdoor amnesty E.O. for 1.8 million illegal aliens?


7 posted on 01/17/2013 2:44:34 PM PST by kabar
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To: kabar
Why didn’t he introduce a bill to nullify Obama’s backdoor amnesty E.O. for 1.8 million illegal aliens?

Well, for me personally, my Constitutional right to keep and bear arms is a more pressing matter than the inconvenience of illegals running around washing dishes and blowing leaves for sub minimum wage pay. I won't lose sleep over the latter if he's focusing on the former.

8 posted on 01/17/2013 2:49:49 PM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: SeekAndFind

The first Republican who stands up to Obama on the gun issue in a meaningful way gets my support on 2016.....if we make it that far. So far I like what I see in Rand Paul


9 posted on 01/17/2013 2:50:58 PM PST by jersey117
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To: jersey117

Out of all the nonsense i see. Rand Paul is about the best I know for believing in the American Dream.

bobo


10 posted on 01/17/2013 3:00:13 PM PST by bobo1 (the KDE plasma desktop is awesome!)
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To: GBA; All
I've got to hand it to him. Rand Paul has consistently been fighting for and on the side of the issues I believe in.

Why doesn't Rand mention the Court's clarification that constitutionally undefined executive orders have no teeth without Congress's legislative support?

Executive Order

In fact, why are the public schools evidently not teaching that the Founding States made the Constitution's Sections 1-3 of Article I to clarify that all legislative powers of the federal government are vested in the elected members of Congress, Congress therefore having a monopoly on federal legislative powers whether it wants it or not. (But what are legislative powers the people ask in unison?)

11 posted on 01/17/2013 3:01:31 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: AuntB

Thanks AuntB! That’s a fantastic link to a summary of school threats or violence between 1988-2011 which links to more details. How can MSM ignore this clear correlation of school violence (using various methods including guns) and folks on some form of anti-depressant drugs. (I know the answer to that, it does not fit their narrative).

66 events listed.
Types of incidents includes:
School Arson Incidents
School Bomb Threat
School Hostage Situation
School Knife Attack
School Stabbing (distinction unclear)
School Machete Attack
School Shooting

I counted 102 Dead 77 Wounded (US Only) 1988 - 2011.
Astonishing!

Kids and child-minds on meds; what could possibly go wrong?

This needs to be the focus, not guns.


12 posted on 01/17/2013 3:02:02 PM PST by ri4dc (Cut your cable. You'll need the extra dough later on.)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is the only guy I have even a remote interest in voting for President in 2016.


13 posted on 01/17/2013 3:09:26 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: jersey117

AMEN to Rand Paul....what bambaboy did yesterday was child abuse.....


14 posted on 01/17/2013 3:18:15 PM PST by HarleyLady27 (Get the USA out of the UN then get the UN out of the USA; send bamaboy back to Kenya ASAP!!!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

The 23 point Fatwa issued by Obama are called Executive Actions because there is not a single Executive Order among them. Most of it is all power and light and no action, Obama doesn’t want to be caught with his name attached to something that backfires. The Democrats in the Senate, especially the Red State Dems who are up for reelection, don’t want it stuck to their fingers either.

This stuff won’t be enacted into law. The danger is in the stuff that Obama can do administratively like what Lisa Jackson has done at EPA - that could be significant and it can be done in the dark of night.


15 posted on 01/17/2013 3:20:50 PM PST by centurion316
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To: kabar

I don’t know. What did he say when you asked him that?


16 posted on 01/17/2013 3:31:26 PM PST by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: GBA
If he runs for POTUS one of these days, FReepers will call his supporters "Paulbots" and otherwise ridicule him as insane, just like they did his father.

From where did his core values come? RON PAUL - the daddyrabbit. I like and appreciate them both.

17 posted on 01/17/2013 3:32:15 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: Sirius Lee
Well, for me personally, my Constitutional right to keep and bear arms is a more pressing matter than the inconvenience of illegals running around washing dishes and blowing leaves for sub minimum wage pay.

Inconvenience??? Illegal aliens cost at least $113 billion a year. Since 9/11, over 50,000 Americans have lost their lives to illegal aliens who have committed millions of crimes including murder, rape, armed robbery, etc. They make up one third of the inmates in federal prisons.

I won't lose sleep over the latter if he's focusing on the former.

He should be focusing on both. Obama deserves to be impeached for his illegal, backdoor amnesty. Their is currently a lawsuit by border patrol agents accusing the President of not allowing them to enforce the laws of the United States, something they and the President swore under oath to do.

18 posted on 01/17/2013 3:36:06 PM PST by kabar
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To: SeekAndFind
He does not seem to be as crazy as his dad when it comes to foreign policy.

Yes, I've noticed the same thing. So far, he seems to be more of a common sense Constitutionalist than his father.

I thank Kentucky for sending him to Congress, now more than ever.

19 posted on 01/17/2013 3:38:50 PM PST by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: GBA
Spoke with his chief of staff. Paul wants to have a path to citizenship for illegal aliens. He has gone over to the dark side on illegal immigration.

"In an interview with POLITICO, Paul said he’ll return to Congress this week pushing measures long avoided by his party. He wants to work with liberal Democratic Sen. Patrick Leahy and Republicans to eliminate mandatory minimum sentences for pot possession. He wants to carve a compromise immigration plan with an “eventual path” to citizenship for illegal immigrants, a proposal he believes could be palatable to conservatives. And he believes his ideas — along with pushing for less U.S. military intervention in conflicts overseas — could help the GOP broaden its tent and appeal to crucial voting blocs that handed Democrats big wins in the West Coast, the Northeast and along the Great Lakes.

20 posted on 01/17/2013 3:47:34 PM PST by kabar
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To: AuntB

Sheesh, a long list of people on antidepressants.

Let’s ban depression.


21 posted on 01/17/2013 3:48:16 PM PST by 353FMG ( I refuse to specify whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: elkfersupper

Actually Ron Paul’s foreign policy stance makes more sense everyday: fix the problems at home first.
The atheistic communism at home is far more dangerous than the atheistic communism in Asia.


22 posted on 01/17/2013 3:53:09 PM PST by SisterK (not my president)
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To: kabar
He wants to carve a compromise immigration plan with an “eventual path” to citizenship for illegal immigrants, a proposal he believes could be palatable to conservatives.

Thanks for the heads up. This is potentially disturbing, depending upon the compromises.

If they start by locking and enforcing our borders with no compromise whatsoever, I'd be willing to hear the rest. Otherwise, no sale.

23 posted on 01/17/2013 4:05:25 PM PST by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: kabar

>Obama deserves to be impeached for his illegal, backdoor amnesty.<

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There is no one with enough brass among the congresscretins who dares to investigate something simple like Obama’s eligibility, much less to initiate impeachment proceedings.


24 posted on 01/17/2013 4:09:28 PM PST by 353FMG ( I refuse to specify whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: SisterK

Sadly enough the “The atheistic communism at home” is protected by the First Amendment and the ACLU will see to it that it will thrive.


25 posted on 01/17/2013 4:16:22 PM PST by 353FMG ( I refuse to specify whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: elkfersupper
I like Rand more than I liked his dad, but I appreciated his dad's generally Constitutional first point of view, which I think had a lot to do with why Ron Paul got so much support from college age voters.

To my thinking, Rand takes a more common sense approach to foreign policy than his dad did, but both make more sense than what we are doing now.

The comments Rand Paul recently made in Israel are more in line with what I'd like to see for our foreign policy and maybe a bit closer to what George Washington had in mind.

26 posted on 01/17/2013 4:28:51 PM PST by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: GBA

So, you are saying that Rand and Ron Paul have heated disagreements over foreign policy at family gatherings?


27 posted on 01/17/2013 4:36:06 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: SeekAndFind

The text of each bill should be posted here, word for word, and every vote.


28 posted on 01/17/2013 4:39:19 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: elkfersupper
Disagreements? Yes.

Heated disagreements over our foreign policy? I have no knowledge. It's possible, but I just don't know.

I think that issue had something to do with why his father's supporters didn't care much for him, in addition to his not supporting his father's candidacy during the primary.

29 posted on 01/17/2013 4:49:02 PM PST by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: AuntB
It outlines most of the ‘mass’ killings/violent attacks and the LEGAL drugs each of the perps was on or withdrawing from at the time.

So not only are liberals "freeing" nutcases to roam the streets drugged with virtually worthless "happy pills" with and definitely destructive side effects, virtually every one of these cases occurred in a "gun-free zone"!

So we conservatives are all supposed to sit down and shut up while they implement their "solutions" (designed to get us killed because their pet criminals are not going to pay any heed to said "solutions," and employing hordes of Democrat bureaucrats to feed off the crimes) because those disasters were supposedly our fault, because we believe in people exercising their right to armed self-defense... except that the crimes occurred where people were NOT permitted to defend themselves.

So here we are, rubbing our hands and hoping that our "leaders" don't sell out too much. Yet even though liberals manufactured these "crises," not a one of our supposed "leaders" even attempts to hold them accountable for setting up the whole thing.

Have I got that about right?

30 posted on 01/17/2013 5:11:55 PM PST by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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To: GBA

Agreed. Rand has the best aspects his father had without the psycho baggage his dad seemed to have.


31 posted on 01/17/2013 8:42:42 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: kabar
over 50,000 Americans have lost their lives to illegal aliens who have committed millions of crimes including murder, rape, armed robbery, etc.

Well then being able to protect ourselves with our Constitutionally protected arms is a more pressing matter then, isn't it?

32 posted on 01/18/2013 6:38:07 AM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: Sirius Lee
Why should one be more pressing than the other? Right now, no one is having their guns taken away. There are 250 million guns in circulation. Obama will never be able to pass the assault weapons ban in Congress. Harry Reid doesn't even want to put it up for a vote in the Senate until it is passed in the House. And it will never get thru the House.

This is all a distraction from our real problems, including illegal immigration. It is easy to demonstrate a spine on the gun issue because it is a winner. The Reps are being stampeded on amnesty in the false hope that they will somehow get more of the Hispanic and immigrant vote. They will not and will end up legalizing more Dem voters.

I am a strong believer in the 2nd Amendment and an NRA member, but I am not as concerned about Obama's charade on gun control as I am about our dire fiscal condition and the lack of the Reps desire to confront the Dems on it. The latest example is the passage of the pork-laden Sandy bill of about $60 billion, which is approximates the same amount of revenue raised by the taxing the rich hike to avoid the fiscal cliff.

Obama is employing a Cloward-Piven strategy of manufacturing all of these crises to distract from what he is really doing to transform this country, e.g., the implementation of another huge entitlement program--Obamacare. He has the Reps running around trying to stamp out multiple small fires while he employs a grand strategy to destroy this country. Immigration, legal and illegal, has changed the demographics of this country, which will make the Dems the permanent majority party. Obama, a failed President, was reelected, which demonstrates we have reached a tipping point in this country politically.

33 posted on 01/18/2013 7:39:56 AM PST by kabar
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To: Carry_Okie; All

More good info here:

http://americangunfacts.com/

How are guns being
used by citizens
in America each year?

Example: 200,000
Times a year women use a gun to defend against SEXUAL ABUSE4


34 posted on 01/18/2013 8:25:49 AM PST by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: AuntB
200,000 Times a year women use a gun to defend against SEXUAL ABUSE

Tsk, tsk. You have no idea how cruel that is. Think of all the police officers, doctors, nurses, rape crisis counselors, lawyers, judges, clerks, bailiffs, prison guards, parole officers, job-placement counselors, psychologists, and welfare case workers those women deprived of a job...

Have you no compassion?

35 posted on 01/18/2013 8:42:03 AM PST by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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