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Additions to be made to gun laws for law enforcement
abc local, New York News ^ | 1/17/13 | Jim Hoffer

Posted on 01/17/2013 2:55:11 PM PST by Nachum

NEW YORK (WABC) -- It appears someone forgot to exempt police officers from the ban of ammunition clips with more than 7 bullets in New York State's new gun control law.

It's a big oversight that apparently happened in the haste by the Cuomo Administration to get a tough package of gun-control measures signed into law.

On Tuesday, Governor Andrew Cuomo signed the sweeping gun measure, the nation's toughest. It includes a ban on the possession of high-capacity magazines.

(Excerpt) Read more at abclocal.go.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: additions; banglist; enforcement; gun; guncontrol; law; nyguncontrol; nygunlaw; secondamendment
The law of unintended stupid politicians
1 posted on 01/17/2013 2:55:18 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum

A completely natural omission for a crew long accustomed to the idea that ONLY little people need to obey the law.

This glaringly points to their values —which shows WHY we need the really “scary” guns in particular.


2 posted on 01/17/2013 2:57:28 PM PST by gaijin
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3 posted on 01/17/2013 2:57:28 PM PST by Nachum (Back on the Google blacklist- www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum
how bout their private off duty guns???
4 posted on 01/17/2013 2:59:51 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Nachum

Are there any semi automatics that have clips that are only for 7 bullets? My XD .45acp holds 13 in a clip.


5 posted on 01/17/2013 3:00:09 PM PST by Sybeck1
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To: Nachum

“State Senator Eric Adams, a former NYPD Captain, told us he’s going to push for an amendment next week to exempt police officers from the high-capacity magazine ban. In his words, “You can’t give more ammo to the criminals”

So this moron just admits criminals won’t obey this law.


6 posted on 01/17/2013 3:02:45 PM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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My state sucks ping


7 posted on 01/17/2013 3:05:27 PM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: Sybeck1

1911 has a 7 round magazine, and the officers model holds 6.


8 posted on 01/17/2013 3:06:35 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Nachum

And the dumbass lawmakers still won’t recognize the idiocy of knee jerk reactions.

Its why our founders set up a form of government that works at a snail’s pace.


9 posted on 01/17/2013 3:06:55 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Sybeck1

I think my stepdad’s old 1911 had a 7 round clip for 45acp if I’m not mistaken.


10 posted on 01/17/2013 3:07:59 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Nachum

Isn’t the “law enforcement exemption” boilerplate?


11 posted on 01/17/2013 3:08:05 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (I think, therefore I am what I yam, and that's all I yam - Rene "Popeye" Descartes)
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To: gaijin

Why do the police need more than 7 rounds? 7 is enough for the common man & the police are supposed to be better trained than us.


12 posted on 01/17/2013 3:09:10 PM PST by jimbobfoster
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To: Nachum
So now you can tell a NY cop to "Go arrested themselves"?
13 posted on 01/17/2013 3:09:16 PM PST by tophat9000 (American is Barack Oaken)
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To: Nachum

NY state should be thrown out of the union for this. Good riddance to that hellhole.


14 posted on 01/17/2013 3:10:09 PM PST by Monty22002
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To: headstamp 2
-- So this moron just admits criminals won't obey this law. --

If you think about it, what he's saying is you can't give more rounds to the law abiding. The criminals aren't going to respect the magazine size limit, so his argument is complete nonsense.

He wants to criminalize anybody who carries more rounds than the police do, regardless of the intention of the person who "can outgun" the police. Very common "us vs. them" attitude.

15 posted on 01/17/2013 3:10:26 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Nachum

Why would cops be exempt? Their lives are no more precious than anybody else’s.


16 posted on 01/17/2013 3:11:10 PM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: Nachum
Good.

That "spray and pray" crowd may now have to get in some range time.

17 posted on 01/17/2013 3:11:52 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: Nachum

According to that Democrat pig Jarrold Nadler, “citizens” don’t need more than two or four rounds.

If true, then the “professionals” at the NYPD, etc., should need even less. Why exempt them from the requirement?

Oh yeah, that’s right. Most of ‘em can’t hit the broad side of a barn.


18 posted on 01/17/2013 3:11:52 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Bathhouse Barry wants YOU to bend over for another four years)
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To: Sybeck1
Are there any semi automatics that have clips that are only for 7 bullets?

Ruger LCP: 6+1

"Only a .380", but I would hate to find myself down range nonetheless.

19 posted on 01/17/2013 3:13:21 PM PST by tpmintx (Gun free zones are hunting preserves for unarmed people.)
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To: Cboldt

Just another reason to not spend another minute in that hellhole.


20 posted on 01/17/2013 3:13:31 PM PST by tgusa (gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger .......)
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To: Sybeck1

My Kahr CW45 holds six, but they make 7-round mags for it, too.
21 posted on 01/17/2013 3:20:40 PM PST by RandallFlagg
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To: tpmintx

throw a $50 laser on that thing and youo’d never have to pull the trigger.

that little red dot on their chest or nose can be quite a deterrent too, i’d imagine


22 posted on 01/17/2013 3:21:07 PM PST by digger48
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To: Nachum

If seven shots is good enough for us peons, it’s good enough for the government’s enforcers.


23 posted on 01/17/2013 3:29:00 PM PST by ZirconEncrustedTweezers ("I'm not anti-anything, I just wanna be free." - Mike Muir)
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To: jimbobfoster

“Why do the police need more than 7 rounds? 7 is enough for the common man & the police are supposed to be better trained than us.”

So the dog shooters are now wee weeing their pants at only having 7 rnd mags. How does it feel to be treated like the peons? At least you have bullet proof vests to protect your fat-azzes.


24 posted on 01/17/2013 3:40:08 PM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: Nachum
The law of unintended stupid politicians

This is a fine example of the Dunning-Kruger Effect

(Def.: Stupid people are too stupid to realize they're stupid)


25 posted on 01/17/2013 3:40:54 PM PST by Iron Munro (I Miss America, don't you?)
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To: ZirconEncrustedTweezers

The Second Amendment recognized the right to carry the same arms as the common soldier of the day;therefore body armor,laser and infrared,kevlar helmets ,bayonets,30 round clips, selective fire, and all weapons designed to be carried and used by one person are covered under the Constitution.

And as always, misuse of any weapon is cause for trial and punishment if convicted.


26 posted on 01/17/2013 3:45:02 PM PST by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: Sybeck1
Are there any semi automatics that have clips that are only for 7 bullets?

That sucks for any Garand owners. It's one of the few rifles that actually uses "clips". And I haven't tried to load a clip with 7 rounds into mine. I would think it to be rather difficult...

27 posted on 01/17/2013 3:45:29 PM PST by Antoninus II
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To: Sybeck1

I read that you’re supposed to just put 7 in.

No kidding.

And, I assume in the very near future, there will be magazines with a 6 round tall ‘dummy block’ filling the bottom, availav=ble for sale as ‘New York’ legal.


28 posted on 01/17/2013 3:53:27 PM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: headstamp 2

And he answers the question ‘why do you neeeed a large capacity magazine’.

It might be because them there criminals use them.


29 posted on 01/17/2013 3:55:55 PM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: Nachum
Will this make the M1 Garand rifle illegal?

An 8 round clip is standard for the Garand.
If the clip itself does not have the full 8 rounds, the rounds are loose in the clip and fall out, making it impossible to load.


30 posted on 01/17/2013 3:59:03 PM PST by Iron Munro (I Miss America, don't you?)
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To: Nachum

If a law abiding citizen can only have 7 rounds the cops shouldn’t be allowed to have 8.


31 posted on 01/17/2013 4:02:09 PM PST by Terry Mross (People who hate me read my posts and get angry. Yet they can't look away. hee hee)
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To: Sybeck1

My XD has a magazine. I’ve never seen a clip fed model.


32 posted on 01/17/2013 4:03:05 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Iron Munro

1 rdn at the time.


33 posted on 01/17/2013 4:08:38 PM PST by TweetEBird007
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To: digger48
throw a $50 laser on that thing and you’d never have to pull the trigger.

Like this?

However, my training tells me that, if it needs to come out of my pocket, the little red dot is only for aiming. The person upon whom it was drawn would need to react very quickly in order to avoid getting shot.

34 posted on 01/17/2013 4:16:27 PM PST by tpmintx (Gun free zones are hunting preserves for unarmed people.)
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To: TweetEBird007
1 rdn at the time.

Time out please, Mr. Evil Doer.

I have to reload my M1 and I can only do 1 round at a time.


35 posted on 01/17/2013 4:33:58 PM PST by Iron Munro (I Miss America, don't you?)
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To: Sybeck1
Are there any semi automatics that have clips that are only for 7 bullets? My XD .45acp holds 13 in a clip.

Standard 1911 magazines are 7 round, though my Shooting Stars are all 8 round. I wonder if this will outlaw the 8 or 9 shot .22LR revolvers too?

Mark

36 posted on 01/17/2013 4:34:24 PM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Antoninus II
That sucks for any Garand owners. It's one of the few rifles that actually uses "clips". And I haven't tried to load a clip with 7 rounds into mine. I would think it to be rather difficult...

I've seen modified Garand clips that only accept 3 or 5 rounds, in order to be legal for deer hunting in many states.

Mark

37 posted on 01/17/2013 4:40:47 PM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

“At least you have bullet proof vests to protect your fat-azzes.”

Yeah, because you never know if that dog in the backyard might be packing.


38 posted on 01/17/2013 4:41:25 PM PST by ZirconEncrustedTweezers ("I'm not anti-anything, I just wanna be free." - Mike Muir)
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To: Nachum

I say no compromise on the 2nd Amendment but if I may play Devil’s Advocate, the law should apply to all, us, cops, the military, secret service, etc.


39 posted on 01/17/2013 6:04:21 PM PST by Nowhere Man (Whitey, I miss you so much. Take care, pretty girl. (4-15-2001 - 10-12-2012))
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To: MarkL

That doesn’t make it right!! I will surrender nothing!


40 posted on 01/17/2013 6:48:25 PM PST by Antoninus II
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To: Antoninus II
That doesn’t make it right!! I will surrender nothing!

Most states limit magazine capacity while hunting... For instance, my Benelli Super-90 defender has an extended magazine tube to hold 7 rounds, but if I wanted to take the gun hunting, I'd have to install the (removable) 3 shot "plug," which limits the shotgun to 2+1 rounds. I also have a 5 round M-14 magazine which has a magazine block in it.

In most states, if you get busted by DNR with excessive capacity magazines while hunting, you'll go to jail, lose whatever game you've taken, and lose your gun.

But that's strictly while actually hunting in the field.

Mark

41 posted on 01/18/2013 12:01:39 AM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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