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Philadelphia Mayor Michael Nutter: NRA has no ‘human decency’
politico.com ^ | January 16, 2013 | KEVIN ROBILLARD

Posted on 01/17/2013 8:47:23 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe

Philadelphia Mayor Michael Nutter ripped the National Rifle Association for using President Barack Obama’s two daughters in an ad, declaring it “beyond the bounds of human decency” at a congressional hearing Wednesday.

“As a father, I find it reprehensible, disgusting and beyond the bounds of human decency that the NRA would place an ad on television attacking President Obama’s daughters,” Nutter said to applause from the dais at a meeting of the Democratic Steering and Policy Committee, adding: “The NRA has struck a new low and that should be removed immediately.”

The NRA released an ad Tuesday night calling the president an “elitist hypocrite” for opposing the NRA’s plan to put armed staff in schools while his own daughters are protected by the Secret Service. The White House condemned the ad earlier Wednesday.

Nutter, the president of theU.S. Conference of Mayors, gave the panel of roughly 30 Democrats policy recommendations they largely wanted to hear, endorsing a ban on assault weapons, stronger penalties for straw purchases and the mandatory background checks for private gun sales.

Newtown, Conn. superintendent Janet Robinson also drew applause from the dais after she read the letter a fourth grader named Ava from the beleaguered suburb wrote to House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi asking for a ban on semi-automatic weapons and large capacity magazines.

“In Newtown’s municipal center, there are hundreds of thousands of cards and pictures from children and adults from all over America,” Robinson said, reading the letter and holding up a poster with images of the town center. “It’s so sad. I think people against changing the gun laws should walk through the long hallway and read one card out of every box and realize how many people want this change.”

While Robinson’s original testimony didn’t include any policy recommendations, she voiced opposition to arming teachers when asked by members.

“I have great respect for guns,” Robinson said. “My dad used to take to an old ranch in New Mexico and teach me how to shoot. I have great respect for them. … Teachers are teachers. And if you think about elementary teachers, elementary teachers just love kids. They’re not gonna go packing and sit on the floor on the rug and read to the kids with a gun at their hip.”

“There was some very insensitive individual, who will go unnamed, but immediately after this — and I did not watch TV after this, made some complaint that if [Sandy Hook Elementary School Principal Dawn Hochsprung] had just had a weapon in her desk, she could’ve taken care of it,” Robinson continued. “Number one: She wasn’t at her desk, and no good principal is. So that means she would have to be carrying it around. And what if she’s like [former New York Giants receiver Plaxico Burress] and shot herself in the foot? How many kids could get injured with inexperienced elementary school teachers walking around with guns? It’s not even logical.”

Robinson’s unnamed individual is likely Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas) who said in December in reference to Hochsprung, “I wish to God she had had an M4 in her office locked up and so when she heard gunshots … she takes his head off before he can hurt those kids.”

Robinson also said she supported a ban on high-capacity ammunition magazines.

“He shot every one of these six-year olds three to 11 times,” Robinson said, her voice dropping to a whisper. “That wasn’t necessary. … Maybe Dawn and the people who came out could’ve stopped him. They didn’t have a chance with a semi-automatic weapon. And those six-year-old bodies didn’t have a chance.”

Nutter wasn’t the only witness at the hearing to criticize the NRA.

“Please do not be swayed by the line that the only way to combat a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun,” said Emily Nottingham, the mother of Gabe Zimmerman, a Gabrielle Giffords staffer who died in the Tucson, Ariz., mass shooting just over two years ago. “In fact, there was a good guy with the gun at the Tucson shooting. But he almost mistakenly shot the citizen hero who had tackled the shooter. I do not want to carry around an assault rifle to go to the grocery store to buy broccoli or take a grandchild to soccer practice.”

Chaska, Minn. Police Chief Scott Knight also testified at the hearing.


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1 posted on 01/17/2013 8:47:26 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I am the NRA and I say Nutter is a flippin’, anti-American, anti-Bill of Rights moron.


2 posted on 01/17/2013 8:49:33 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (HealthCare IS NOT a right. The RIGHT to keep and bear arms is.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
“As a father, I find it reprehensible, disgusting and beyond the bounds of human decency that the NRA would place an ad on television attacking President Obama’s daughters,”

This just in: The ad didn't attack Obama's daughters at all, it attacked Obama's hypocrisy in seeking protection for them, but not for other children. That isn't an attack against the daughters.

3 posted on 01/17/2013 8:50:18 PM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Must have been on target.


4 posted on 01/17/2013 8:52:12 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Typical liberal crapola....

Use emotional extremism, when you have no facts on your side.

This isn’t about Barack’s daughters, it’s about Barack’s duplicity.


5 posted on 01/17/2013 8:52:23 PM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
The NRA ad is success. It has outed a bunch of hypocrits.

The GOP is still silent. Guess they agree with the gun grabbers

6 posted on 01/17/2013 8:53:28 PM PST by RginTN
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To: Tailgunner Joe
“In fact, there was a good guy with the gun at the Tucson shooting. But he almost mistakenly shot the citizen hero who had tackled the shooter."

But, he didn't. Police do this much more often than armed citizens do.

"I do not want to carry around an assault rifle to go to the grocery store to buy broccoli or take a grandchild to soccer practice.”

Then don't. (Not that anyone is suggesting that you or anyone else does so.) But don't even try to stop other people from carrying. Thanks.

7 posted on 01/17/2013 8:53:59 PM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Hey Michael!

55 Million aborted babies are “beyond human decency”!!!


8 posted on 01/17/2013 8:54:04 PM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
The hyperbole is getting to be over the top. How can anyone reason with someone when the dialog starts there?

-PJ

9 posted on 01/17/2013 8:56:07 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Hey Nutter, when on target it draws a lot of flak from the likes of you.


10 posted on 01/17/2013 8:56:15 PM PST by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Keep running these ads because they are hitting a nerve.


11 posted on 01/17/2013 8:57:13 PM PST by frogjerk (Obama Claus is coming to town!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Typical liberal style of argument. Say something that is so disjointed from logic, that it boggles the opponent in argument.

Nutter wears his undershorts backwards, that's why he doesn't make any sense.

12 posted on 01/17/2013 8:58:21 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Tailgunner Joe

How does one live with a name like “Nutter”?


13 posted on 01/17/2013 8:58:41 PM PST by AlexW
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To: Tailgunner Joe

14 posted on 01/17/2013 8:59:29 PM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

This from the Mayor of the
City of Unmatchable Vote Fraud.

Nutter is such an appropriate name for this clown.


15 posted on 01/17/2013 9:00:26 PM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: Tailgunner Joe; onyx; Josh Painter

When the thousands of them who attacked Governor Sarah Palin’s children apologize, I might take them somewhat seriously.


16 posted on 01/17/2013 9:02:12 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
And Mayor Nutter is a NUT!!!
17 posted on 01/17/2013 9:02:25 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Well since the citizens of Philadelphia are such fine upstanding law abiding individuals I guess I can see how he can say this.


18 posted on 01/17/2013 9:02:43 PM PST by I Drive Too Fast
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To: Tailgunner Joe

BTW, he is a “nutter.” ‘nuff said.


19 posted on 01/17/2013 9:04:24 PM PST by Nowhere Man (Whitey, I miss you so much. Take care, pretty girl. (4-15-2001 - 10-12-2012))
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To: Political Junkie Too
How can anyone reason with someone when the dialog starts there?

I thought the same thing. You really can't argue with this mentality.

20 posted on 01/17/2013 9:04:24 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (Psalm 83)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
They’re not gonna go packing and sit on the floor on the rug and read to the kids with a gun at their hip.”

I have. And my grandkids didn't blink an eye about the firearm. I don't even think they noticed it.

My favorite phrase is "It's always time for school for midshipmen". My kids know that phrase, my grandkids know what that means. I love teaching youngsters. My kids, young airmen, my grandkids, random kids I meet. You can always talk to them, and find their interests and teach them something that applies.

Whether I am carrying a firearm doesn't change that a bit.

/johnny

21 posted on 01/17/2013 9:05:18 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: coloradan

coloradan ~ :” The ad didn’t attack Obama’s daughters at all, it attacked Obama’s hypocrisy in seeking protection for them, but not for other children. That isn’t an attack against the daughters.”

Lib’s don’t understand hypocrisy ~ they are too busy living it !
You can’t spell it out to them ~ too much kool-aide
There was a reason why the mayors father took him out to New Mexico / Arizona : to appreciate the responsibility of markmanship and gun ownership
Markmanship to know where the round was going to go
Responsibility to know how to harness the power of the firearm
Nowadays , our kids shoot in an online virtual world where they come back alive in 10 -15 seconds ; no harm / no foul !
This virtual world desensitizes personal responsibility to those whom they shoot , and may kill , because they come back alive an willing to fight as soon as they rejuvenate .

The only harm the NRA did was to show that OBama and his kids are ‘elitist’ ~ entitled by their position of prominance to certain protections, not afforded to the common citizen’s children .
Comforts which our kids do not have
That’s all .. no more / no less .
Good job , NRA !!


22 posted on 01/17/2013 9:10:40 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt (Pay attention - the inmates ARE running the asylum!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Obama constantly uses his daughters as political props,,,, so they are fair game. Also, since when has the democrat party respected our point of view?


23 posted on 01/17/2013 9:11:17 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
There is going to be an all out MSM coordinated blitz attack on the NRA

Mark Levin made a good point tonight. They are not just attacking NRA as the enemy...but we the American people. Our rights as this country is based on. It does not matter what race, money status, location or party. We the people need to unit against it. (Paraphrase), Don't let them control the message as a fight with NRA

24 posted on 01/17/2013 9:11:32 PM PST by opentalk
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Sanctimonium from a mayor of a town where 3,405 murders were committed in a ten year span.

http://www.metro.us/philadelphia/local/article/1074010—open-murder-cases-are-open-wounds-for-philly

I don’t know for sure but I’m willing to bet, a semi-automatic rifle is waaaay down the list of weapons used.


25 posted on 01/17/2013 9:11:48 PM PST by MurrietaMadman (Stop with the negative waves, Moriarity.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe; Vince Ferrer
Newtown, Conn. superintendent Janet Robinson also drew applause from the dais after she read the letter a fourth grader named Ava from the beleaguered suburb

NOW who's exploiting the kids??

Like you said Vince, the NRA's ad must've been right on the mark!


26 posted on 01/17/2013 9:11:56 PM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: Tailgunner Joe

But of course when Obama appears on stage with a bunch of 8-10 year olds with letters they’ve written demanding gun control (which they no doubt wrote all by themselves) that’s perfectly appropriate political theatre. Sure. Whatever.


27 posted on 01/17/2013 9:13:14 PM PST by eclecticEel (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness: 7/4/1776 - 3/21/2010)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Awesome!
When an ad causes liberal scumbags like Michael Nutter and Pork Porkie of New Jersey to throw conniption fits, you know it hit the mark.


28 posted on 01/17/2013 9:17:05 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: coloradan

That hardly matters. Human beings are naturally irrational, or moreso than they are rational. Most of us long to be as irrational as possible. And this is one of those cases where we grant license to be so, despite the truth.


29 posted on 01/17/2013 9:26:40 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: Tailgunner Joe

The mayor’s name says it all.


30 posted on 01/17/2013 9:36:45 PM PST by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

What else can you expect from the mayor of a city where Obama received 100% of the vote in some districts?


31 posted on 01/17/2013 9:47:12 PM PST by Retired Chemist
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Most of these shooters are scum. Many will shoot as much victims as possible, if suicide by gunfight was the intent, then the shooters should take on the arriving police in one violent gun battle finale. Instead when they see the police, they simply duck back into a room and shoot themselves. One account Adam shot half of the K class, stayed in the hallway till the officers arrive. One of the officers recanted that Adam quickly ducked back into the K class when he saw them, open fire to kill the remaining kids and shot himself with one round before the police officers can reach the K classroom. Question, would Adam kill himself once he is confronted by someone stopping his advance by shooting back at him?


32 posted on 01/17/2013 9:48:02 PM PST by Fee
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Hey Nutter, advocating a policy (gun control) that can logically be shown to increase violence sounds indecent. The logical conclusion that disarming law abiding citizens while criminals retain access to firearms will lead to increased violence has been born out in virtually every single jurisdiction that has tried it. So why are you advocating it Nutter, are you nuts? Do you like violence? Do you hate people? Or just hate law abiding citizens and wish them ill?

Talk about indecent - how about crassly using the tragedy in Conn. to advance a political/power agenda even though you know it will result in more violence against innocent people. That is sick, disgusting, and criminal.

33 posted on 01/17/2013 9:49:41 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

The ad doesn’t attack the president’s daughters.

It makes a point saying that according to Obama, his daughters are more important than everyone else’s kids because they get armed protection that he denies to other peoples’ children.

Hardly an “attack” on them. If anything it’s an attack on Obama’s blatant hypocrisy.


34 posted on 01/17/2013 10:00:40 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

GOOD point, and that will NEVER happen. They can all GTH.


35 posted on 01/17/2013 10:02:36 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Philadelphia Mayor Michael Nutter: NRA has no ‘human decency’

How many Police Officer have been killed in and around your city this past year Mayor?
You have no room to talk about human decency.


36 posted on 01/17/2013 10:52:45 PM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
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To: SECURE AMERICA

Philly! I glad it’s across the river ten miles away!
Crime ridden hell hole of America. I think they compete with Chicago!
I have been here in NJ for 3 years now and have no desire to even visit that city for any reason!
Even though I love our Nations History and would love to walk the ground our Forefathers walked, or to run the steps Rocky did!
Nutter take your City back from the criminals that posses your streets! Philly is a Third World Country and no passport needed!


37 posted on 01/17/2013 11:19:02 PM PST by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I seem to recall a Philly mayor who ordered bombs dropped on his own citizens. Four kids burnt to death in the target house and a multi block confligration ensued.

As I recall the mayor was black and people that he ordered massacred were black. There was no racial animosity involved.

Now this current mayor may say that he would never order such a thing, but now there’s a precedent should he ever decide to.

A low level politician who has the power to order bombing attacks on a citizenry but then chastises these same citizens for wanting to exercise their God given right to defend themselves, is the epitome of an out of control hypocrisy.

The City of Philadelphia Mayor’s Office, people in their right minds, massacred children long before a madman with a rifle in Connecticut did.


38 posted on 01/17/2013 11:22:50 PM PST by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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To: Stormdog

1985 bombing

In 1981, MOVE relocated to a row house at 6221 Osage Avenue in the Cobbs Creek area of West Philadelphia. On May 13, 1985, after months of complaints by neighbors that MOVE members were broadcasting political messages by bullhorn at all hours and also about the health hazards created from piles of compost, as well as indictments of various MOVE members for crimes including parole violation, contempt of court, illegal possession of firearms, and making terrorist threats[8] The police department attempted to clear the building and arrest the indicted MOVE members, which led to an armed standoff with police.[9] The police lobbed tear gas canisters at the building and the fire department battered on the roof of the house with two water cannons. MOVE members fired at the police, and the police returned fire with semiautomatic weapons.[10] The house was heavily fortified with old telephone poles lining the interior walls and a bunker was built on the roof. A police helicopter then dropped a four-pound bomb made of C-4 plastic explosive and Tovex, a dynamite substitute, onto the roof of the house to clear the bunker so that police would not be injured.

The resulting explosion caused incendiary materials listed in the police indictment, and stored by MOVE in the house, to catch fire, therefore causing the house itself to catch on fire. The resulting fire ignited a massive blaze which eventually destroyed 65 houses nearby.[2][11][12] Eleven people, including John Africa, five other adults and five children, died in the resulting fire.[13] The firefighters were stopped from putting out the fire based on allegations that firefighters were being shot at, a claim that was contested by the lone adult survivor Ramona Africa, who says that the firefighters had earlier battered the house with two deluge pumps when there was no fire.[11] Ramona Africa and one child, Birdie Africa, were the only two survivors. Police shot at those trying to escape the house[14] and acknowledge firing over 10,000 rounds.[15]
Aftermath

Mayor W. Wilson Goode soon appointed an investigative commission called the PSIC or MOVE commission. It issued its report on March 6, 1986. The report denounced the actions of the city government, stating that “Dropping a bomb on an occupied row house was unconscionable.”[16] No one from the city government was charged criminally.


39 posted on 01/17/2013 11:31:51 PM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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40 posted on 01/17/2013 11:40:53 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Some Black guy called into Sean Hannity’s Radio Show the other day.

He said that Obama’s Daughters ARE MORE IMPORTANT than anyone Else's kids because Obama is the President.

You can't fix Stupid, no doubt about it.

41 posted on 01/17/2013 11:45:37 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (I only Fear a Government that doesn't Fear me.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I’m glad to find out that Nutter’s children don’t need armed guards because the city is so safe for children.

The last time it was somewhat safe was when Rizzo was Chief of Police and then Mayor. Criminals feared him and his men as did the invading Turks fear Vlad the Impaler.

Of for the good old days when our kids were safe in school, on the streets and at home.


42 posted on 01/18/2013 1:15:16 AM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Tailgunner Joe

No decency? This from an urban culture that has spawned hordes of soulless, feral, murderous children that kill for shoes and think “father” is only a verb? Give me a break.


43 posted on 01/18/2013 1:29:01 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

There is not One person in Philadelphia I would walk across the street to aid if they were hit by a bus.


44 posted on 01/18/2013 3:03:48 AM PST by BigCinBigD (...Was that okay?)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Way to go NRA,you hit the Nerve! Keep up the Good work!
Folks the NRA has shown the way,We already knew that demonizing your opponent is reserved just for the Democrat Facists! Ha! They cant take it folks,their heads will explode,the possibilities here are legion,if we only had leaders with balls. The Hypocrisy of these people is legendary,take off the Gloves.


45 posted on 01/18/2013 3:30:56 AM PST by ballplayer
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To: Tailgunner Joe
“I have great respect for guns,” Robinson said. “My dad used to take to an old ranch in New Mexico and teach me how to shoot. I have great respect for them.

The more I hear the above said in one form or another, the more it sounds like "I'm not racist. I have a black friend."

46 posted on 01/18/2013 3:49:33 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Tailgunner Joe

mister mayor... you have no soul... or brain for that fact.

LLS


47 posted on 01/18/2013 4:49:59 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
for using President Barack Obama’s two daughters in an ad

Oh...but it's OK for Zero to use children as political props in his despotic dictatorial signing of 23 executive anti-gun orders? effin hypocrit.

48 posted on 01/18/2013 4:54:50 AM PST by ThomasMore (Islam is the Whore of Babylon!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Nutter is just implementing Alinsky's Rules for Radicals #12:

RULE #12: “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions.

We should respond with RULE #5: "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon."

Michael Nutter is named Nutter because he is a nutter.

49 posted on 01/18/2013 6:03:31 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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To: Conserev1

This is almost funny... Mayor Mack Daddy

http://www.nj.com/mercer/index.ssf/2013/01/trenton_mayor_tony_mack_in_was.html

Maybe you should have headed north or west or north by northwest...

Pardon the wee bit of French

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ig_7Es1h0eQ


50 posted on 01/18/2013 10:12:35 AM PST by MurrietaMadman
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